TOK Reasoning by https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning Argument vs. Fight en-us 2018-04-19 13:57:28 UTC 2024-12-15 08:17:17 UTC hello@padlet.com DiGiorno vs Papa John's https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253433736 2018-04-19 14:05:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253433736 Teachers' march 2018 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253434994 Both sides during the teachers' march were driven more by emotion than reason, which caused the argument to evolve into a fight.

Teachers' Claim:
The wages for teachers should be raised.
Evidence
  •  According to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average annual salary for a teacher is approximately $55,000 per year. This means that half of all teachers in the country make more than this amount, and half make less. 
  •  “If I didn’t have a second job, I’d be on food stamps,” said third-grade educator Rae Lovelace, who spoke to the Associated Press. 

Other Claims:
Teachers only work for half a year and make more than minimum wage, that is enough.
Evidence
  •  Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin did sign legislation last week — granting teachers pay raises of more than $6,000, or roughly 15 to 18 percent 
  • On average teachers make $55,000 per year, that is around $25 per hour.

]]> 2018-04-19 14:07:31 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253434994 Taylor Swift vs. Kimye https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253435340 2018-04-19 14:08:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253435340 Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson vs. Vin Diesel https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253435668 2018-04-19 14:08:44 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253435668 Trump vs "Fake News" r_leah_casey https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253437611 This was most definitely a fight between Donald Trump and CNN's Jim Acosta. Trump called Accosta fake news when in an interview during the 2016 presidential elections. This is a fight because it was an exchange of name calling and degradation from both people. Neither person validated the arguments of the other, leading to tension and further quarreling. ]]> 2018-04-19 14:12:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253437611 Fight https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253438185 The overall conflict was just escalated via indirect insults in Twitter bio's and non-tagged tweets, none of which indicates an effort to facilitate an open discussion to resolve the issue between the pizza companies. For this reason, the Twitter feud occurring is not an argument, and rather a fight.]]> 2018-04-19 14:13:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253438185 GMO's good or nah https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253438382 2018-04-19 14:13:40 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253438382 Can dead memes still be funny? https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253438522 2018-04-19 14:13:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253438522 Fight (Anti Dead Memes) https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253438771 This person is making fun of dead memes and acknowledging that they only apply to a small portion of the population whom he is also making fun of.]]> 2018-04-19 14:14:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253438771 Fight or Argument? https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253439092 2018-04-19 14:14:56 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253439092 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253439363 2018-04-19 14:15:26 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253439363 1st Evidence https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253439713 DiGiorno and Papa John's are using their Twitter bio's to take shots at one another, rather than having a civil, open conversation to work out their conflict.]]> 2018-04-19 14:16:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253439713 Debating the Success of The Emoji Movie ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253440054
Fight or Argument?]]> 2018-04-19 14:16:43 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253440054 2nd Evidence https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253440092 DiGiorno and Papa John's twitter accounts were using the social media site to try to subtly insult one another, but neither twitter account actually tagged the other in tweets that were obviously directed at the other company. This lack of directness indicates a fight rather than an open argument aimed at resolving the issues.]]> 2018-04-19 14:16:47 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253440092 Fight or Argument? https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253440140 2018-04-19 14:16:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253440140 Here's some background info: https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253440327 The VMA's of September 13, 2009. Taylor Swift beat out Beyonce for the best female music video of the year. Kanye had an issue with this, so he decided to go up on stage, take the mic, and announced that Beyonce deserved to win. He apologized, but he released the song "Famous" a few years later and everything changed.

]]> 2018-04-19 14:17:18 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253440327 Fight: https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253441266 It was an immature battle of words, using words meant to bring the other person down instead of work out the problem]]> 2018-04-19 14:18:57 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253441266 Argument https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253441384 The affirmative position (claiming that the Emoji Movie was a success) utilizes statistical evidence to support its contentions. Similarly, the negative position uses reason in the form of voting polls to justify why it was a failure]]> 2018-04-19 14:19:09 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253441384 Third Presidential Debate 2016 jupie4444 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253441843 Fight or Argument?]]> 2018-04-19 14:19:58 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253441843 Counter Claim: jupie4444 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253442246 While there were plenty of emotionally backed comments and interruptions, most of the evidence brought forth was formatted for a debate. Before most of the arguments got out of hand (evolving into fights) the host, Chris Wallace, had changed the subject or reigned in the conversation. ]]> 2018-04-19 14:20:42 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253442246 Argument or Fight? https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253442699 2018-04-19 14:21:32 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253442699 People https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253442893 People don't trust them cause they don't know about them]]> 2018-04-19 14:21:52 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253442893 McGregor vs. Mayweather https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253442968 2018-04-19 14:22:01 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253442968 Website https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253443076 https://www.denverpost.com/2018/04/16/colorado-teacher-walkout-rally/]]> 2018-04-19 14:22:13 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253443076 Fight or Argument? https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253443353 2018-04-19 14:22:43 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253443353 Evidence #1: The Rock's Instagram post https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253443415  "Some [male co-stars] conduct themselves as stand up men and true professionals, while others don't. The ones that don't are too chicken [expletive] to do anything about it anyway. Candy [expletive]. When you watch this movie next April and it seems like I'm not acting in some of these scenes and my blood is legit boiling -- you're right." 
He is referring to Vin Diesel in this Instagram caption]]> 2018-04-19 14:22:51 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253443415 Evidence #1 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253444305 It is an argument because the debate (both the affirmative and negative sides) use factual evidence (movie rating statistics) rather than anecdotal evidence (which cultivates subjectivity)]]> 2018-04-19 14:24:32 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253444305 Scientists https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253444972 They make everything better]]> 2018-04-19 14:25:36 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253444972 Analysis of this evidence: https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253446081 Dwayne is using very emotional language here, using expletives to call out Vin Diesel for his behavior in the workplace. You can tell that Dwayne is enraged because his "blood is legit boiling," which means that in this case he's not willing to have a civilized argument.]]> 2018-04-19 14:27:27 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253446081 Fight https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253446687 This was a fight rather than an argument because while teachers were making their point, those at the state house refused to listen to them. Instead of going inside and discussing the teachers formed a large group outside and began to yell chants.]]> 2018-04-19 14:28:27 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253446687 Website jupie4444 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253447528 https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/full-transcript-third-2016-presidential-debate-230063]]> 2018-04-19 14:29:58 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253447528 Argument or fight? https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253447895 Argument, people are looking at this from a logical point of view. It is also a fight because some people are making decisions based on their fear of GMO's.]]> 2018-04-19 14:30:32 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253447895 Evidence #1 for Counter Claim: Chris Wallace calming down the arguments jupie4444 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448189 "Hold on, folks. Because this is going to end up getting out of control. Let's try to keep it quiet. For the candidates and for the American people."

]]> 2018-04-19 14:31:03 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448189 Fight https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448487 All of the interviews prior to the fight were highly intense. It was a battle of words trying to bring the other down in an immature way. ]]> 2018-04-19 14:31:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448487 Counterclaim: It was an argument https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448606 Although the feud seemed heated, it was resolved peacefully.  Dwayne and Vin remained like bros.
Evidence: “I think some things may be blown out of proportion. I don't think that was his intention. I know he appreciates how much I work this franchise. In my house, he’s Uncle Dwayne. . . . It’s not always easy being an alpha. And it’s two alphas. Being an alpha is sometimes a pain in the (butt).”
-Vin Diesel, after the whole feud thing happened]]> 2018-04-19 14:31:38 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448606 Counterclaim: Fight https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448892 Both the affirmative and negative positions scrutinize the success of the film through a wide variety of memes]]> 2018-04-19 14:32:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448892 It doesn't stop r_leah_casey https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448999 Throughout the presidential elections, and then after Trump won, the president has continued to call news that he does not like or agree with the now common term: "fake news". Instead of crying wolf like the old nursery rhyme, Trump calls fake news at reports true and false alike. He often spreads false information while pointing fingers of fake news at reporters and their stories that are in fact true. Some examples are:
Jan. 18 - Job Creation
Jan. 21- On his feud with the U.S. intelligence community
Feb. 3: On his phone call with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull of Australia
Feb. 24: On anonymous sources
March 7: On reports of Trump administration infighting
And more. ]]> 2018-04-19 14:32:18 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253448999 Evidence #1 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253449408 Meme supporting the movie]]> 2018-04-19 14:33:06 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253449408 Kanye's Argument https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253449426 Claim:  "3rd thing I called Taylor and had a hour long convo with her about the line and she thought it was funny and gave her blessings,"

Gets some backup:  "She totally approved thatShe totally knew that that was coming out. She wanted to all of a sudden act like she didn't. I swear, my husband gets so much s--- for things [when] he really was doing proper protocol and even called to get it approved." - Kim K.

Kanye brings out his evidence: Kim leaked videos of Kanye and Taylor's conversation, which backs up his statement that he asked for Taylor's permission, but there was nothing in the video about the "I made that b**** famous" line.

Kimye supporters spam Taylor's insta with snake emojis.

Kimye has not responded to Taylor's obvious shade in the Reputation album. ]]> 2018-04-19 14:33:07 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253449426 Fight (Pro dead memes) https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253449568 This person supports a comeback for dead memes and talks about the toxicity of new memes]]> 2018-04-19 14:33:13 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253449568 Taylor's Arguement https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253449934 Claim:  "She declined and cautioned him about releasing a song with such a strong misogynistic message."Taylor was never made aware of the actual lyric, 'I made that b**** famous." -T's Manager

Threw a lil' shade @ Kanye:  "As the first woman to win album of the year at the Grammys twice, I want to say to all the young women out there: There are going to be people along the way who will try to undercut your success or take credit for your accomplishments or your fame," said a teary-eyed Swift. "But if you just focus on the work and you don't let those people sidetrack you, some day when you get where you're going, you'll look around and you will know that it was you and the people who love you who put you there and that will be the greatest feeling in the world."

Countered Kim's Claim: "Taylor does not hold anything against Kim Kardashian as she recognizes the pressure Kim must be under and that she is only repeating what she has been told by Kanye West,"

Counter argues Kanye's Evidence: Argues that the leaked clips were highly edited and "Where in the video of Kanye telling me he was going to call me 'that bitch' in his song? It doesn't exist because it never happened. You don't get to control someone's emotional response to being called 'that bitch' in front of the entire world," .

 Counterargument: Taylor embraces the snakeness of herself and uses it in her "Look What You Made Me Do" music video.

Taylor throws some final shade in her new songs:
"It was so nice being friends again There I was, giving you a second chance But then you stabbed me in the back while shaking my hand And therein lies the issue Friends don't try to trick you Get you on the phone and mind-twist you" This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
"I never trust a narcissist, but they love me. So I play them like a violin and make it look oh so easy" I Did Something Bad

]]> 2018-04-19 14:33:48 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253449934 Evidence #2 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253451952 Meme claiming that the movie was a failure ]]> 2018-04-19 14:37:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253451952 Website https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253452107 https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/04/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-vin-diesel-fast-and-furious-feud-timeline]]> 2018-04-19 14:37:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253452107 Fight https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253453181 Each side enjoys making fun of the other through their memes, featuring insults, name calling, and general teasing.]]> 2018-04-19 14:39:15 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253453181 Evidence https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253454772 In this press conference Mayweather and McGregor were constantly getting in each others face shouting hurtful words at each other.]]> 2018-04-19 14:41:53 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253454772 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253455126 2018-04-19 14:42:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253455126 Conclusion r_leah_casey https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253455758 This is classified as a fight rather than an argument, because Trump and the various news agencies he has been labeling as fake, have been throwing remarks and insults rather that listening to the various sides; and because it is an emotionally charged exchange rather than purely factual. ]]> 2018-04-19 14:43:34 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253455758 Evidence #2 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253458048 This article is talking about how their trash talking turned into the "most lucrative fight in history."]]> 2018-04-19 14:46:47 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253458048 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253458283 2018-04-19 14:47:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253458283 Example #1: Emotionally Charged inturuptions jupie4444 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253460203 Clinton: Well, you know, once again Donald is implying that he didn't support the invasion of Iraq. I said it was a mistake. I said that years ago. He has consistently denied what is --

Trump: Wrong.

Clinton: -- is a very clear fact that before the invasion

Trump: Wrong.

Clinton: -- he supported it. I just want everybody to go google it. “Google Donald Trump Iraq” and you'll see the dozens of sources which verify that he was for the invasion of Iraq.

Trump: Wrong.

Clinton: And you can hear the audio of him saying that. Why does that matter? Well, it matters because he has not told the truth about that position.



]]> 2018-04-19 14:50:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253460203 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253460246 2018-04-19 14:50:59 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253460246 Analysis of Counterclaim https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253461469 The two memes convey two different ideas (one supporting and and one arguing against). However, both of the memes are subjective (the creator either enjoyed the movie or did not) and they can only be justified through emotion. Because the memes do not have statistics or reasoning in any other manner, the debate at hand must be deemed a fight.]]> 2018-04-19 14:53:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253461469 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253461579 2018-04-19 14:53:29 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253461579 Evidence #2 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253464366 Below is an article with information about the revenue the Emoji Movie made. Because it uses numerical values from a credible source, the debate over the film's success is more of an argument than a ]]> 2018-04-19 14:58:39 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253464366 ART https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253465788 2018-04-19 15:01:07 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253465788 What's the Feud? https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253466313 Did Kanye get permission from Taylor to use the lyrics " I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex
Why? I made that bitch famous
I made that bitch famous ". ]]> 2018-04-19 15:02:08 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253466313 Fight or Argument? https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253467464 Since Kanye lacks a counterclaim and Taylor lacks evidence, this feud seems to be more of a fight. Neither side acknowledges the other and the arguments stem more from emotion and need to protect their self image. Though it is a fight, it still has an impressive amount of structure to it. ]]> 2018-04-19 15:04:12 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253467464 Fight jupie4444 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253467792 While the debate was supposed to be a civil argument, many emotionally charged comments and interruptions from both sides corrupted the civility and made it a fight.]]> 2018-04-19 15:04:47 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253467792 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253470334 2018-04-19 15:09:34 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253470334 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253470605 2018-04-19 15:10:02 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/TOKReasoning/wish/253470605