https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b Trying to understand paper 2 in my own way en-us 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC 2025-10-28 05:57:48 UTC hello@padlet.com 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260840 Words should be carefully chosen, grammatically correct, effective, and appropriate. Transition words should be present as not only do they organize your paper but make it sound academic, presenting good sentence structure in the process]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260840 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260843 This section focused on focus and organization which means that it should be well balanced, with logical and convincing argument. Which should be put together in a cohesive manner.]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260843 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260845 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260845 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260846 This section focuses on analysis, I should avoid any plot summary, and only allow it when it is something different or to set context. I should also focus on how the authors do certain things and if they didn't include it what effect would it have on the story as a whole while comparing and contrasting on the text as a whole. IT'S ALL ABOUT BALANCE]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260846 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260848 This section focuses on the knowledge and understanding of the text, making you compare and contrast the texts in a manner which shows this great understanding, providing a good interpretation of how and why these texts do this]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260848 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260849 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260849 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260850 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260850 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260853 I can talk about the devices they used and what choices they made with certain characters to make them pop out or elicit an emotion from readers]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260853 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260854 Vicario twins in CODAF and the Whatsitsname and the souls within itself]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260854 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260855 The struggle with popular opinion can be seen in FIB with media, and CODAF with tradition]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260855 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260856 Honor can be seen universally as well as the discrimination of women like in Hines' paper that I graded or like the hypocrisy of religion]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260856 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260857 How will I answer these? How do I make these questions fit with almost every text?]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260857 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260858 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260858 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260859 Thesis Statement: Within the novels, FIB and COADF, individual perceptions are riddled throughout. Between both works it can be seen that there is a contrast of setting to present these concepts however the effect of this is the same regardless of time and place. Which is clearly shown through the motif ritual throughout COADF but is not throughout FIB as the motif being the Whatsitsname offers many juxtaposing viewpoints, because of his origin being made up of people from identities conflicting with one other, posing a moral dilemma within his psyche (come back to this) 
Thesis sentence 1: In both works, it can be seen that there is a contrast in setting to present the concepts on individual perception however the effect of this is the same through literary devices. 
Topic sentence 1 Comp: Throughout COADF and FIB there continue to be multiple views of a situation presenting unreliable narrator tropes throughout the process showing that concepts of good and bad may stem from a belief that the person holds, like the Whatsitsname with his belief that all who commit crime deserve death or with those people in the Colombian town; some who believe it is okay for Santiago to die while others do not.
Topic Sentence 2 Cont: In COADF, one core idea being presented would be that of ritual where throughout the story many people know what is going to happen throughout the open community that they express their opinions which is not the case with FIB as it is a war-torn country with those who have differing ideals but are not allowed to present them.

Patterns: Those in Iraq who disappear either through being taken by the government due to 'terroristic' like behavior such as expressing their opinion while others are chastised by the community due to their beliefs and own perceptions of good and bad. For example, Faraj harasses a homeless man and others because of their lifestyle and his religion, the Whatitsname kills others based on the fact they are criminals, viewing it as a situation in black and white when it is more complex than that, or even through Hadi as he views the terrorists to be a part of daily life due to his belief that this is the status quo. 
COADF: The Vicario Brothers openly state that they are going to kill Santiago, those in the town who refuse to stop them, those who want to stop them, the men viewing those in the whorehouse as people despite their unholiness to their religion while other women who are deemed pure as torn down for not being a virgin. The testimonies of those in town being down to those who believe in what is certain and what is not, this leans into the unreliable narrator trope as there are no definitive facts on the situation just the expressions of the townfolk.]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260859 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260861 (FIB with the monster and his victims, Angela and Bayardo love and hypocrisy of religion)
Thesis Statement: Both Gabriel Marquez, author of Chronicle of a Death Foretold, and Ahmed Saadawi, author of Frankenstein in Baghdad, present different forms of intolerance and their effects on both the victims and the intolerant in their works. In both novels, it can be that the forms of intolerance stem from a belief or religion, however, it can be based on the woman disgraced in her community or the monster whose ideals become clouded in a moral dilemma with victims 
Thesis one sentence: In both novels on a surface level it can be seen that the forms of intolerance stem from a religion or belief that the person, however, they take different routes to get to this place from a woman disgraced in her community to a monster whose ideal become clouded in moral dilemmas.

Topic Sentence 1 Cont: Unlike COADF, Frankenstein in Baghdad takes a different route with the intolerant, the Whatitsname going from tolerant of those on one side then becoming a rogue monster on the loose, showing that he is on both sides of the coin rather than just one. 

Topic Sentence 2 Comp: These novels both align in the fact that a character through the intolerance of belief also has an underlying bias toward themselves, as Bayardo San Roman and the Whatitsname deem people unworthy by the fact that they perceive themselves to be worthy either by a virgin or to become a bringer of justice in some regard. 

Patterns: The Whatitsname continues to kill no matter how insignificant the crime may be, putting himself on a pedal stool
Those in COADF effectively deemed Angela as a disgrace meanwhile those who are men have not been so righteous in the face of religion themselves. ]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260861 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260863 Thesis statement: Honor, as a motif, is used throughout Chronicle of a Death Foretold and Frankenstein in Baghdad to convey the lengths to which societal norms have effects on a person can be the same despite the environment like the Whatsitsname in the war-torn country and the Vicario Twins in a small Colombian town.

Topic Sentence: In Chronicle of a Death Foretold honor is used to present the societal pressure of conventional standards through the Vicario Twins with their revenge on Santiago, while the Whatitsname does it through the multiple standards of the dead as he is an amalgamation of many different sides and laws he presents. Despite this, the honor of motif is presented through both sides the same as something they can not go back on and is presented throughout the work.

Patterns: Honor used as a motif: through the Whatsitsname (His struggle with moral dilemmas to upkeep his honor) and the Vicario Brothers (Having to do whatever it takes to upkeep their honor despite the hypocrisies through their actions), both of these uses correlate with one another however they are different in purpose. 


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I could do Angela and Mahmoud 
Recorder and tradition plague them 
this enables the reader to sympathize with them
Mahmoud's relationship with his family leaves to become something better than what he thought he could (gives up in the end)
Angela's pressure from her mother on the topic of marriage and religion (writes letters to Bayardo showing the impact of the tradition has the impact on her effectively caving into the tradition like Mahmoud)

Thesis Statement: Both novels present struggles that invoke the reader to relate to real-world situations through literary devices from a man attempting to prove himself to a woman under societal pressures and roles assigned to her by the community around her. (mood, tone, symbolism)

Topic Sentence 1 Comp: Marquez and Sadaawi use motifs like the recorder and tradition to symbolize the societal pressure put on people which enables readers to sympathize with certain characters despite what they have done.

Topic Sentence 2 Cont: Despite both authors showing societal pressure, Marquez goes further depicting how it may result in dire situations such as the death of Santiago Nasar invoking fear in the reader as it shows what preserving honor is capable of.

Patterns: Mahmoud tries to prove himself throughout the book, Mahmoud's Father is labeled as an outsider due to his private journal going against societal norms, and Mahmoud moves away to prove something later to give up and sell the recorder.
COADF: Angela is afraid to disclose the loss of her virginity, and writes letters to Bayardo as a result of being disgraced and hated by the town, the tradition is what causes her to be led down the path she went down. ]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260867 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260868 COADF and FIB (Maybe Neruda)
Thesis: Despite both authors going about creating a ‘convincing’ world in different ways, they use the unreliable narrator trope to go about it, and they’re both effective in their attempts, invoking the reader to delve into the moral dilemmas that conflict in the human psyche. While seeing that this can relate to the real world in a variety of conflicts stemming from a murder in a small town to a wartorn country with differing ideologies. 
 
Thesis 1 Sentence: Both authors go about creating a ‘convincing’ world in different ways stemming from a murder in a small town to a wartorn country with differing ideologies, using the unreliable narrator trope to go about it, and they’re both effective in their attempts, invoking the reader to delve into the moral dilemmas that clash in the human psyche.

Topic Sentence 1 Comp: Both authors utilize the unreliable narrator trope with Nasar's friend bringing bias to the table as well as the Whatsitsname in Saadawi's FIB, invoking readers to emphasize with the emotions of both characters in each respective novel as they are told from their point of view, however in FIB it incorporates many perspectives

Topic Sentence 2 Cont: Saadawi creates a convincing world by incorporating real-world aspects such as politics, the media, and war with multiple perspectives whereas Marquez tells a story in first person perspective while utilizing past elements and testimonies from people in the town to create a "convincing world" and despite going about it in different ways it still enables the reader to think about these worlds and how they relate to the real world. 

Patterns: Presents propaganda, set during the Iraq War, and utilizes multiple perspectives to convey the impact of the war, despite Whatsitsname being a fictional character Saadawi incorporates human emotion plagued by moral dilemmas. 
COADF: First Person Bias, Unreliable Narrator, emotion-based testimony, real issues that plague the real world like intolerance toward women, tradition, abuse, murder, lies, etc.

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(hadi being labeled as a Liar) (Santiago nasar's murder or i can do bayardo san roman not knowing angela is not a virgin)

Thesis Statement: The effects of not knowing in novels are notable, like the people not believing Hadi with his overt fantasy-like stories or through Santiago Nasar's murder with the bystander effect where individuals of the town do not provide any help to the victim when others people are involved in the picture. Both authors' decision to present the effects of not knowing through foreshadowing creates a real-life scenario in which the victims of the crimes being committed become the perpetrators. 

Topic Sentence 1 Comp: In both novels, the effect of not knowing comes at a great cost as the fantasy stories that Hadi comes up with would foreshadow his untimely arrest for the crimes of the Whatitsname, despite the Whatitsname being real the officials and others have labeled Hadi a liar. The same could be said with Bayardo San Roman as he had made great sacrifices to be with Angela, thought to be a virgin which was a lie, this would undoubtedly foreshadow how the death of Santiago Nasar would die as the readers already know he is going to die but not from what. The effect of not knowing here causes a chain of reactions that would inevitably lead to Santiago Nasar's death. 

Topic Sentence 2 Cont: The effect of not knowing is different in each case as the Whatitsname is only told by Hadi who is known for being a pathological liar which enables Saadawi to present this idea to be true while in COADF Marquez utilizes personal testimonies shows multiple sides of one story making it hard to distinguish fact from fabrication.

Patterns: Hadi not knowing his creation would come to life, the government not knowing of the Whatsitsname and blaming Hadi, and the people watching Hadi tell his story of the Whatitsname suspecting him to be the perpetrator despite the reader knowing the existence of the whatsitsname.
COADF: Multiple testimonies some being truthful while others lie, the Vicario brothers not knowing their honor had been taken from their sister, Bayardo not knowing that Angela was a virgin, the townsfolk not knowing the Vicario brothers actually had the guts to carry out the murder, Santiago Nasar not knowing he was going to be murdered. ]]> 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260869 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260871 2023-03-06 14:38:28 UTC https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260871 375222 https://padlet.com/375222/4om997s78lr2771b/wish/2505260872 Do Neruda for this one with COADF
(Poems to do with this) magical realism with Marquez perhaps unreliable narrator for both but not sure yet, def symbolism with Neruda but need to go deeper with this

Thesis Statement: Throughout the work of Marquez and Neruda, they effectively convey atmospheres through means of mood, imagery, and tone to elicit an emotional response from readers.

Topic Sentence 1 Comp: In both Neruda's "I explain some things" and Marquez's COADF, the atmosphere is heavy as the readers feel uncomfortable reading through the imagery presented through death. (The children's blood quote as well as Santiago's scent that remained throughout the town)

Topic Sentence 2 Cont: Throughout Neruda's poem it can be seen that it is presenting a cycle of revenge while Marquez's work through tone and mood continues to tackle the societal norms placed on people such as women through imagery. (the brutal beating of Angela and what Bayardo did to her) 

Patterns: The serious nature of war is presented throughout the poem, similes, metaphors, and mood are riddled throughout invoking a kind of horrified feeling
COADF: Angela being thrown down, Santiago Nasar's scent, and the town traumatized after the event.



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can relate to angela and Bayardo san roman - this desire to shut them up with I like it when your quiet

Thesis Statement: Both Neruda and Marquez convey a struggle to be understood through different means, poetry and novel mediums, yet convey the unique struggles of love and loneliness through literary devices.

Topic Sentence 1 Comp: Through the struggles of love in both novels Angela and the Speaker experience loneliness when their partner is gone and through mood and imagery the reader sees how loneliness can invoke a desire to be with that person once more. - Nerudas "I Like It When You're Quiet"

Topic Sentence 2 Cont: The speaker in the poem does not want to be with the partner but changes once he imagines her dead, which is not the case for Angela as she desires Bayardo when she is outcasted from society, their tone changes when something occurs to them but is different because of the situation. 

Patterns: The continued "As if" like the speaker is hyperventilating over the continued imagining of his partner's death, The speaker's rude tone toward the partner wanting them to be quiet.
COADF: Angela not wanting to marry Bayardo, the continuous writing of letters once she is outcasted, the imagery presented while she is going crazy


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