Initial responses and thoughts by https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn What are your initial thoughts and responses from these ideas? en-us 2021-04-23 11:30:01 UTC 2021-04-23 13:47:41 UTC hello@padlet.com Yes I really identify with these frustrations https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451698739 2021-04-23 13:38:17 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451698739 NURTURE https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451698952 WHEN WE PUT NURTURE AND PROCESS AT THE CENTRE OF TEACHING I BELIEVE THIS TAKES AWAY A LOT OF THESE PROBLEMS. ]]> 2021-04-23 13:38:20 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451698952 The investment describes my own childhood experience learning, feeling guilty, being shouted at for not practising by teacher, being excluded as lower class https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451699006 This has made my teaching style really focus on including children like me and perhaps more so shun the traditional style of teaching and the classical world for a long time.]]> 2021-04-23 13:38:20 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451699006 "Can I be different things to different children?" is my favourite question. Yes! I think it's so easy to forget this and just plod on with the same teaching model for every child - and it really doesn't work!! https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451701988 2021-04-23 13:38:55 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451701988 yes, constantly having to adjust pace of learning etc/ content, finding the way the sudent learns best https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451702510 2021-04-23 13:39:02 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451702510 https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451702621 completely agree, so much of what we may ask for seems to exaggerate differences between students which can make some of them feel bad. It can be heartbreaking.]]> 2021-04-23 13:39:03 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451702621 I so want to believe high level playing doesn't have to be traumatic but... why do they go so hand in hand? Negative reinforcement was definitely effective for me, but it's also a reality of many iconic classical musicians' past. It almost acts historical proof of efficacy !! Help 🥺 https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451702870 2021-04-23 13:39:06 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451702870 https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451702919 It resonates with my feelings about classical music education. Technical ability seems to be prioritised over the enjoyment of learning Music and expressing yourself]]> 2021-04-23 13:39:07 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451702919 All we do needs to be tailored to each child. It can be so easy to think this area of technique needs to improve so let me focus on this endlessly until they get it. Perhaps all the child needs is something easy to perform to help them grow in confidence before they tackle something more challenging https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451704126 2021-04-23 13:39:22 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451704126 Collaboration and illiciting a dialogue with the students https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451705784 2021-04-23 13:39:42 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451705784 pjpb8swxds https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451705945 Social background is definitely a big factor to the way one teacher may choose how to pick a method that may work, but it does not always work as planned...and there are always good intentions at first, which sadly don’t always last either children and/or parents]]> 2021-04-23 13:39:44 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451705945 This really resonates with me, but also makes me conflicted! I have always deeply believed that I didn't practise enough as a child and that I was taught in a way that held me back from the things that I now want to achieve as a professional musician. I want to make sure that nothing I does holds a child back, either by leaving a child with technical problems that will cause trouble later or by making the experience unpleasant for them. But how can I know what a young child will want in the future and how to make sure they can get there? https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451707138 2021-04-23 13:39:59 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451707138 I often feel like I am trying to balance the children's needs vs. general expectations of "achievement" https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451707469 2021-04-23 13:40:03 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451707469 Needing to always be aware and picking up on cues from the students as to which path of learning is best for them https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451708363 2021-04-23 13:40:14 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451708363 https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451709092 When growing up, the 'serious' ABRSM pieces for my exams took priority over the irish and scottish music which I enjoyed playing, and was probably better at! ]]> 2021-04-23 13:40:23 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451709092 Yes, very torn and conflicted. As a charity, for many years we’ve been working on trying to change the look of those graphs at the start, but perhaps that was the wrong goal. https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451712515 2021-04-23 13:41:05 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451712515 parents' expectations tend to get in the way of doing what feels right... https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451713672 2021-04-23 13:41:18 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451713672 I difficulty is find out from each student what they are interested in, to just 'have fun' and only enjoy their lessons or they are interested becoming a professional performers/musicians, according to their choice we need to adapt our teaching. https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451714880 2021-04-23 13:41:34 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451714880 I still don't listen to classical music for enjoyment...I think I was scarred from my training https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451716552 2021-04-23 13:41:55 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451716552 One of my violin teachers used to get me to play one section of the Brahms violin concerto and then play a jig or two and then go back to the Brahms with the free movement I had playing the jigs. It was amazing how an iconic piece of music carried such weight in how I thought about playing it or how I felt physically https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451720502 2021-04-23 13:42:44 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451720502 Not feeling pressurised by external structures and parameters https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451721070 2021-04-23 13:42:50 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451721070 gillmottmusic https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451722284 The investment model would be more beneficial in schools with higher parental engagement.
I feel in school were there to inspire a love of music and encourage better leaving that they can apply to other subjects or aspects in life.  Treating all children equally regardless of background teaches better teamwork as well as demonstrating that class is not selective of talent.

]]> 2021-04-23 13:43:07 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451722284 As you mentioned, often pieces that were diverse repertoire were just used to serve a classical goal (e.g. a fiddle piece for double stops / string crossing that might help a concerto later). Now I’m unpacking that and going back to those pieces that I loved and trying to teach them for a different reason and with more depth / respect. https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451723553 2021-04-23 13:43:22 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451723553 I just did what i was told, i had no ideas about what music i wanted to play as a kid. Now i realised what i missed out on and am playing all the disney/film/musical tunes with my students! https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451731462 2021-04-23 13:45:00 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451731462 It’s up to us to make any and all of the music we teach be viewed as “fun music” to learn! https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451732600 2021-04-23 13:45:14 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451732600 surprised to see that the most creative people are the ones that normally have not the highest incomes. History is a loop. Great artists making history in all arts and when you dive into their lives you realize they lived in misery and some of them died with no recognition. https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451744374 2021-04-23 13:47:41 UTC https://padlet.com/anna_bull/4o2zy9p6t5y3yohn/wish/1451744374