Weimar Repeated? by Lo

kyra_muster — 2018-11-16 10:45:17 UTC

AfD 4,7 percent in the general elections 2013 compared to the NSDAP which had a result of 2,6 percent in 1928

World Economic Crisis of 2007

tas_cuneyt25 — 2018-11-16 10:48:30 UTC

The world economy collapses because of too high speculations in the US real estate market

->Economies of many states suffered
->Almost all western states had their first recession in a long time
->The debt of many states rose drastically

->Caused the “Eurokrise”

The Eurokrise(2010)

tas_cuneyt25 — 2018-11-16 10:52:46 UTC

Members of the “Eurozone” in the EU were unable to pay back their debts (Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Cyprus)

->Many states(especially Greece) and their economies suffered because of this crisis, Greece almost went bankrupt
->Unemployment Rate in many countries rose dramatically
->The EU(and especially Germany) had to help Greece to survive this crisis without going bankrupt
->Tax payer money had to be used to save banks even though they were supposed to be “too big to fail”

kyra_muster — 2018-11-16 10:53:10 UTC

Start of the world economic crisis because of the property crisis in the US in 2007 which resulted in the rise of interests.

The origin of the AFD

caro_kuerten — 2018-11-16 10:53:32 UTC

founded in 2013
reasons for foundation:

-> anger about introduction of Euro and measures to save it
-> criticism on SPD supporting government’s politics despite being the opposition
-> AFD as an “alternative”, against Merkel
-> demands national currencies or smaller currency sectors
-> against centralized EU state
-> want less influence in legislative for EU

kyra_muster — 2018-11-16 10:54:24 UTC

September 2008 collapse of the Leman brothers bank

jonas_piechocki — 2018-11-16 10:58:48 UTC

AfD: homosexuals have lesser rights
NSDAP: homosexuals should be killed

jonas_piechocki — 2018-11-16 10:59:16 UTC

NSDAP: no democracy after elections

mara_may — 2018-11-16 10:59:54 UTC

Toxic masculinity
(Indoctrinated elaboration of men over women; power; suppression and acceptance of violence as an instrument)
–> more prone to extreme parties as a form of protest?

kyra_muster — 2018-11-16 11:00:58 UTC

NSDAP : voters from all classes
—> fear of losing social status
—> insecurity/ uncertainty of the middle class (especially Independent workers e.g. farmers, craftsman)

mara_may — 2018-11-16 11:01:03 UTC

“failure“ of social democracy

jonas_piechocki — 2018-11-16 11:01:15 UTC

AfD: muslims without political influence
NSDAP: foreign people are „enemies“ (existence of jews is bad for the entire world)

Economic crisis until the introduction of the Rentenmark and the Dawes Plan(until 1923)

tas_cuneyt25 — 2018-11-16 11:01:35 UTC

The Treaty of Versailles gives Germany the war guilt

->Germany is forced to pay the war reparations
->Germany can‘t pay the reparations, so the French occupy the Ruhr area in 1923
->German government supports “passive resistance“ and prints more and more money
->Hyperinflation causes hunger and suffering among the population
->Election results in 1924 support extreme parties like the KPD(12,6%) and the NSDAP(6,6%)

Stresemann introduces the Rentenmark
->Hyperinflation is stopped

The USA start the Dawes Plan to support the German economy
->The US gives loans to Germany to help them pay the war reparations
->This helped the economies of Germany, the Allies and also the US

mara_may — 2018-11-16 11:03:46 UTC

capitalism (promotes + supports negative image)
–> meritocracy

NSDAP election–program

jonas_piechocki — 2018-11-16 11:05:55 UTC

mara_may — 2018-11-16 11:07:19 UTC

hate against minor groups (women, homeless, unemployed)
–> someone to blame

AfD election–program

jonas_piechocki — 2018-11-16 11:07:40 UTC

The Great Depression(1929)

tas_cuneyt25 — 2018-11-16 11:07:47 UTC

The Great Depression was a severe worldwide economic crisis in 1929-1930s, which weakened all states and their economies
It started with the stock market crash of October 1929(“Black Tuesday”)

->Longest and severest depression in the 20th Century
->Had devastating effects for poor and rich
->Crippled the GDP of almost all countries
->Caused inflation in Germany
->All banks retracted their loans
->Germany was unable to pay the war reparations/debt
->New inflation, which opened the way for the radicals

jonas_piechocki — 2018-11-16 11:09:24 UTC

both want to limit the freedom of speech ( for example limited tv–programme)

kyra_muster — 2018-11-16 11:13:56 UTC

NSDAP gained voters from all other not extreme parties
AFD mostly gains voters from the so-called “Volksparteien“ SPD and CDU/CSU

mara_may — 2018-11-16 11:15:34 UTC

Theories of voting for NSDAP

caro_kuerten — 2018-11-16 11:19:14 UTC

Social Classes Theory

all social classes show both extremist and democratic tendencies
there’s also a middle-class extremism
central form of extremism in middle class is fascism, therefore also national socialism
liberalism also linked to middle-class, shows similarities to fascism
result: former voters of liberal middle-class parties turn to more radical parties (e.g. under influence of economic crises)

Crowd Theory

NSDAP mobilized young and former non-voters (more socially isolated and politically unaffiliated than older, politically engaged voters)
influence of events like world economic crisis are of major importance

Political Confessionalism

voters from politically unbound middle-class (without a supporting social milieu, world view)
lack of social integration and weakly developed connections to parties made this electorate prone to favouring extremism

mara_may — 2018-11-16 11:19:23 UTC

similarities at the beginning

kyra_muster — 2018-11-21 12:04:11 UTC

AfD: during eurocrisis ( Financial Crisis in Greece)
After introduction of the Euro
NSDAP: gaining popularity during and after world economic crisis 1929

Differences

kyra_muster — 2018-11-21 12:10:08 UTC

AfD : originally eurocritical and economical liberal party with right-wing tendencies
Since 2015 (refugee crisis) more right wing -> anti-integration speeches

NSDAP: from the beginning on extremist, anti-semitic and anti-democratic

AfD vs NSDAP voters

kyra_muster — 2018-11-21 12:18:56 UTC

AFD: 25% of voters are workers or unemployed
75% of voters are civil servants, white-collar workers or self-employed

Mobilisation of non-voters

NSDAP: civil servants, white-collar workers and self-employed are more likely to vote for the NSDAP

Mining workers tended to vote for KPD or sometimes for the less extreme SPD

Campaigns

kyra_muster — 2018-11-21 12:25:44 UTC

Both:

Scandalising, (some) right-wing populist voices presentation
Discriminating, provocative
Assume role of victim
Voter as subject / victim ( today : „islamification“ 1930‘s Jews as a threat)

NSDAP
November criminals

AFD

Other politicians as part of a cartell, controlling life politically

CONCLUSION

kyra_muster — 2018-11-21 12:37:36 UTC

Our Constitution is much more protective of our democracy than the Weimar Constion has been (articles 25,48,53 ; 5 percent hurdle, presidential cabinets )
Office for the protection of the constitution pays attentions to extreme parties, can even prohibit them
Society :
Nationalism more common in the 1930‘s
Wish for a replacement of monarch -> strong leading figure
Feeling of being treated unfairly
Today :
Better living conditions (less poverty )
Split between people from western and eastern regions caused by e.g. economical differences
Respect for democracy/ fear of living in a dictatorship due to living victims
(More experiences with democracy )