CIME Mentoring Systemic Scenarios - What would you do? by Aris Winger https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD What would you do in these situations. en-us 2023-03-14 18:31:06 UTC 2025-12-02 00:51:16 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530793011 Frustrated because my undergraduate institution’s answer would’ve been to ask Isabella to start a student organization centered on this topic. But the work should not be on her. How should Isabella respond?]]> 2023-03-24 18:20:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530793011 I know where REUs are listed. How do we know *which ones* will be not traumatizing? https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794035 2023-03-24 18:21:36 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794035 I am wondering myself. Where to find an updated overview, well organized, that lists all REU opportunities nationwide https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794062 2023-03-24 18:21:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794062 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794088 Faculty should disseminate research opportunities (both on and off-campus) in class]]> 2023-03-24 18:21:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794088 offer to officially reserve a space for them going forward ... as a crutch ... and continue to advocate for abolition of so-called "security officers" (i.e. replace all policing structures by community-based structures) https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794700 2023-03-24 18:22:16 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794700 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794922 Isabella will know better than I do about how her peers get information. What would be the best way for them to hear about these? Maybe the department can have an “undergraduate opportunities” board with postings of things coming up. Another possibility is a department info session where students can learn about things that are going on!]]> 2023-03-24 18:22:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530794922 Ask her to help you find ways to advertise REUs to students. Find ways to disseminate the info to ALL students in the department (listserv, message board, etc.) Maybe she's willing to do a talk about what an REU is and what she learned (maybe not). https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530795053 2023-03-24 18:22:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530795053 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530795556 If I’m a faculty member in this scenario, I would try to institute programming/workshops/events geared towards Latinx students (perhaps event can be advertised through Latinx student groups) to help disseminate this information and motivate it well.]]> 2023-03-24 18:23:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530795556 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530795926 my undergraduate mentor, she is a Latina mathematician and she is how I learned about research, REUs, grad school, conferences... and the reason I even had this conversation with her was because IN CLASS, in my linear algebra class I took as a sophomore, she told us "All you math majors, especially you Latina math majors--come talk to me so I can help you learn how to make the most of your time here" - if it wasn't for her taking 5 minutes at the beginning of the first day of class to say something, I don't know if I would even be in grad school right now

I know this doesn't directly answer the prompt, but felt it was important to share]]> 2023-03-24 18:23:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530795926 Is the onus on her to do this work? https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530797343 There should be a balance of letting her carry out her passionate about advocating for other latines in math, but also not having her be overwhelmed with DEI work, especially as someone who DEI work should be done for in the first place! Maybe the best is to ask her what she wants to do and what type of support she needs, in particular that from professors and the department]]> 2023-03-24 18:24:33 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530797343 Encourage Isabella! https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530797520 Support Isabella's new-found interest and enthusiasm! See if Isabella is interested in sharing these ideas with the Math Club or other groups on campus. If so, make arrangements for her to be able to share, support her in preparing for these talks, and be there to listen! If she is not comfortable doing this, I would ask her to help me prepare information that I can give out to others - what does she wish she knew, what info is important to give out - and importantly, ask her to give feedback on my materials/presentation so I can improve how this information gets into more hands.]]> 2023-03-24 18:24:43 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530797520 use your social capital to find out more about REUs and which will be good environments for URMs https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530797671 2023-03-24 18:24:52 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530797671 SACNAS resources? https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530797755 2023-03-24 18:24:57 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530797755 as a white, senior faculty member, I would take their lead on what to bring into my classrooms as well ... cosign public statements ... etc ... and (if desired) help with finding ways to do so in a way that's protected by academic freedom / the institutions written commitments to DEI https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530798441 2023-03-24 18:25:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530798441 I also have to think about what resources I can give-- and what I can't. https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530798625 2023-03-24 18:25:53 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530798625 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530798876 Idea #1: organize a (yearly?) workshop in the department for undergrad students to learn about REUs and other math activities happening in the department.

Idea #2: very simple, but could display the posters of students who have gone to REUs (if they have posters) in the halls, just to give visibility to the fact that this is something students are doing]]> 2023-03-24 18:26:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530798876 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530798949 Get faculty in my department to share these opportunities with their students and possibly organize a workshop about what REUs are, how to find the right one for yourself, and highlight the experiences of students who have had (positive) experiences with them.]]> 2023-03-24 18:26:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530798949 advertise in your lectures regularly, especially if you are teaching on the lower undergraduate level https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530799523 2023-03-24 18:26:49 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530799523 Write about it https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530800326 If she was interested, she could write a blog entry for MAA, like this one https://www.mathvalues.org/masterblog/students-speak-five-lessons-learned-at-my-first-reu]]> 2023-03-24 18:27:40 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530800326 It doesn't have to be difficult... https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530806558 Mention all upcoming REU deadlines (undergrad conferences/ opportunities)  that you are aware of. Better yet -- put links to websites online on the board. For extra brownie points work on your "approachability" as we mentioned yesterday and encourage them to talk to you in office hours (or by appt) about it. ]]> 2023-03-24 18:33:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530806558 I have come across a similar/related hurdle: I have an S-STEM grant. And I know my target students exist using institutional data (students from low-income background in specific majors), but I can't FIND them. https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530806563 2023-03-24 18:33:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530806563 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807529 I think I could convince my advisor to come to this……]]> 2023-03-24 18:34:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807529 This is exactly the situation I'm in! https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807587 2023-03-24 18:34:21 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807587 petition the NSF to make mentor training compulsory for all NSF grantees https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807596 2023-03-24 18:34:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807596 Surround students with summer opportunities https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807641 Spread the information in strategic classes, communities, department websites, and advising.

Create expectation among faculty for supporting students in accessing such opportunities: Letter writing, information, ...]]> 2023-03-24 18:34:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807641 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807741 Funding is easier to find than allies.]]> 2023-03-24 18:34:30 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530807741 Talk to the Dean. She's good at leveraging resources, and I know this is something she's passionate about. (Disclaimer: I'm department chair; otherwise I'd start there.) https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530808294 2023-03-24 18:35:06 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530808294 I am the Director of Faculty Research and Development at my university, so I plan to give a workshop about what I’ve learned at this workshop and share the resources. I’m already sure that my office will approve and fund it :) I believe there is interest on campus, so hopefully it’ll be well attended. https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530810352 2023-03-24 18:37:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530810352 I'm a graduate student https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530810356 I have no effing clue.]]> 2023-03-24 18:37:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530810356 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530810748 I don't know... but faculty members need to be CALLED OUT if this is how they feel

]]> 2023-03-24 18:37:52 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530810748 Call it something different. “Mentoring Reset” or “Mentoring Brainstorm Session” or “Mentoring the GenZ Generation” are possibilities. My colleagues will resist being “trained” at something they’ve been doing well enough for a long time. https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530811003 2023-03-24 18:38:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530811003 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530811771 Just a related experience: in graduate school, at one point there was a compulsory DEI training for the whole department, and while it's better than nothing, just making such a training compulsory doesn't necessarily mean people will take it seriously, or really participate, or challenge their worldview]]> 2023-03-24 18:38:53 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530811771 Find funding to get Aris, Pamela, Abbe, and Michael to come and give an amazing workshop for our faculty ;) https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530813549 2023-03-24 18:40:42 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530813549 Tap into the network of people here for support in finding funding. https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530813641 2023-03-24 18:40:48 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530813641 Is the president allowed to do that? https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530817504 2023-03-24 18:44:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530817504 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530817732 This is the moment when you find out what you are made of. Will you stand with your colleague or not? ]]> 2023-03-24 18:44:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530817732 Offer them my support and my title https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530818016 Offer to sign an email with them. Offer to back them on any form of public announcement/message. Offer to be the main visible author on these messages (though letting the junior faculty write the message) and ask other faculty to sign]]> 2023-03-24 18:44:58 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530818016 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530818060 I'm shocked, can the president of a university do this?]]> 2023-03-24 18:45:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530818060 Remind them that they're welcome to share their personal opinion and feelings, as long as it's not in class. If it comes up, recommend they comment something like, "I'm not supposed to talk about that in class, but if you need to talk about, we can talk after class." https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530818980 2023-03-24 18:45:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530818980 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530820535 Is the President even allowed to do this? There's nothing political about extending support to students who may need it after someone in their community (physical or identity-wise) has been hurt or murdered. I am confused on why this is an issue at all... maybe because I'd be the one ignoring orders]]> 2023-03-24 18:47:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530820535 this makes me think about a broader question recently on my mind a lot: how much personal risk do you take for a greater good? (Obviously depends on the risk and on the good/impact.) https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530820611 2023-03-24 18:47:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530820611 Vote of no confidence for the president! https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530820736 2023-03-24 18:47:53 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530820736 Join your colleague? Build a community of faculty members, harder to silence a group than a person. Wear an article of clothing or pin to represent your stance? https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530820932 2023-03-24 18:48:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530820932 https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530821179 How do other people in the university feel about this email? Strength in numbers?]]> 2023-03-24 18:48:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530821179 This is very precarious; as a junior faculty, the more pragmative thing is for the person to consider getting tenure, as we all know, systems aren't always fair and most change-makers or pushers pay dearly. The case of prof Amarasekare is apt here https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530827203 2023-03-24 18:54:59 UTC https://padlet.com/ariswinger/CIME_Mentoring_SystemicWWYD/wish/2530827203