I agree with the piggybacking comment, where Roger is following Jack to get as close as he can to power. I agree with Duncan, not everyone wants power, a lot of them are definitely followers

I think there is a connection between the themes of man vs nature as well as man vs man. In both books, the conditions of the environment affected the characters directly while also affecting the way they interacted with themselves. In ITA, we can see the effects that high altitude had on the way certain characters interacted with each other, leading them to make rash decisions which endangered themselves and others. An example is the death of Rob Hall due to his decision to continue climbing. This is mirrored in the way that the conditions of the island affected the thoughts and actions of the boys. An example would be the primal and savage way the boys acted during the storm, making them irrational and impulsively brutal which ultimately led to Simon's death.

I also agree with Kisha when she was talking about piggybacking. An example is shown by Roger because he tries to get as close and comfortable with Jack. This is so that he could have the power Jack has to be able to do whatever he wants to all of the other kids and be free.

(This is from my notebook cause Noah wanted to type in his responses on my Chromebook)

When asked who is in charge, Ralph speaks up and says he is chief which shows the status of the characters returning to the beginning of the novel when the boys still believed in civilization and Ralph was undisputed chief.

• The boys had to step up and act like adults since no one adults were on the island. When they took over this role of being adults, they lost their minds and morality. But as soon as the naval officer, an adult, came onto the island, they all started to weep and felt guilty and remorseful. Jack, Ralph, and the rest of the boys crying and keeping shows how they felt guilty for their actions and didn't want to take responsibility.

I agree with how Anjiya directly relates this passage with the theme of power and how when the boys will soon leave the island after arrival of the naval officer that the boys will give up their power. Peyton also elaborates on this point giving reasons such as the little boys had to step up while on the island but now that there is an adult present, they now have to give up their authority.

Anji also made a good point of how throughout the story the island becomes more dead and less lively. It symbolizes the downfall of their civilization due to everyone's selfishness and immoral actions the society almost fell apart. Back when Simon was alive in the begging of the novel the island was described as lively and near the end of the novel the diction and description of it was more dark and empty and dead.

The group also talked about how the boys crying is them getting to experience some of their innocence again. The boys have had to try and act and behave like adults on the island, as well as trying to act tough because they had no adults to look up to to tell them what to do. Now that they have an adult on the island to save them they cry and get to be vulnerable for a moment of time. This can especially be seen in Jack because throughout the book his entire character changed, but now he is crying and probably gets a rush of everything that has happened on the island, or everything he has done. The ending of the book represents the impact their experiences will have on them for the rest of their lives, but lets them be kids again. It is relieving for both the readers and the characters, but also very intense because they will never be the same.

I also agree with Peyton when she said once the boys were in the hands of an adult they become all the same no matter bigguns and littluns. And with the littluns crying because they were forced to learn how to solve their own problems at that young age because of the disputes of Jack and Ralph and this led them to cry because they didn't have any adult figure or role model to help them when they were there and it was a sudden change.

I also like what Ephrathah said about how as soon as a authority figure steps onto the island, the boy immediately stepped down from these high power figures and became boys again. I personally think the story ending with all the boys crying connects how harmful stepping into those roles can be, I think the crying of relief and want to be a boy again pulls the story full circle as in chapter 1, there was a vote for power and power was a role that was wanted, to now at the end of the story power being the last thing any of the boys want. They just want to be home.

taking accountability for actions :

personally, I don't think any of the boys will be punished for these actions. I think this is honestly a symbolism intended by Golding to show how the beast within us gets away with it, showing how this feeling is free and cannot be contained. I think this also connects to real world issues with how corruption and crime is handled and what deserves to be punished. I think that this point Golding is trying to make is also represented throughout the story with no punishments what so ever about the deaths of Simon and Piggy. These characters deaths are mainly overlooked and I think this symbolized how the beast within us doesn't feel guilt, its pure savagery with no other human emotion attached.

I also think morality plays a part here too, Kinda like how in the book Into Thin Air, its mentioned how morality isn't an option at a specific height on the mountain, which is similar to how in the book Lord of the Flies, morality is not even a thought as time progresses on this island. At a certain point, its like morality is below the thought process of the boys. What i mean by that is when they kill the pig and Simon they continuously stab and stab without even considering saving them.

Faiyaz gave amazing examples on how the passage analysis is portrayed as an Allegory and explains how the diction shown in this passage is a direct reference from the Allegorical themes we discussed about in the book.