https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp Post your quotations from chapters 11 and 12 that relate to gender norms. Then, decide whether the author is challenging or reinforcing gender norms in this quotation. en-us 2022-05-11 11:33:45 UTC 2022-06-01 14:04:43 UTC hello@padlet.com 3008792 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179389733 "'You're very cheeky,' Florence said. 'And you think you have a special power simply because my uncle thinks you possess a pretty face. But that's not power. It's a liability"(114).

I think that this quote shows how Florence reinforces gender roles as she tries to discourage Noemi from manipulating men / having power as a woman.]]> 2022-05-11 13:12:55 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179389733 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179394838 "The door opened to the library, and Florence walked in, Lizzie following her behind with a pail and rag"

The author reinforces Florence's role as the woman of the house which is a traditional gender role.

]]> 2022-05-11 13:15:42 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179394838 3008792 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179396384 "The comment was mildly inappropriate. In the daylight, with other people, it might have been a joke. At night, and the way he said it, it didn't seem at all decent"(121).

This quote shows that even though Noemi is an unconventional woman and is breaking many societal norms, Virgil still has societal power over her.]]> 2022-05-11 13:16:33 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179396384 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179396880 A quote I found is in chapter 9 and it says "men would be so well behaved when they courted a woman, asking her out to parties and sending her flowers, but once they married, the flowers wilted "(95). 

I thought this was an excellent gender quote because it shows how men were treating women in this time period and just how different Noemi is. ]]> 2022-05-11 13:16:52 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179396880 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179398566 Quote 1 (10): "He smiled. "Should we meet in the library? In, say, an hour?" "Very Well."" // This kind of reinforces gender norms, with the scene playing out as Francis asking Noemi out (it's a sort-of date)--following the norm of, "the man will ask the woman out." What's interesting, however, is how it could also be a slight challenge to these norms as Noemi is letting him ask her because she needs a favor from him, so she uses this to her advantage. 

Quote 2 (11): "He picked up the oil lamp. "I'll walk you back to your room."" // This is simply a reinforcement of gender roles, specifically the aspect of "man protects woman." In this situation Virgil insists on guiding Noemi to her room because he, the man in this situation, feels that Noemi cannot make it back safely or without guidance from him, or she'd injure herself. So he takes it upon himself to take her back. ]]> 2022-05-11 13:17:54 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179398566 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179398590 "You were interested in these items. Perhaps you might polish them, she said."

I think that this quote would be the authors way of showing how women are suppose to be the cleaner of the house.]]> 2022-05-11 13:17:55 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179398590 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179401939 "You look very fine in my clothes, he said"..."the commentv was mildy inappropriate. in the daylight with other people, it might have been a joke. At night, and the ways he said it didint seem all decent. And yet though subtly wrong she found herself unable to reply."...."she didnt say a thing". (Garcia.121)

In chapter 11, Virgil had a certain interaction with Noemi. In which she was put into a very uncomfortable and expected situation. Though she doesnt say anything about what happened, it was never brought up again. As she states she "didnt want to start a fight". This reinforces the idea of women and to what extent a man can hold power over a one.


]]> 2022-05-11 13:19:30 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179401939 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179404915 In chapter 10 Howard says "to be a Doyle is to be someone"(114). 

This quote shows that when Catalina was considered a nobody, but in Howard's eyes when she is in the High House then she is a Doyle, a somebody.  She essentially became his property in a sense that she never had control. ]]> 2022-05-11 13:21:10 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179404915 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179406095 Virgil gives Noemi his robe, when Noemi tried to return it, he flirtatiously notes how fetching she looks in his belongings, a “mildly inappropriate” comment that leaves her speechless.


I feel that this quote shows us that Virgil has a motive. Also we can see that Noemi is speechless because she didn't expect that from him.]]> 2022-05-11 13:21:48 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179406095 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179410030 "because although Flourence was intimidating she was not willing to hide in a corner like a baby. Youre very cheeky, Flourence said. Adn you think you have a special power simply because my uncle thinks you posses a pretty face. But thats not power. Its a liability."(Garcia.114)

In Flourences perspective, theres only such limitation on what a women can do being placed into society. ]]> 2022-05-11 13:23:58 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179410030 30116041 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179410477 "And you think you have a special power simply because my uncle thinks you possess a pretty face. But that's not power. it's a liability". 

This quote shows how pretty women have an affect on how men perceive them and how they are seen as someone "superior"? 


]]> 2022-05-11 13:24:13 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179410477 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179411936 "You're a woman. Can you do anything you want? Even if it upsets your family?" (136).

I believe this quote is enforcing gender norms because here Francis is implying that Noemi should make decisions based on how happy it would make her family feel, rather than how she feels about it.]]> 2022-05-11 13:25:01 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179411936 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179413162 “She had misplaced the matching bolero jacket and really she ought to have been wearing white gloves with it, but their location being what it was, it was not as if a little faux pas like that would be noticed and make it into the society pages.” This quote supports the gender roles implemented by society. It kind of sheds a light of how Noemí’s life used to be like before she arrive at High Place.



]]> 2022-05-11 13:25:44 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179413162 30116041 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179418811 "You won't bid me goodnight? he asked amused. Nor grant me a thank-you? It would one rude not to". 


I think this quote shows how a male during this time would expect something in return even if it's a simple thank you]]> 2022-05-11 13:28:41 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179418811 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179419066 "If you give me a rag and some polish I will do it" P: 113

In this case the author is reinforcing the gender role that the woman clean the house. ]]> 2022-05-11 13:28:50 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179419066 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179437784 “You look very fine in my clothes, he said with that voice that was made of silk. The comment was mildly inappropriate. In the daylight, with other people, it might have been a joke. At night, and the way he said it, it didn’t seem at all decent. And yet, thought subtly wrong, she found herself unable to reply.  …But she didn’t say a thing, because it wasn’t really that bad of a comment, a few words, and she didn’t wish to start a fight in the middle of a dark hallway over what amounted to almost, but not quite, nothing.”

This conversation shows us the roles that gender plays in this book. The reasoning that she didn’t say anything back was so they wouldn’t start fighting. This shows how much Virgil and the rest of the family have brought her down to a more “traditional woman”.]]> 2022-05-11 13:38:59 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179437784 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179438955 "Once upon a time there was a princess in a tower, once upon a time a prince saved the girl from the tower. Noemi sat on the bed and contemplated the notion of enchantments that are never broken"
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This quote is Noemi reminiscing on her past and the fairy tales she's been told, where the woman is the one locked away and the man is the one who saves her. However, in this context, she seems to be associating Francis as the woman who is locked away in a tower, and herself as the handsome prince charming, coming to save him. This is because Noemi is telling Francis about the outside world, and he seems nervous but intrigued, but Florence has told Noemi to "Let Francis be. He's accepted his lot in this life. It's easier that way." So, the author is turning the old way of story telling on it's head.]]> 2022-05-11 13:39:40 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179438955 dianamartinezrasekh https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179507787 Did Howard really hire a doctor or did he want these people to die? Did the epidemic make Howard try to preserve his race via his family? Did the Doyles' wives deaths cause Howard to change? Could Aurelio's death be related to High House?

]]> 2022-05-11 14:17:44 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179507787 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179508175 2022-05-11 14:17:57 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179508175 3008792 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179508673 What does Marta's character represent?
Is the golden woman trying to help Noemi?
How is the golden woman connected to what the Doyle's have done to their land?
How is Noemi's rash on her wrist symbolic of her stay at High House?]]> 2022-05-11 14:18:11 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179508673 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179517231 1. Is Noemi related to Ruth in anyway? 
2. How does Howard change after the death of his wives?
3. Why did Noemi start sleepwalking again?
4. Why does Noemi have a rash?]]> 2022-05-11 14:22:51 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179517231 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179519011 Why did Howard Doyle do that to Ruth?]]> 2022-05-11 14:23:53 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179519011 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179520537 1) What is the symbolistic importance of the rash?
2) What was the source of the miner's sickness, and could it be more important than it seems?
3) If we assume Ruth is a ghost, are her victims ghosts? What about the dead miners?
4) If Ruth is the woman who said "open yer eyes", is Florence the "golden woman"?]]> 2022-05-11 14:24:46 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179520537 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179520926 2022-05-11 14:25:00 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179520926 https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179522846 What do you think would change if Benito came back?

Could Marta be witholding any information ?

Do you think that Ruth or Benito is trying to communicate with Noemí through her dreams?

What does the rash in Noemí’s arm represent in the story?]]> 2022-05-11 14:26:10 UTC https://padlet.com/dianamartinezrasekh/3x4empwup0wxhrnp/wish/2179522846