4th Period AP Gov Seminar by Tori Ammons

Abdul Ibrahim

2017-09-22 18:40:49 UTC

Knowledge should be on the top of the list because of the fact that you wouldn't want someone who doesn't know anything about the topic coming to the meeting, you're wasting a seat. Someone who could be highly knowledgeable in the topic you're speaking about would be better to have there just so they can give input, give you the pros and cons about the topic, rather then having someone that's just sitting there listening to the conversation and not being able to give you feedback.

Oscar Bravo

2017-09-22 18:40:52 UTC

I feel that knowledge should be in the higher part because of its importance and also because the better you are educated, the better understanding you can have behind certain topics. The framers did want knowledgeable people because they stated in the beginning that the common person should not have the right to vote. Experience should in my opinion, be ranked about 4th because everyone comes into a new job without experience but as time goes by they start getting a better understanding of what they are doing and I feel as if everyone should get a equal chance. Dawson has a point in why Duty was ranked towards the bottom of the list.

Gracie Andersen

2017-09-22 18:41:05 UTC

I believe that knowledge should come higher on this list and agree with August, Knowledge plays a part in knowing and being aware of corruption within our government.

Knowledge also plays a part in understanding where people come from. Knowing where people come from and acknowledging the difference being a good thing within democracy kind of ties equality and knowledge together in this article.

I think that elected officials can make good decisions in the right place and time but seminars could get better results.

I think they should pay more attention to the people that voted them in but also use the knowledge that got them elected in the first place to make educated decisions without having to have the opinions of everybody who voted them in, the elected officials should know what their people would want.

I think over all that knowledge and equality could almost tie for first. they can tie together in important ways.

Hannah Mayers

2017-09-22 18:43:02 UTC

I believe knowledge should be on the top of the list because knowledge is important to make difficult decisions or solutions or to even make a compromise. You'd have to now what you are talking about and understand everyone's inputs

I feel officials should talk with each other and make compromises but they should also listen to the people and see what they feel is important to work on and make knowledgeable decisions based on what they hear from the people and officials.

Nhi Nguyen

2017-09-22 18:43:58 UTC

I think the knowledge play important roles, should be put in the higher part. Knowledge helps you understand deeply the issue while discussing. Also, if you don't have any knowledge about the problem you are discussing and how you find yourself among the people?
I think the experience should be in the second. Because if you are sitting in the democracy dinner, you have more experiences you can bring more out than you might, easier to talk, to give your thinking to discuss.
Duty is also important to me.

Gillian Lane

2017-09-22 18:44:08 UTC

I believe that knowledge is important when having to do with structure and decision making, but not as important as experience so the decisions made, comes from first hand experience

I think the experience should be higher on the list, especially when talking about the dinner party situation. When one has experience about a certain topic, its easier to understand different viewpoints of others and see their reasoning, instead of ones who may have only heard about that specific topic.

Leigha Robins

2017-09-22 18:47:41 UTC

Knowledge plays a role because the more educated you are, the better you're able to form your opinions and better relate to others. In order to form an educated decision for a group of people, you need to be knowledgeable enough to represent them in the right way.

I feel that people do make decisions better with less pressure to represent others, so this conversation was easier.

Experience, to me was the experiences a person has gone though, and they shape who you are, and what opinions you agree with. Experience really shapes politics, because it shapes your whole life. I placed it on the top of my list.

Duty wasn't very important to me, not so much in this reading because they had opinions other than their jobs. What you do in life doesn't always shape who you are or what comes to you.

Emily Houck

2017-09-22 18:48:32 UTC

Knowledge is important and should come higher because having knowledge helps you become more engaged in conversations. Having discussions and talking with all types of different people also helps you gain new knowledge and different opinions on things you've never thought about.

Justin J. Chase

chasejus001 — 2017-09-22 18:49:14 UTC

The framers defiantly wanted knowledgeable people in office. The age requirement to be president, the electoral college, and the power of the legislative, all show the degree to which the framers will go to prevent mob rule, and therefore, prevent the uneducated from affecting the country. Moreover, there is nothing in the Constitution about voters rights. There is nothing in the Constitution keeping states from restricting voting to the educated, this is not on accident.

I personally believe that equality should be over knowledge, because some do not have the ability to gain the knowledge some would consider essential.

My list is as follows:
Equality
Knowledge
Experience
History
Duty

Equality is essential to dialogue. It is a necessity to people feeling listened to, and for the discussion to have a variety of opinions.

Knowledge is a valuable research for understanding, but people must not be excluded because of their status or perceived status.

Experience is important, as it shows both specific knowledge, and a real understanding of history. Experience is not as important as knowledge itself, but in my opinion is above history.

History shows how present events may play out. it is a good thing to consider, but peoples equality should be protected

Duty can be blinding and biased. people should focus on their knowledge and experience instead.

Roman Abeyta

2017-09-22 18:50:07 UTC

Yea the Framers wanted knowledgeable people. That was the reason why the "common person" wasn't able to vote at the beginning, because they didn't have the knowledge to make choices that would be good for everyone.

It should be 50/50 when it comes to listening to the people and making compromise. People can have mob mentality which could do terrible things, while a single person in said mob would have a different thought. Compromise needs to be a part of government but nothing would get done because people will always think differently than the person next to them.

Jasmine Revely

2017-09-22 18:52:21 UTC

I believe that knowledge should come higher on the list above equality because when the Framers were discussing that the "common people" shouldn't be able to vote is because they think that people who don't have the right information and the right mind set shouldn't be making the extremely important choices. Having Knowledge also helps you understand the issue more in depth.

Madison Mateer

2017-09-22 18:58:13 UTC

experience should be towards the top of the list because everyone has different life experiences that bring new topics and perspectives into the conversation

Emily Bartholomew

2017-09-25 19:07:53 UTC

I believe that knowledge should be on the top of the list next to equality, because you need to know whats your getting yourself into. You don't want somebody that doesn't know anything about the government/democracy to taking over the countries government.

Also, Equality should be on the top because in the article it talks a lot about people opinions from different parts of the country with different levels of government in their past. It wasn't the same person with all the same level of government talking about democracy, the dinner had all types of government background like a church official, Lawyers, and Politicians.

I think Duty and experience should be lower in the list because not everyone has the same opportunity to go and quit their day job and go out and start a campaign, because it take a lot of money to start campaign. While for duty it kind of ties with why people can't do the experience, people don't have the opportunities it take up time for people a campaign or the money.

I follow what Gracie said about the amount of experience a person should have to be a politician. I don't think that you need to have a whole bunch of degrees to be a politician, but you need to know the basic things about government and whats been going on in the world recently. But looking at our president know Trump doesn't have a background in politics or government, he has a background in business and which knowing that he doesn't have a background in government i think its nice that we have outsiders in the government, but I would like that they have a knowledge in government.

Guy Adamo

2017-09-25 19:08:02 UTC

Equality is on the top of the list mostly because the article talks about equality a lot. The point of the "dinner for democracy" thing was for a bunch of people to meet and discuss things as equals. I think we all have power in our democracy, it doesnt come through individual power but group power. Like during an election if a lot of people vote for a candidate that candidate will win.

I dont think electing representatives that come from different ethnic groups or religions will really change anything. What will change it is recognizing and compromising with the other side. In the end it will be the same, only working to be reelected by a group of people, because really representatives have to represent the people who elected them and if they don't they probably wont be elected again. If the representative is elected by people who don't want to compromise with the other party, the representative will not compromise and if they do they'll be out of the job.

Emily Melnik

2017-09-25 19:08:04 UTC

This article mentions "equality of opportunity" which isn't necessarily equality for all because of its lack of guarantee of the possibility.

The model of the "Dinner with Democracy" is a great example of how our government should view society. Everyone has their own differences in knowledge, career, background, life, and this should be left behind when choices need to be made and actions taken. Along the lines of what Justin said, it isn't just the Governments fault, most people vote or want what helps them and whats beneficial to them, there isn't enough of what happened at this "Dinner with Democracy" where people left behind their life and what they know and came together to find out about other values and others knowledge just as people trying to understand and actually listen to differing points of view. in the article, the author said something along the lines of "our government needs to come together not only when the pressure of making a decision is upon them, but just to communicate" like what was happening during these sessions.

Samantha Goedde

2017-09-25 19:08:26 UTC

I personally think equality is really important to the article because everyone has equal opportunities and fairness.

I think democracy would change on the level of equality because the peoples' rights would change.

My personal list:
-Equality
-Knowledge
-Experience
-History
-Duty

I put knowledge on the top of my list because I think it's important for people who want to work in the government have to have knowledge of government and politics to know what's going on.

Open minded groups are important as well because people need to express their own opinions.

I put experience in the middle of my list because people who want to become a politician need to have experiences of talking in front of people.

April Talaiga

2017-09-25 19:08:28 UTC

I think equality is important because everyone in this world should be equal. People don't really have equality out here in the real world because some people are richer than others, there is a class in this society, a lower middle and high.

I feel like there is an influence as to how people are equal. Some people think that they should have more than someone else. People want to have more than what another has which is why there isn't much equality here in this society.

This society is lacking the sense of being open minded and being open to different ideas around. I think having more races, religion and other people in the government than just a white man making decisions for everyone. There will be a lot more ideas as to how to run things because its not only white people its other races too. Although, it will be difficult to have many different point of views there is always a solution to something. Many decisions can come to having different kinds of point of view around and I think having different races involved in the government would be a lot better than just having a white men.

I think all the elements of knowing the history, experience, duty, equality, knowledge, etc all play a part of building a stronger government.

Reggie Warren

warrereg000 — 2017-09-25 19:08:32 UTC

I believe equality plays a big part within the "Dinner with Democracy," text because the speaker is able to get perspectives and responses when the guests talk as equals, allowing much greater communication. When you speak as equals you are able to hear opinions without as much bias nor titles or positions along with the person and their answer. I believe equality should be on top because with that because it is easier to get more opinion and more decisions with it, instead of having someone of higher position decide for the larger group.

Although equality might not always happen and occur in many situations, I believe it is a good idea. It cannot always be promised or agreed among people and their lives, especially among people of higher hierarchy.

I believe being a more open-minded group would prove to allow more ideas and better understanding and perspectives of others ideas. And how that may compare or contrast with yours. You could be able to reach a compromise or make a more rational decision on certain topics.

Alondra Camacho

2017-09-25 19:09:14 UTC

In this article, I felt like the people involved saw each other as equal. This made communication easy. They were able to listen to each other without someone overpowering.

Caitlyn McCollum

2017-09-25 19:09:24 UTC

I think equality is the most-related word because the main point that I took away from the reading was that democracy should be altered to the point where everyone is on a level playing field.

Yes, all the other words have some type of application to the reading, but equality is most applicable in my opinion.

I think that knowledge is the second most important word because to have an opinion, which everybody at the dinner did, you usually have to have some type of knowledge to form that opinion.

August Bruno

brunoaug000 — 2017-09-25 19:09:35 UTC

Equality is, for me, the most important point that the article "Dinner with Democracy" makes. I agree with Justin when he says that valuing knowledge, or experience, over equality may lead to inequality and a social class system. The point of the dinner was to bring together different people from varying backgrounds and discuss democracy, in a setting where no one individual held any more knowledge or power than another. This is an ideal form of equality. However, equality of opportunity is not something we all share in real life. Where you were born, what you were born into, and what resources you may access vary from person to person. This is why, I believe, "Dinner with Democracy" stresses equality so much, because the ideal equality it presents is something we're missing.

Even so, I don't believe we'll ever have as much equality as the article depicts. Equality can, as well, be dangerous, as the framers pointed out so early on, establishing the Electoral College as a result. Knowledge, they argued, was needed in order to properly contribute to their new government. I agree with this point, and this is why I ranked knowledge so closely behind equality. At the same time though, people from all walks of life are what made the Dinner with Democracy possible. Not having supreme knowledge is what enabled them to come together and discuss democracy as they did. Too much experience/knowledge can also lead to the same type of people being elected over and over again, leaving no room for new blood in the political sphere. Though it can be a fine line to walk allowing outsiders in, having that "foreign" input may change our government for the better. Then again, maybe not, but striving for equal opportunity is one of the points of democracy and our nation.

Meggie Dakan

2017-09-25 19:09:52 UTC

Equality plays a big part in "Dinner With democracy" because the basis of the meetings was to get people together to share their thoughts, with no single persons views having more importance than another. On page 13 it says "We were able to create a little political community in which we were all created equal" . Everyone was able to share their views without a fear of judgement because all members are viewed equally within the meeting. because of this, equality is, to me, the most important point in the article.

I don't think that the world can ever have as much equality as the ideal created in "Dinner With Democracy" because there is no way to expose everyone to see and appreciate each others differences, and there is no way to make sure that everyone has the exact same background and lifestyle; and because of that one person will always have at least a slight advantage over another.

I think if we had more representation for different groups in big government, it would expose people to different types of people to help them become more open minded at least and hopefully learn to respect others more so and help come to more compromises.

Dawson Orcutt

2017-09-25 19:10:03 UTC

Equality is important but not as important as experience. But equal opportunity is very important but like Justin and max said it creates the wealth and class gap when you have over equality.
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This should be the goal. But we must remember not to hold back those who succeed, just assist those who do not.
Compromise is crucial to a democratic society. but its sad that it takes a hurricane to make us come together. Lets not pretend like its hard to say we should help people hit by a hurricane.
Its true that the white man rules the government right now and we should get more diversity in our policy makers. But experience limits diversity.
Experience < Intelligence

Felix Chen

2017-09-25 19:10:18 UTC

I believe equality was the most important thing about Dinner with Democracy because if they weren't all treating each other equally they wouldn't been able to full on engage in a conversation about democracy. They were able to understand each others points of views and were able to converse with each other because of equality.

Haylee Hooper

2017-09-25 19:10:18 UTC

Cynthia Farrar brought up the point that that representatives would only talk for themselves and not speak for the people who voted them in. If these reps. don't take in consideration other peoples needs this causes no advancement in the future and may even cause more problems down the road. many representatives now only do what it takes to get voted back which is definitely not okay.

Judhveer S Nagra

2017-09-25 19:15:50 UTC

I think equality is the main thing in "Dinner with Democracy" because the author is able to see the opinions and perspectives of ordinary people, townsmen/women, etc. The dinner helped bring people to together, this dinner allowed people to express there views where they ordinarily wouldn't be able to, everyone listened and was treated equality. Equality was expressed very thoroughly in this article and readers can see that all throughout this article. I agree with what Ms. Ammons and Max said, they made very knowledgeable info about equality.

Gillian Lane

2017-10-20 18:56:36 UTC

I think a persons background and how they grew up, will help determine whether you believe that voting is important or not, just like the comparison between article #1, and article #2