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      <title>Modified Socratic Seminar: The Forum - Group 2 by </title>
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      <description>Session 1: 24 - 27 March
Session 2: 30 March - 3 April</description>
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      <pubDate>2020-03-24 09:17:25 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>How can we define art?</title>
         <author>eleamapola</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I believe that art is not just the final product that will hang, or sit in an exhibition. Art is all the steps leading to that. The idea, the thinking, the performance. For example with Comedian (the banana in the museum), what made it art, is all the attention it got, the social media focus, the reposting, the artists' responses. All  that made it art and not the banana itself. The video made "The art assignment" on Youtube explains this very well, saying, in fact, that "the artwork isn't just the banana, and neither is it the certificate of authenticity really, it's all of us! It's those who flock to see it, our response to it, our memes, the press, this video!". Many other artworks from other artists where also created, not by the actual physical object, but everything going on around it. For example, the scandal created by one of Paul McCarthy's artworks in 2014. At the beginning, people thought it was just an ordinary Christmas tree that had been inflated in the Place Vendome in Paris. and people didn't pay much attention to it. But after discussion with the artist, it was discovered that the giant inflated triangle wasn't a conifer, but a butt plug (sex toy). After that, the artwork began getting serious attention from the media and the public. And we can see, here too, the public's attention played a big rôle in making it art.<br><br>https://time.com/3525271/parisian-sex-toy-christmas-tree-butt-plug/<br><br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-24 10:53:27 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Should schools encourage their students to create art?</title>
         <author>eleamapola</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I think that schools should promote any artistic expression from students. Blocking that would result in the upbringing of very similar human beings, which shouldn't be what we want. An example of this, is that when I was younger, I would draw a lot, and anything. But then I started going to school, and my mom noticed me changing my drawing style. I would now use yellow for the sun, green for the grass, light pink for the skin (I wasn't doing that before). She also noticed that I stared drawing the sun in the corner (like all the other kids). Looking back, I see that my drawings got so much less interesting, and that is because the teacher would tell us what to do and what not to do, instead of letting us draw freely what we wanted. My personal experience can be linked to many studies and speeches done about how schools "kill" creativity. A TED talked made by Sir Ken Robinson speaks about this particular subject. He says that "young kids aren't afraid of being wrong. but adults are. And that fear of being wrong is given by all those teachers saying what you shoudn't be doing. And the result is that we are educating people out of their creative capacities". Picasso also once talked about it, he said: "All children are born artists. The problem is to remain an artist as we grow up". Therefore, I think this is why it is extremely important that school do, in fact encourage their students to create art.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-24 10:57:13 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>I agree with you Elea, on the fact that art is not only a product, an object exhibited in a museum, but it is the combination of all the stages that have participated in its creation and its fame. And I think the most important stage is when the artist creates his work. Indeed, I think that art reflects the soul of its creator. In fact, I read the book &quot;Year of Yes&quot; by Shonda Rhimes, an American director, producer and screenwriter, known in particular for her series Grey&#39;s Anatomy. In this book, the author teaches us more about her, her daily life, and reveals her passion for writing, as well as her overflowing imagination, which allows her to create characters, each one more amazing than the other. She writes: “This is who Cristina was, a piece of my soul [...] placed on television.” In this quote, Shonda Rhimes explains that Cristina, one of the main characters of Grey’s Anatomy, is a piece of her soul, a part of herself, without she cannot live. Her characters, each constituting a part of herself, therefore reflect who she is, her personality, her qualities, her defects, her soul.               Each work of art is, therefore, a piece of the artist&#39;s soul. When you are in front of one of them, you are in front of the reflection of its creator, and you can guess his or her personality, imagine what he or she looks like. </title>
         <author>manongutt75</author>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-24 11:09:16 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>How does one become an artiste ?                                          I think that we become an artist when we manage to give life and meaning to something that doesn’t have any. In Shonda Rhimes’ book, “Year of Yes”, she describes her characters, tells us more about them, and how she creates them. She writes: “Characters may begin with the words I put on papers.” In her TV shows, through her characters, she gives life and true meaning to the words she writes. I&#39;m also going to rely on the &quot;Comedian&quot; artwork, consisting of a banana duct-taped to the wall. When we arrive in front of this work, our first reaction is to say to ourselves that it is not art and that we don&#39;t need to be an artist to make the same work. But the creator of &quot;Comedian&quot;, Maurizio Cattelan, is a real artist. Indeed, he has succeeded in transforming a common object, a banana, into a unique work of art with a meaning. This banana offers us a complex reflection of ourselves and our society. It can be interpreted as a symbol of world trade, but also as a symbol of the superficiality of our society. When the banana rots, the artwork has an even stronger message, to make us realize that our society is damaged, moldy, corrupt.So I think you become an artist when you can give life and meaning to something that doesn&#39;t have any. Shonda Rhimes did it, giving life and meaning to her words through the mouths of her serial characters, and Maurizio Cattelan did it, giving a meaning and a story to that duct-taped banana.           </title>
         <author>manongutt75</author>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-24 11:30:59 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>I agree with you, Elea, that it is essential that schools encourage children to develop their own creativity. But I think that their art, although personal, will always be influenced by what surrounds them, especially society. Indeed, I think that art is always a reflection of the society in which it was created, because, in his art, an artist will depict who he is, and what he has inside himself. And what he exhibits in his art - his personal experiences, his feelings or his opinions - have all been shaped by the society in which he lives. Thus, the art of Banksy, the anonymous street artist, reflects today&#39;s society. The personal experiences he has had in the past are the result of the actions of society. Indeed, Banksy has traveled to countries at war, where men were fighting among themselves, testifying to the violence of our society and its inability to resolve disagreements without fighting. War and violence, Banksy depicted it through his graffiti, as for example in &quot;Bomb Hugger&quot;. The mural shows a young girl stenciled in black and white on a bubblegum pink background, hugging a bomb ready to explode to her chest, as if it were a cuddly toy. The piece symbolizes the horror of war next to the fragility and innocence of the young girl. Through this work, he also exposes his feelings and opinions. Banksy is against war and is revolted that we dare to subject children to such horrors and cruelty. Art is, therefore, in my opinion, always a reflection of the society in which it was created. The artist is indeed subject to the actions and effects of society, which therefore reappear in his art.  </title>
         <author>manongutt75</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>"Bomb Hugger", Banksy, 2003</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-24 15:16:48 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>What role does art play in society?</title>
         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>	Art has the role (among others) to keep us united through Shared Experience. The creation of art is a collective activity.  <br>	Banksy's art rose to fame because it touched and stirred society. Reciprocally Banksy created his artwork to change and improve society. Art and Society mutually support each other.<br>The existence of art requires an artist or a group of artists and an audience. Every form of art (dance, theatre, choir, painting...) need these elements. As such, we are all involved in the creation of art. Even the lone poet relies upon the craft of the book-binder to write his verses. Art offers us a reason to come together and share in an experience. Banksy did it and ultimately proves that we need art to keep us connected.<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-25 19:56:19 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>What is the purpose of art? </title>
         <author>gigibabic</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div> I think art is meant to be a personal, intimate outlet for artists. Everyone goes through traumatic events in life, artists deal with those events by creating art. This doesn’t mean that they must have experienced trauma. It means that most of them that do, express their pain through art. For example, I found <strong>Femme In Public (2017)</strong>, a poetry collection by genderfluid writer Alok Vaid-Menon. In this book, they explore how the world would be without anti-trans violence. They have several poems on how they deal with the repercussions of being trans in today’s society. In a way, they deal with their feelings and make sense of them by writing them down. This doesn’t mean that the trauma is what causes the art, but it’s the art that helps the trauma. This method of self-expression is almost therapeutic.</div><div> </div><div>But there is science behind it too. The theory that the purpose of art is to help the artist is also explained by science. Art therapy is a common treatment for anxiety and pain in hospitals. In an article for Psychology Today entitled <strong>Art Therapy</strong>, they explain how “art therapy helps children, adolescents, and adults explore their emotions, improve self-esteem, manage addictions, relieve stress, improve symptoms of anxiety and depression, and cope with a physical illness or disability.” This means that it has been proven that art helps deal with trauma, furthering my belief that art is meant, most times, for self-expression and is destined to help the artist deal with their feelings. It is only normal that people who enjoy art already, express that anxiety and trauma through art. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-26 14:35:56 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Can one become an artist without having experienced great suffering or struggles in life? Why or why not?</title>
         <author>eleamapola</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I believe that we do not need to experience great suffering, struggles or traumatic experiences in life to become an artist. Art can come out of sadness, but also out of any other emotion, like happiness. For example the artworks of David Hockney. He is a British painter, draftsman, printmaker, stage designer, and photographer. He is considered one of the most influential British artists of the 20th century. Up till now he has experienced a pretty confortable life which doesn't make him less of an artist in any way. He became an artist because he enjoyed creating things and "took pride in his work". Therefore, this counter-example shows us that one can definitely become an artist without having experienced great suffering or struggles in life.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-26 20:03:29 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>What is the purpose of art? </title>
         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I also believe that art has healing qualities, Lucia.  I think that another purpose of art (among others of course) is to tell our story. Pablo Picasso is a famous and controversial artist that you cannot keep out of discussions about art.  "Guernica" is one of the many engaged and story-telling paintings that he accomplished.  In 1937, the city of Guernica was bombarded by German and Italian warplanes killing many innocent people. The Government requested Picasso to create a painting about the bombings and distress of people.  In this artwork, Picasso depicts the sufferings of living creatures caused by the heavy attacks. Art records history, it teaches us history lessons, it narrates autobiographies and contributes to the preservation of culture all in one.  Art registers experiences and events to allows us to gain a richer and deeper understanding of the past. Art reflects opinions, values, identity, and beliefs. Art chronicles our own stories and experiences over time. Art such as the "Guernica" is essential to comprehend and to share our individual and collective history. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-26 20:08:55 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Can anyone become an artist? </title>
         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Yes, I believe that anyone can become an artist, regardless of their creativity or talent. Henri Duchamp (1887-1968) was a French-American artist. Duchamp is generally regarded, along with Picasso and Matisse, as one of the three great artists who contributed to define arts in the opening decades of the 20th century. During “An interview with Marcel Duchamp”, he said: <em>"Who is an artist? Anyone who says he is? Duchamp laughed good-naturedly: ‘Nowadays I suppose the answer would have to be, </em><strong><em>Yes</em></strong><em>. It is hard to define, but we know what we mean. In a way, the artist is no longer an artist. ' " </em>Duchamp believes that the requirements to become an artist have changed through time and that today, everyone can become an artist. Indeed, our current society's conventional understanding of artists implies that an artist is simply someone who makes art. It doesn't matter whether they graduated from an art school or if they are self-taught, whether they are an amateur or a professional, or for which purpose they create art. If they make art, then they are an artist. There are no notions of true or fake, right or wrong when it comes to art. There is only personal judgment and preferences. Therefore, as Duchamp affirmed, I believe that anyone can become an artist.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>How can we judge if art is good or bad?</title>
         <author>antoinelongour</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I think that there isn’t any bad art. The vision of a piece of art is relative to the person. Take the example of Pablo Picasso, I don’t think his art is good but critiques from all around the world say its one of the best in the world. Why that? People tend to evaluate art under three characteristics:</div><ul><li>Technical skill</li><li>Composition</li><li>Content</li></ul><div>The first time critiques see an art piece they look if the technique is mastered? Is it realistic? Is the art composed awkwardly? What’s the artist’s message? Does the message get through this work of art? But I want to propose you guys another way of defining art. How I define good art is simple. I ask myself one question. Does it make me move and make me feel something?</div><div>But after all, there isn’t any “good” or “bad” art. Art is relative to the person.</div><div><br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-27 09:06:50 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Why is art often not valued during the time in which it is created?</title>
         <author>gaspardmoyroud</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Most artists that were not valued during their time, were artists that did not follow the style of writing, singing, painting of the moment. For example, Robert Allen also known as Bob Dylan sang using the folk style which is one of the popular music styles at that time. To compare, Vincent Van Gogh had to change from dutch, dark colors too bright colors because they were more appreciated by people. This is how he started becoming known but he really became popular a few decades after his death. It is very hard to break the style of the time you are in, only very few artists managed to be revolutionary. </div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8yU8wk67gY">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8yU8wk67gY</a></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-27 11:36:11 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>What are the most formative life events for an artist?</title>
         <author>gaspardmoyroud</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>For me, there are no specific events but more a period in life: childhood (from baby to late teenage). It impacts your decisions and your way of thinking, childhood can define what kind of person you will be. To illustrate my opinion, Trevor Noah is the perfect example, he had a hard childhood and was steeped in racism. This inspired him to write many things like the book <em>Born A Crime </em>(his autobiography) or the sketch “Charming Racism”. He lived during the apartheid which is why he was affected by racism. Childhood impacts a lot of people, this the moment where people change, start becoming adults and having their own opinion. </div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnmD0QQxycM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnmD0QQxycM</a></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-27 11:38:35 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Is art always reflection of the society in which it was created?</title>
         <author>gaspardmoyroud</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div> There is a lot of different types of arts. The answer to this question can divers depending on which art you take. But here I am going to use painting to support my answer. No, art does not always reflective of the society in which it was created even though some artists are inspired by society. Some artists like Banksy and his painting “Devolved Parliament” clearly express the way our society works, in this case, how does the parliament works. On the other hand, painting like “The starry night”, by Vincent Van Gogh or “Manneporte seen from below”, by C. Monnet have nothing to do with society. They are both landscapes, one that reflects Vincent Van Gogh’s emotions and the second one, the beauty of nature. Art is not always but can be a reflection of the society in which it is created.<br>+ other 2 paintings  (can't add)<br>"Devolved Parliament", Banksy,2009</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-03-27 11:39:36 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Should school encourage their students to create art?</title>
         <author>antoinelongour</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I think school should encourage their students to create art. Creating art can allow the student to flourish in something he likes because there are so many ways to make art it can be drawing, sculpture, dance, painting… I think it should be as important as other subjects. Art opens up people’s minds on the world they’re living in. People can see the world they’re living in with a new eye. It may also help people get along. It would give the school’s curriculum this little spark of amusement and wouldn’t be as dark and dull as it is now. It’s always more fun to learn in joy.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>What are the most formative life events for an artist?</title>
         <author>antoinelongour</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>There are no events but the most important time for an artist to “progress” is his childhood/teenage years (10-18 years old). This is where his imagination is going to be developed. In his young years, he’s going to specialize in some type of art that can be painting, music, sculpture, dancing… In his late years, he’s going to have a good image of what the world is and how he can improve it by passing messages through his art. Then when he’s going to enter the “artist life” he’ll have the basics and know what kind of art he’ll want to do.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>What makes an artist?</title>
         <author>gigibabic</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I think what makes an artist is their expression of emotions. Art is not about technique, it’s about emotions. This means that if the artist needs to make art, then they will, and those emotions are what makes it art. <br>In his book Letters to a young poet, Rainer Maria Rilke explains why he writes. He says that you will know if you need to be an artist. “In the deepest hour of the night, confess to yourself that you would die if you were forbidden to write. And look deep into your heart where it spreads its roots, the answer, and ask yourself, must I write?” Therefore, I think to become an artist, you only need the drive to make something beautiful and meaningful to you. <br>In the same book, Rainer Maria Rilke also says: "If, as I have said, one feels one could live without writing, then one shouldn't write at all." For me, this means that if what you are creating doesn't come from a need to create, then it is not worth it. That is because it wouldn't be expressing your emotions. I think what makes an artist is the need to create that he describes. </div>]]></description>
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         <title>What role does art play in society?</title>
         <author>gigibabic</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Among others, art has the role of helping people. Sometimes art can be a way to feel represented and know that others are going through the same things as you. <br>In today’s world, that role is shown largely through television. There are so many shows and movies that portray taboo subjects. Those shows help people know that they are not alone. For example, Tan France is the first gay South-East Asian man on television. His role in the show is much more than just a fashion expert. It helps show that anyone can do anything. I think that’s what makes art so important. He helps young gay South-East Asian people feel represented. He talked about representation in the media in his book, Naturally Tan. He says that he “would have killed” to have something like that as a kid. This helps show that representation does matter and that art (movies, TV shows, books) is formative to a child’s mind. So, art has the role of helping people feel like they are not alone, which helps them to believe in themselves. (The full quote that I referenced earlier is “I would have killed to have that when I was a kid.” p.239)<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <title>How does one become an artist ?</title>
         <author>jeanne5935</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>To me, you become an artist when you are at a point where you decide to put all means into the process of producing and making art, financially but also humanly, … DJ Snake started his career in an apartment, giving himself only a year to succeed on a DJ career making a new releasing a new music every 4 days for months. Being an artist isn’t only about talent and being innovative, it’s also about how much of yourself are you ready to put into working hard. </div>]]></description>
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         <title>Do all people deserve acess to art ?</title>
         <author>jeanne5935</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>All people deserve access to art. From the president to those in jail everyone should be having access to art because art isn’t supposed to belong to someone. We need to have artist from all the social classes, all origins, all gender, … because everyone should be able to identify himself to an artist. It is vital that art is accessible to everyone because it nourishes the diversity of the creations. Otherwise, art would always have been the same style, with the same technic, with the same subject, … Why do we art such diverse types of music? It isn’t only because of the advance in time, it is due to diversity of the artist. For example, the jazz music was born with the Afro-American culture. If only white European people had been allowed to do music, jazz would have never been invented. It is the same for hip-hop that lead to rap. People should have access to art because when you look at the history, letting art belonging to everyone lead to some of the best movement.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>What is the purpose of art ?</title>
         <author>jeanne5935</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Art is a unique creation from one’s mind &amp; imagination for what transmitting emotions, a message, … is the purpose. Bob Dylan didn’t want to do music to do music, he wanted to transmit feelings or a message to his public through his art: music. To me art as to be meaningful, not especially about something deep, but more about a statement. You can do art about how blue is the best colour ever, or about why using metal straws isn’t going to help the turtles, … It is art when people have made a reflexion or have felt emotions because of what you have made or created. <br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <author>manongutt75</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Elea's question, "Would this mean that the artist wouldn't exist without his works? is a profound reflection on my argument. It allowed me to think about it in turn, and to think more precisely about the role that an artist's works have on his person. Here is my opinion:</div><div>The human being in himself would exist, but his artistic soul would disappear if he didn't exploit it by creating works of art. Indeed, I think that a person who is destined to be an artist born with an artist's soul. During his life, he will have to cultivate and enrich this soul, by developing an artistic technique for example, through which he will be able to express who he is. In the end, his art will be his passion, and his reason for living. Thus, during her childhood, Shonda Rhimes cultivated and enriched her artistic soul, by developing her imagination, and creating stories with her toys. Thanks to this, she could later define the way she could transmit to others who she is: by creating characters in her own image in her series. Shonda Rhimes has therefore exploited her artistic soul by creating her art, i.e. by inventing numerous series, and by creating characters all different from each other. If she had neglected this artist's soul, it would have disappeared. </div>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>The second question Elea asked me ("What about the people who are not artists, and who haven't created anything in their life, are they not existing?"), related to the first, made me think about how artists live, and how they include their art in their lives. Here is the answer I propose:</div><div>People who are not artists, who have not created anything in their lives, exist of course, but not in the same way as an artist. Indeed, I think that an artist will exist through his works, not that he will disappear behind them, but that they will allow him to get to know himself better, and thus make his place in society. To take the example of Shonda Rhimes, this artist reveals herself through her serial characters, allowing her to get to know herself better by watching her characters play. By getting to know herself better, she is able to define the role she should play in the world she lives in, such as that of being a mother, and learns to know her needs. For example, Shonda Rhimes created Cristina Yang, a girl from the series Grey's Anatomy, who does not want to get married like Shonda. Through this character, Shonda discovered that part of herself that doesn't want to get married. She thus knew that a life as a couple would not make her happy.</div><div>People who are not artists will, for their part, get to know themselves and find their place in society in other ways. Through, for example, their friends or family, who will point out their qualities and faults, and help them choose a profession or make decisions based on what best suits their personality. They will also carry out internships in different fields of work, in order to find the one that suits them, and define what they like and dislike.  </div><div>People who are not artists therefore exist, but not in the same way as artists, who will get to know themselves and make a place for themselves in society thanks to their art, which will give them an image of their personality; whereas non-artists will need their environment and their personal experiences to get to know themselves better, and to exist in the world in which they live. </div><div><br></div>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>In answering your questions Diane, which are "You believe that art is always a reflection of the society in which it was created. How would you then consider art that is ahead of time? Is it still a reflection of the actual society? If yes, to what extent? ", I will use my definition of "art that is ahead of time", which is as follows: An art that is ahead of its time is an art that does not adopt the artistic characteristics and techniques of its time to adopt another technique, specific to the artist. This is my answer: </div><div>An art that is ahead of its time, although it does not adopt the artistic techniques and characteristics of its time, is in any case created in the time in which the artist lives. As I stated in my commentary, I think that in his art, an artist will depict who he is, and what he has inside himself, as his personal experiences, his feelings or his opinions, which have all been shaped by the society in which he lives. So the Dutch artist Van Gogh was an artist ahead of his time. He created his artworks using his own techniques, denying the artistic standards of the time. Instead of using the fine pencils and brushes used at the time, he used rather frustrating tools such as the knife, chalk or reed, which left the features as they were, with (as he explained in a letter to Emile Bernard in April 1888) "their impasto, their uncovered areas, their repetitions, their brutalities". His strokes are broad, rough, discontinuous, nervous. But it is this irregularity in his features that brings out the emotion in his work. His painting "Red Vineyards at Arles" bears witness to this. Thus, the vines have been painted with quick and not precise, sometimes thick touches of paint. These effective touches of paint move the viewer by their simplicity and beauty, mixed with a certain brutality that underlines the passing of time, and the need to realize this work quickly because the painted spectacle is ephemeral.</div><div>This painting, in addition to being proof that Van Gogh was an artist ahead of his time, also testifies to the fact that the art of an artist, even ahead of his time, is a reflection of the society in which he lives. The painting "Red Vineyards at Arles" depicts people harvesting grapes. Behind a cart pulled by a donkey can be seen. Thus, Van Gogh represented here an activity, a profession of the society of his time, which he observed and experienced. An artist today would not represent the same landscape, because society has evolved. Machines take care of harvesting and transport, replacing the carts of the past.</div><div>The art of an artist, even ahead of his time, is therefore a reflection of the society in which he lives.            <br><em>"Red Vineyards at Arles", Van Gogh</em> </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-04-03 07:24:41 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I disagree with you, Gaspard and Antoine, that childhood is the most important, the most fundamental period for an artist. In my opinion, the whole life of an artist is fundamental. Indeed, each moment of an artist's life will make him grow in wisdom and maturity, and thus participate in the deepening of his art. Thus, for Rembrandt, his entire life was fundamental. During his childhood in the Netherlands in a large family, he learned to build friendships, to define his tastes, such as his passion for painting and art, and to have a first opinion about the world of his time. This childhood period was a crucial step in laying the first foundations of his art. But his adult life also played a big role. Indeed, Rembrandt entered the world of work, and had to earn a living somehow. This taught him how to overcome financial difficulties. Then he met his wife Saskia van Uylenburgh and started a family. These events in his adult life are reflected in his paintings. For example, Rembrandt painted many portraits of his wife Saskia, as well as his son, Titus. He learned the love for a woman, and the joy of family. But he also learned not to be discouraged, especially after the death of some of his children. This pain is evident in his paintings, as in some of the portraits of Saskia painted after this tragic event, in which she has a pale face and a sad smile. The whole life is therefore fundamental to an artist and his art. Every period and every moment of her life will teach her something, which will later resurface in her art.    </div><div><em>Saskia's portrait, Rembrandt </em></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-04-03 07:28:48 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Your question Elea, which was: "What about something that already has life? What about creating art from things that are going on in the world, things that already have "life and meaning"? is very sophisticated and smart, because it offers me to think about my argument (we become an artist when we manage to give life and meaning to something that doesn't have any) from another angle. Here is my answer: </div><div>Indeed, an artist can be inspired by things that already have a life, a story and a meaning to make his works, but even by being inspired, by representing something that already has one, he will always give life and meaning to something that doesn't have any. To take Banksy's example, this artist first of all gives life and meaning to his stencils, to the paint and colours he uses to create his work, which at first have none. Thus, by creating his fresco "Beach Boys" on the Israeli-Palestinian wall that served as his support, he gave meaning to the paint and the colours he used, giving them a purpose, for example to convey an idea, a feeling. In this work, the yellow colour of the bucket conveys a feeling of joy and cheerfulness, in the middle of the two little boys drawn in grey. Secondly, he gives life to his opinions and ideas by representing them through his works. For example, by creating his artwork "The Armoured Dove" on the Israeli-Palestinian wall, which features a white dove with its wings out wide in an open arm stance, with an olive branch in its beak. With this mural, Banksy brings to life his opinion that peace between Israel and Palestine is under great threat, and that if it is killed, it will never return.</div><div>An artist will therefore always give life and meaning to something that does not have any, even when inspired by events that already have a life. He will thus give life and meaning to the elements composing his works of art, such as the colours used, as well as to the opinions and ideas conveyed in his works.     <br><br></div><div><em>"Beach boys", Banksy</em> </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-04-03 07:34:21 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Dear Manon, your response to Elea’s questions leads to my reflection. By your example you are explaining (from what I understood) that an artist can be defined by her/his artworks because they are a piece of their soul (S. Rhimes). Do you have to be your artwork to be an artist and for your artwork to be art? I think that you don’t. To me you don’t have to recognize yourself in your artwork because art can also be the theatre of innovation and discovery. Maybe unconsciously what an artist create is a piece of himself but like Richard Prince said in a <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/12/arts/art-is-it-art-is-it-good-and-who-says-so.html">The New York Times article</a> : “ It’s art when it looks as if I know what I’m doing and when doing it makes me feel good. It’s like a good revolution.” To me, your art doesn’t need to be “a piece of your soul” also because it can also be a piece of other people’s soul. As an example, I think that the photographer <a href="http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/myshot/gallery/2931">FAISAL ALMALKI</a> and his photo “<a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/your-faces-of-the-world-photos/">Saudi woman</a>” really reflects my point because through the art, it is also this woman “soul” that is shared. To finish, art doesn’t need to be a representation of the artist and so, that an artist can’t be defined by his/her art.</div>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I also would like to answer Elea's question, which was: <em>"Don't you think that it is not society in general, but what the artists know or has known that shape the art? What if Banksy had never known about any of the wars and violence happening? It would still be in our society, but the artist wouldn't know about it. His art would then be a reflection of what he does know. So can we really say that art is always a reflection of society?"</em></div><div>I agree with you, Elea, that Banksy's art is a reflection of what he knows. But his art is still a reflection of the society in which he lives. Indeed, everything he knows, has seen, and has experienced, has been influenced and shaped by society. I've taken the example of war, but that's true for many others. For example, Banksy created his artwork "God bless Birmingham" in the city of Birmingham, England, on Christmas Eve. This fresco depicts two reindeer flying in the sky, pushing what one would imagine to be a sleigh. But instead of the sleigh, it is a bench, on which a homeless man is lying. Banksy did this work after witnessing the huge number of homeless people in Birmingham on Christmas Eve. Poverty and homelessness in a city exist because of society. Here Banksy wanted to highlight homelessness, and to denounce the fact that the political regime is unable to provide shelter for a homeless person, even on Christmas Eve. But he also wants to highlight the generosity of passers-by who offer him hot chocolate and chocolate bars when they pass him. So Banksy has created a work that is the fruit of what he knows and has seen while walking through the city of Birmingham. But the great poverty and the large number of homeless people he observed is the result of our society. So we can say that an artist's art is a reflection of the society in which he lives. <br><br></div><div><em>"God bless Birmingham", Banksy </em></div>]]></description>
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         <title>Is everything that a human create art?</title>
         <author>jeanne5935</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Automatically I would say no. After reading all our comments and responses I think that there are artworks that I wouldn’t consider as art at first like eating a banana or a banana taped to a wall, but it IS art. What does make a human creation a piece of art? To me, it is the intention behind that creation. It is art if it is made with at the end a purpose other than its purpose. If we stick to the example of the 15,000 $ “Comedian” taped banana, we agree that a banana on itself isn’t art, it’s a fruit and taping a banana on a wall just to tape a banana on a wall isn’t art either. Nevertheless, taping a banana on a wall to represent “how we assign worth and what kind of objects we value”. “Comedian” is an artwork because it was created to be one and not just to be a banana on a wall without any purpose. All human creations aren’t artworks, only those who are destinate to be one or at least who aren’t meant to be used as they should, are artworks.<br><br><a href="https://www.countrylife.co.uk/luxury/art-and-antiques/focus-taped-banana-questioned-meaning-art-209074">https://www.countrylife.co.uk/luxury/art-and-antiques/focus-taped-banana-questioned-meaning-art-209074<br></a><br></div>]]></description>
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         <title>Do we need art to keep us connected?</title>
         <author>jeanne5935</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Dear Diane, I disagree with your statement that “we need art to keep us connected”. To me, art can also divide a nation. We are nowadays facing a new problem about whether we should or shouldn’t let racist art of the colonisation era on some old buildings, schools, … because it makes some people uncomfortable to face ancient racism and some angry about letting those artworks in public because it is considered as acceptance. At the Oriel College in Oxford, UK, there has been a controversy about a Cecil Rhodes statue. The statue of the prime minister of the Cape colony from 1890 to 1896 had already led to student protest in South Africa that ended with the removal of another of his statue. Nevertheless, the Oxford college decided not to remove the statue after a vote with 245 to 212, considered as “incompatible with the “inclusive culture” at the university”. Through this example, we can see that art can also divide by its meaning or what it represents (here white supremacy during colonisation). -https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/jan/28/cecil-rhodes-statue-will-not-be-removed--oxford-universityhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-35435805<br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <author>manongutt75</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I also would like to answer to Diane's two questions, which are "Then what importance do you grant to the final product, which ultimately shares the creator's beliefs and soul to the world? How would you situate the sharing and communicating aspect of art in comparison to the creation stage?". Those questions proved to be very useful because they allowed me to reflect on a stage of art that I hadn't thought about in depth. So I offer this answer: 	</div><div>As I said in my argument, I think it is the creation stage that is the most fundamental, because it is at this stage that the artist is going to give a part of his soul to his art. Moreover, without this stage, there is no work of art.</div><div>But I also attach great importance to the final work of an artist. I believe that it is extremely important, because it is through it that the artist will be able to convey his messages, his feelings, his beliefs, his soul, to the rest of the world. Thus, Shonda Rhimes reveals who she is through her serial characters, to whom she attributes a part of her soul and personality. Moreover, an artist's art can sometimes be, as Lucia rightly said, a way for the artist to overcome a trauma. And for this, he needs courage and perseverance. So I think that the final product is very important, because it is the one that will be the proof of the artist's personality, of his qualities, such as courage, of his faults and feelings.   	</div><div><br></div>]]></description>
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         <title>Is it mandatory to have emotions to pass on to do art?</title>
         <author>jeanne5935</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Thank you, Gaspard, for your comment, it made me think about my approach to art. My response to this is very subjective because it is about my taste and sensibility to a piece of art, but I would answer that no, you don’t need to have to pass emotions on to do art. What I would say is that you must want to pass something to do art. Art requires creativity and no matter the result is if you have something to say it will be heard but the result will have an impact on others and on yourself because you accomplished something. However, I think some arts are always bringing an emotion like floristry is an art and a commodity. It is the art of arranging flowers and I think that those artworks are always bringing something more in the life of someone by offering a bouquet or just enjoying walking in a park. Monet said: “Everyone discusses my art and pretends to understand, as if it were necessary to understand when it is simply necessary to love.” He didn’t paint to transmit anything else but his own pleasure of doing what he loved that was transmitted through his paintings which shows that you don’t need to have to pass emotions to do art and create but through your art, you are transmitting something even without it being voluntary.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>How can school improve to not “kill” the students’ creativity? Because even though they will do art, they will copy each other and will end up having the same art.</title>
         <author>jeanne5935</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Schools can improve to not “kill” the students’ creativity by introducing some class to discover different arts according to their affinities with the different sectors. It would be a normal class that everybody would follow but they would have the choice of which class they want to take. I think that to improve the relation of the students with art schools would mainly need to present a positive aspect of being an artist or any other career that are involved into the process of creating art but in a more natural way than just doing conferences. According to a <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/education-31518717">BBC article</a>between 2003 and 2013, there was a 50% drop in GCSE entries for design and technology. A French magazine named <a href="https://www.futura-sciences.com/sante/actualites/medecine-art-reduit-stress-63208/">Futura Sciences</a> also informs us about a study that measures the amount of cortisol, the stress hormone, in adults’ bodies before and after an artistic activity. In the end, 75% of the persons had a lower rate. Art in schools can also be introduced as a form of well-being. I think that doing theoretical and practical education of art can improve the image that it has in our society nowadays. Art is a necessity for the students to learn how to evolve in different sectors, with different approaches and add to their cultural knowledge but never to constrain the works but to accompany the projects to an art piece. </div>]]></description>
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         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Dear Manon, I will respond to your second question: "Do you think that artists must help their country to gain a "richer and deeper understanding of the past" through their work?". I believe that the artist decides if he wants to help the country and it is no duty. In any case, every artwork is an indicator of the past, therefore artists help their country without being obliged. For example, The <em>Portrait of a Woman, possibly Ginevra d'Antonio Lupari Gozzadini</em> created by Maestro delle Storie del Pane in 1494 displays aspects of the Renaissance. This portrait is full of symbolism referring to the virtues of an ideal marriage during the fifteenth century. The young woman's portrait contains symbols of chastity (the unicorn) and fertility (the rabbits), virtues that were important for a Renaissance woman to possess. After decoding the symbolism in these portraits, we can learn what was important to these people and how they wanted to be remembered. We also can compare artwork, which provides different perspectives, and gives us a well-rounded way of looking at events, situations, and people. By analyzing artworks from the past and looking at their details, we can rewind time and experience what a period different from our own was like. Looking at art from the past contributes to who we are as people. By looking at what has been done before, we gather knowledge and inspiration that contribute to how we speak, feel, and view the world around us. Therefore, I don't think that artists must help their country. In any case, we can gain understanding by analyzing past artworks such as The <em>Portrait of a Woman, possibly Ginevra d'Antonio Lupari Gozzadini.</em></div>]]></description>
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         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Hello Manon, I would like to respond to your first question about "who defines if what an artist creates is really an art." and the last one "For example, how could one affirm that Duchamp's work Fontaine is indeed art" at the same time.  I believe that we, as unique individuals, all have different tastes and different definitions of art. Therefore, we are the one who defines if what an artist's creation is art. The artist will believe that his masterpiece is an art, and people may share his opinion, or disagree with it.  Duchamp's work "Fontaine" is controversial. No one can affirm that it is art precisely because there is no universal definition of art. Having diverse opinions is what feeds our thoughts and enrich us. Duchamp considered "Fontaine" to be “retinal” or purely visual, but it sparked a dialogue that continues to this day about what constitutes a work of art. To conclude,  we are the ones who define if an artist's creation such as Duchamp's "Fontaine" is art.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-04-03 19:25:12 UTC</pubDate>
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         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>"Do you think an artist can self proclaim himself an artist even though everybody thinks his art is bad?" Dear Antoine, I believe that an artist can "self proclaim himself an artist even though everybody thinks his art is bad". Indeed, what everyone "thinks is bad" can turn out to be great art. Claude Monet (1840-1926) might have been a key figure in the Impressionist movement, but his unique style wasn't well-liked or understood. His works were rejected by society and art exhibitions because it went against the traditional style and method of painting at the time. Today, a Monet painting is valued between $7 and 81 million dollars. The definition of art has changed through time and there were always artists ahead of their society's current understanding or appreciation of their art. Claude Monet, Van Gogh, Paul Gauguin, Vermeer and other today well-recognized artists weren't appreciated for their true value in their time. Therefore, I believe that an artist like Claude Monet can "self proclaim himself an artist even though everybody thinks his art is bad" because they can turn out to be brilliant but misunderstood.</div>]]></description>
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         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Your question is interesting Elea. Firstly, I strongly agree that artists could create a very biased image of what actually happened. Secondly, in response to your second question about how we know which artwork to believe in, I simply consider that you don't know and shouldn't believe in them. One should always aim to be critical and rational when considering art. You should strive to stay objective. Every artwork will be biased to a certain extent. You will be more close to the historical truth when you confront different artworks and perspective. The example that you chose illustrates it. You stated that the three very famous muralists Orozco, Rivera, and Siqueiros all lived at the same time but had different perspectives. When you confront the three perspectives, the obtained result will be closer to the truth. Additionally, the biased images conveyed by the artist are interesting. We can learn new aspects and perspectives on a historical event. We should always consider facts through different angles to learn more knowledge and earn awareness. Sometimes there is no definite truth. Maybe the three perspectives all show "what actually happened". Artist A may believe that Y event was traumatic for his community so he decided to represent them, speak up for the minority a commemorate it. Maybe person B gained profit from it and became wealthy. And perhaps person C wasn't personally affected by it so they chose to write a poem about the general consensus. The three viewpoints are all important pieces of history. To sum it up, I strongly agree that artists could create a very biased image of what actually happened. However, this biased image is also a part of history and we can learn from it. Also, there is no specific artwork you should believe in.  You should always strive to stay objective and should try to confront the perspectives of artists such as Orozco, Rivera, and Siqueiros to have a more reliable perspective. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-04-03 19:29:24 UTC</pubDate>
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         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Dear Manon, I believe that you have misunderstood my meaning when I wrote: "The existence of art requires artists or a group of artists and an audience". I simply meant that art needs a creator and a reception or external factors in general to exist because we live in a society. In response to your question: "Do you think that an artist or a group of artists who would not be successful, and whose work would not be known by anyone, would still create art? To what extent? ", yes I believe that someone who is not successful, and whose work would not be known by anyone, would still create art. There are a lot of examples of artists who aren't famous but still produce art. Even famous artists generally started their careers as unknown and obscure artists. Yet, who would argue that Van Gogh's "Starry Night" isn't art? After all, he lived his life unsuccessfully and all his artworks were worthless at his time. But time proved that what his "worthless" art was, in reality, great art pieces. Nowadays, Vincent van Gogh is known as one of the best painters. Van Gogh was an unsuccessful artist, and his work wasn't known by anyone, but time has proven that what he created during his lifetime was art and that moreover, his art is highly valued. Another personal example of such an artist is an acquaintance of mine. She strives to become famous but is sadly still unknown. By definition, because she's an artist she obviously creates art. She paints a lot and draws astonishingly realistic portraits. Regardless of her success, she is an artist and lives by selling her artworks. Of course, she creates art even if she's sadly obscure. Therefore, I strongly affirm that unsuccessful or unappreciated artists such as my acquaintance or Van Gogh during his lifetime still create art, regardless of their success. </div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-04-03 19:32:01 UTC</pubDate>
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         <author>diane_le_chapelain</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Dear Elea,I would first like to clarify that I disagree with a portion of your question. Even if someone hasn't experienced or lived through the time when the artwork was created, they are still participating in that "collective activity". Art is meant to keep us connected and that connection won't fade with time. Moreover, people of our generation can still go to the museum and appreciate Rembrandt's artworks. Therefore, we are still supporting the artist, conveying his message and learning from him, ultimately participating in that collective activity. As a response to your (revised) question, yes I believe that even if one hasn't experienced or lived through the time when the artwork was created, he will still consider it as art. The video titled "For the first time ever, 'All the Rembrandts' are on display in Amsterdam" praises the brilliance of Rembrandt's artworks.  Another one entitled "Why REMBRANDT Lighting Matters" explains what we can learn about his lightning techniques to ameliorate one's photography expertise. These two videos prove that even 400 years after his death, people will still consider that his creations are great artworks from which lessons can be taken. Therefore, using Rembrandt as an example, we can conclude that even if someone hasn't experienced or lived through the time when the artwork was created, he will still consider these creations as art.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-04-03 19:33:12 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>What &quot;ingredients&quot; do you think an artist needs to revolutionize the art of the time he is in?</title>
         <author>jeanne5935</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>As Gaspard said, Bob Dylan was popular during his career but wasn’t revolutionary while conversely, Vincent van Gogh during his painter career had to adapt his style to the popular one because his innovative style wasn’t appreciated. I think that a revolutionary artist needs to be passionate, critical to the society, and be senseless to the reflection of himself that he is giving through his artworks. An art is revolutionary when it is bringing a new point of view to the public. The painting “Guernica” from Pablo Picasso is a revolution. By the style that started the cubism. The strong meaning of the artwork made its renown but the unrealistic shapes that are representing the pain and suffering so well made it a worldwide known piece of art. Picasso wasn’t a follower, he wanted painting to be an escape at a time when photography an d cinema were presenting the realistic he chose to be the opposite (<a href="https://jorgesette.com/2014/12/17/pablo-picasso-a-revolution-in-the-visual-arts/">Jorge Sette</a>). I think that art is revolutionary when it is, as “Guernica”, an innovation and an invitation to look from another angle without denying the purpose of art.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2020-04-03 20:05:24 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Concerning Gaspard&#39;s questions: &quot;What if an artist does the most beautiful, detailed but not expressing piece of art in the world, you would say it is not art? Is it mandatory to have emotions to pass on to do art?&quot;</title>
         <author>gigibabic</author>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Gaspard, I struggled with your questions, because I believe that it is simply impossible to have something beautiful and detailed, but not be expressive. Retaking your previous example, of Monet’s work “The Manneport”, I think it is beautiful and detailed (in its own impressionist way), but it also an expression of love for the beauty of nature. I think it’s impossible for art not to be expressive because that is what defines art. </div><div> </div><div>The expression isn’t always emotional either, it can be intellectual. </div><div> </div><div>Even if it’s not meant to be expressive, we make everything through our biased eyes. Everything we make or see has already gone through our mind that sees something and associates it with a concept we were taught. So immediately, it is already expressive of our thoughts even though it is not meant to be. Jackson Pollock, a famous American abstract/expressionist artist, honestly did what could be considered as something without expression at all. But he took the time to choose the colours he used and used them, and while making the artwork, he was consciously trying to make something out of nothing. That makes his art expressive.</div><div> </div><div>And, lastly, it is impossible for someone not to have emotions.  So, it is impossible to make something without emotions. As hard as we try as human beings to be unbiased, just the fact that we exist and we think, makes emotions control everything we make and do. Even if the artist does not mean to make the public feel something when seeing their art, the public will see the art and feel something. Even if it is minute and insignificant, we can’t help but feel some way about something.</div>]]></description>
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