PP&PD - Ways of Seeing Seminar by https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq Please see Moodle for more information on seminar. en-us 2023-01-18 09:02:17 UTC 2023-01-24 14:32:31 UTC hello@padlet.com Ways of Seeing TV Series https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454406477 Berger believes that children tend to comprehend images in relation to their own experiences, relating male and female characters to their perhaps naive understanding.

To be naked is to be oneself, to be nude is to be seen naked by others and yet not recognised for oneself - often becoming an object of the gaze.
Nakedness is a sight for those who are dressed, it is created in the eye of the beholder.

Renaissance paintings often depict the 'moment of shame' through defensive gestures and coverings such as leaves and hands.

Rembrandt began with traditional practices, painting the wealthy, observing class and yet their later work fixates on subjects whose class is ambiguous, the latter work is more valuable because it breaks the traditions of the time.]]> 2023-01-24 09:43:39 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454406477 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454573995 Berger showing the Carvaggio to children demonstrates that children understand imagery through contextualising them within their own lives]]> 2023-01-24 12:27:44 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454573995 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454576676 The concept of nudity requires a level of objectification and the disregard of ones identity ]]> 2023-01-24 12:30:20 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454576676 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454579089 The way in which a person perceives an image is dependant upon two factors. Firstly the intention of the image's creator and the aesthetic control they have. The second being the identity of the consumer]]> 2023-01-24 12:32:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454579089 Machine Visions https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454584451 The most recognisable image of a drone was made by an amateur 3d modeller. The image in question is the number 1 google search result, it also was featured on anti-drone posters in Pakistan.

The events at Gatwick airport in which a drone was supposedly spotted over one of the runways may not have happened at all. All visible media surrounding the event are "artist impressions" and therefore do not show any actual evidence.]]> 2023-01-24 12:38:09 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454584451 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454587207 Digitisation has allowed humans to have greater access to the context of a photograph, encouraging us to be more investigative in our digestion of images. For example, metadata is said to convey the purpose and message of an image more effectively than whatever can be found in the singular image itself. ]]> 2023-01-24 12:40:37 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454587207 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454589249 Clip one : Through the eyes of a child

John Berger uses a Caravaggio painting to show the difference in how children and adults interpret what they see, demonstrating a child's tendency to understand images in relation to their own experience.

The children were about to see information that most adults would not look at like how sexually ambiguous caravaggio was
]]> 2023-01-24 12:42:25 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454589249 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454591268 Clip three : Mr and Mrs Andrews

Looks at the image from two different perspectives 
First perspective being about nature and love for the field as a nice landscape image 

But from the second perspective looks at it like private land that both mr and mrs Andrews are proud of owning you can see quite blunt facial expressions on their face showing little emotion. Showing how wealth was significant
]]> 2023-01-24 12:44:14 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454591268 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454596014 Themes that came up constantly were wealth in both Holbein painting “jean de Berger”& “mr and Mrs Anderson”]]> 2023-01-24 12:48:19 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454596014 Ways of seeing from "Ways of Seeing at 50: how John Berger’s radical TV series changed our view of art" https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454598887 Ways of Seeing represents a zenith of creative freedom at the BBC, only glimpsed now in the work of Adam Curtis, which likewise combines a seemingly radical message with an oddly didactic narrator. Berger might have been the face of the series, as well as the better-known partner, but the process of making the series was unusually collaborative. 

When an image is presented as a work of art, the outcome and results of how people see it are affected by beauty, truth, genius, civilization, form, status, taste, etc.]]> 2023-01-24 12:50:52 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454598887 Ways of Seeing TV show up2071859 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454599484 What we know about the artist and the story behind it influences what we see in the image. Also how this information can be seen even without knowing it such as the children seeing that the main person in the painting looks both male and female. Brought their own knowledge and experience into the image to try and understand the meaning behind it.

Male gaze was very heavily used women shamed and often depicted as naked. "To be naked is to see oneself. To be nude is to be seen naked by others but to not see oneself" the difference and power of how we are depicted by others controls the view of ourself and we use their view to create this depiction of ourself.]]> 2023-01-24 12:51:26 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454599484 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454606616 We are constantly observing. Constantly looking. For new things or old. We never stop seeing.

We try to relate to things we see. Creating a personal connection to our surroundings and familiarising ourselves with what we see
 ]]> 2023-01-24 12:57:26 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454606616 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454617455 “Perspective centers everything on the eye of the beholder” - we choose what we want to see ]]> 2023-01-24 13:06:39 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454617455 ways of seeing chapter 1 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454619567 soon after we can see, we are aware that we can also been seen. the eye of the other combines with our own eye to make it fully credible that we are part of the visible. 

an image is a sight which has been recreated or reproduced. it is an appearance, or a set of appearances, which has been detached from the place and time in which it first made its appearance and preserved - for a few moments or a few centuries. 

every image embodies a way of seeing. even a photograph. ]]> 2023-01-24 13:08:31 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454619567 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454639482
-children relate a lot more to visual elements rather than contextual as they don't know as much and combine what they see to what they know. We find comfort in recognising things we can make out and relate to to understand what's being shown without being informed on the actual contextual truth the image has.


]]> 2023-01-24 13:23:55 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454639482 Ways of Seeing Podcast up2071859 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454640864 An image largely published and shown across a range of media sources is a lie fabricated by 3D models. Images of global situation is a lie does that mean our viewing of the event isn't correct. "An electronic dream untethered from reality"
"The camera by making the work of art transmitable has multiplied its possible meanings and destroyed its unique meaning"
Image not only tells us about whats in the art but tells us about ourselves and the society in which we live. So by analysing an image we can figure out how people were living.

Gatwick Airport drone incident might not be true police found no videos, images of anything to suggest there was however news agency's published picture of drones over runways. Artist interpretation of the event created a fake image that make people believe it was real only because there was an image that was apparently proof of the event. By doing this it changes the original images main purpose and not used by their original source, meanings become infante.

Impossible to control the data constantly. Photographers hold a lot of power of the people around them and who sees that image. Tried to find ways as to stop unwanted images such as strobe lighting to use against Paparazzi or using CV dazzle (computer vision dazzle). Facebook is an example of the power of photography it extends to many lenses throughout the world and isn't just about a small glass lens.

]]> 2023-01-24 13:24:58 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454640864 Clip One https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454640884 Children see things and in an attempt to understand them use other materials that they have seen before and create a direct comparison, even though these comparisons are more complex than what the children might be able to understand. In the painting that they saw majority of the children thought that the individual in the centre of this work was of the gender of the child. So the boys thought he was a male and the girls thought that he was a female. This shows the the individual shows both male and female features.

]]> 2023-01-24 13:24:59 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454640884 https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454646412 Ways of seeing - John Berger - book

'Seeing comes before words. The child looks and recognizes before it can speak.'

'But there is also another sense in which seeing comes before words. It is seeing which establishes our place in the surrounding world; we explain that world with words, but word can never undo the fact that we are surrounded by it. The relation between what we see and what we know is never settled.'

Ways of seeing BBC Two  tv show 

There not naked as they are there naked as you see them

Male gaze - paintings

Vanity of women 

Children look at paintings without knowing any context having their fresh options without any influence of others. Children see very differently to us as they have no influence of other people opinions or media.

Podcast - new ways of seeing

Machine visions - James Bridle

Technology is the new way of seeing.

War

Drones in Afghanistan - no 1 google image - wasn’t real/ the image had been made from 3d modelling 

Machine intelligence 

Gatwick was shut down because of a drone flying over the runway, but there was no footage of the drones, only pictures made by artists which may not have been real. 

Fear, confusion and anger

Pictures were taken on nights out, which may not be wanted to be remembered or seen the next day. Anyone can take photos or have photos of anyone and post them on social media. 

Facebook is a camera, a large physiological behavioural camera.

Don’t look at what they show, look at how they show.

]]> 2023-01-24 13:29:17 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454646412 Clip Two https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454648443 Being nude is being oneself until the point of being viewed by another and then this becomes being naked. However, nakedness in illustration is being nude as the intent is to be seen without clothes. This could be as it takes the personal away from the confrontation. ]]> 2023-01-24 13:30:38 UTC https://padlet.com/aikaterinigegisian/3ifhd5nn2kt9h5bq/wish/2454648443