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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Sameness keeps you from strong emotions in pain which I think is what the community tried to keep away from so conflict wouldn't happen.</p><p><br/></p><p>-Declan Mortensen</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Maile Foucart</p><p><br/></p><ol><li><p>Shawn asked, "How does Sameness prevent pain?"</p></li></ol><p><br/></p><p>Sameness prevents pain because you won't have any strong emotions. Strong Emotions eventually lead to pain, which, with Sameness, no one can suffer through strong emotions like love and hate. </p><p><br/></p><ol start="2"><li><p>Dekong asked, "How does pain give us wisdom?"</p></li></ol><p><br/></p><p>Pain is a strong discipline that teaches others not to do something because it is hurtful to them. Nobody wants to feel pain, thus if they feel it by doing something, they won't do it again. </p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Sameness makes everything easy to control and equal so there is no suffering. -Gus Bick</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Nour Elkholy</p><p><br/></p><p>Why is sameness in the community good?</p><p>-Sameness in the community is good because it limits discrimination, pain, and choices. Pain can be difficult, for example, Jonas and the Giver had to bear all the pain of the community alone which was hard. Sameness can reduce conflict which can occur from discrimination. Sameness also doesn't let anyone make the wrong decisions which could end up in chaous.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Decong asked about how Pain gives you wisdom. </p><p>Pain shows how you should avoid things, and also how to control extreme emotions.</p><p>-Noel</p><p> </p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Nihaar asked which is more worth it in the community whether its love or pain.</p><p><br></p><p>I think pain is more important because according to the book, it allows them to make choices and make good decisions for themselves.</p><p><br></p><p>-Liam Matic</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Dakota Kosinski</p><p><br/></p><p>Q: How does pain give us wisdom?</p><p>A: Pain will train people to not do the same mistake as last time, as nobody wants to suffer more and will most likely revert their ways not to feel the same pain again.</p><p><br/></p><p>Q: Why is Sameness good for Jonas's community?</p><p>A: Sameness keeps people from feeling emotions, but in some cases of sadness and mental or physical anguish, Sameness is good as it prevents people from making rash decisions and starting unnecessary conflicts.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>What is more important: love or pain?</p><p>I believe that love is the most essential feeling because of its capacity to feel for others. Yes, pain guides us through wisdom, but love can also cause pain, which humbles and teaches us. To feel true happiness, you must feel strong love. That is an undisputable fact.</p><p>-Noel Jung</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Helena is talking about how love is more important in a community when I think that is somewhat true but most people in the group are saying Pain. If you love though you can give promise that pain can give knowledge I feel the impact better in love that pain</p><p><br/></p><p>-Declan Mortensen</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Jo</p><p><br/></p><p>-Between love and hate, which one would you like to live with?</p><p><br/></p><p>I would want to live with love because love makes people happy and feels warm. Even though it causes pain, it is important to life to feel that love with your family and friends. </p><p><br/></p><p>-How does sameness prevent pain?</p><p><br/></p><p>Sameness can prevent pain because without weather, natural disasters split families apart, which causes sadness and pain. It also causes injuries. Without love, people can't feel that deep pain. </p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>I think Love is good but without pain you will never know what is wrong. -Gus Bick</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Did Jonas make the right choice by leaving the community?</p><p><br/></p><p>He did because he can be able to experience different things that he could not feel when he was in his community</p><p><br/></p><ul><li><p>Jimmy Haddad</p></li></ul>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Should we use sameness in our lives? I don't think we should use sameness in our lives because it won't give us the choice to live the way we want to.</p><p><br/></p><p>Jason H</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"Did Jonas make the right decision by leaving the community?"</p><p><br/></p><p>I believe that Jonas did make the right choice. If Jonas did not leave the community and take Gabriel with him, Gabriel would have been "released" or executed for an unjust reason, and Jonas would stay custom to the bland society which lacks true emotions as opposed to the new society he might have entered.</p><p><br/></p><p>-Abner</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Should Jonas have left the community?</p><p><br/></p><p>I think he should have left the community because even he would die, so many lives would improve with the ability to see memories.</p><p><br/></p><p>Arjun Narukonda</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Did Jonas do the right decision to bring Gabe- I think so because he was going to get released and he saved him, even if it means he has to endure a bit pain.</p><ul><li><p>Therese Macatula</p></li></ul><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Did Jonas make the right decision by leaving the community?</p><p><br/></p><p>I believe that Jonas did make the right choice. If he stayed in the community, Gabriel would have died, plaguing Jonas with guilt. Jonas would also suffer loneliness and can't interact or be with the people he loves. He knows that nobody truly loves him or each other.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Neha ramesh- Somone asked if Jonas should've left the community</p><p><br/></p><p>I think he should've because he pioneered a potentioally better future for people</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2024-03-25 17:42:02 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Should Sameness be used in our lives?</p><p><br/></p><p>I don't think it should be used since many feelings will be prevented. Not only will pain and other negative emotions be eliminated, but so will true happiness, love, and all the other positive emotions. We also won't have our own independence or choices in the world.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Neha Ramesh- Why do you guys think there is color</p><p><br/></p><p>color represents emotion and scietfcally it Is just light and light is energy</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Did Jonas make the right decision leaving the community?</p><p><br/></p><p>I think he did because. While he was receiver, he was suffering since only he could expierence emotions. If he stayed, he would have continued to suffer, making his life miserable. </p><p><br/></p><p>-Daniyal R</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>What is more important in a society, pain or love?</p><p>I think pain is more important to have in a society because without knowledge of the bad, the good is not truly enjoyable. Pain also gives us wisdom to not make mistakes in life, while love is present only to be a catalyst for mistakes. </p><p> - Nihaar</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Memories represent something new and like the unexpected. Memories represents symbols and the unknown. At the beginning, Jonas didn't know what memories are and once he experienced it, it was out of his world. </p><p>-Winston Ryee</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Why was the apple turning red significant?</p><p><br></p><p>When the apple turned red, it was significant because it was the first moment when Jonas accessed "seeing beyond" and when Jonas finally recognized himself as the Receiver.</p><p><br></p><p>-Jonathan Li</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"What did the sled at the end of the story represent?"</p><p> I feel like the sled at the end of the story represents the past and how he got his first memory. It was his first memory that he ever received so it was very special and significant to him. This was also allowed him to feel what real pain feels like. </p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>"Why was the apple turning red significant?"</p><p>The apple turning red was the first time of Jonas seeing color but at that time he didn't even realize what it was. He was beginning to unlock the ability to see red. - Shawn</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Decong Zeng</p><p><br></p><ol><li><p>"What did the sled represent at the end of the story?"</p></li></ol><p><br></p><p>When Jonas was first introduced to the sled, he was completely unfamiliar with colors and memories. In the end, he had learned a lot about society and saw the sled as the last thing he saw before beginning a new life Elsewhere. In a way, the sled represents new beginnings.</p><p><br></p><ol start="2"><li><p>"What feeling is more important, pain or love?"</p></li></ol><p><br></p><p>While both emotions are important and a part of being alive, pain should objectively be more important because it gives experience. While love gives people happiness, pain gives experience to help people improve and learn. Love may <em>feel</em> good, but in my opinion, pain is more <em>useful</em>.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Eric Shin</p><p><br/></p><p>What is the significance of the apple changing color towards the beginning of the story? </p><p><br/></p><p>Shortly after Jonas sees the apple changing color, his life drastically changes, due in part to his unique job assignment: The Receiver of Memory. This specific scene represents a new perspective about life, because Jonas finds that color and emotion are aspects of life that are not part of his community. After learning about color, Jonas argues that his community is not open to opinion or choice for citizens. </p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Jennie K</p><p><br/></p><p>Q1 : What did the sled represent at the end of the story?</p><p><br/></p><p>A: The sled symbolizes Jonas' trip down memory lane, and the sleigh symbolizes Jonas' journey of discovery, as Jonas truly learns who he is and his place in the world through his journey through the Giver's memories.</p><p><br/></p><p>Q2 : Why was the apple turning red significant?</p><p><br/></p><p>A : Apple turned red, it was the first time that Jonas see color but he didn't know what it is. And finally he recognized himself.</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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