https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8 en-us 2018-04-23 18:13:37 UTC 2025-12-06 13:45:40 UTC hello@padlet.com tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254548370 ANNOUNCEMENT: You will not get credit for making a contribution if you don't include your name at the end of the post.  ALSO, all posts must be rated G. This is not the forum for making jokes either.           Mrs. H-M]]> 2018-04-23 18:16:53 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254548370 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254553837 Outer circle starts off with guiding question #3:                                                                                            Think about the causes you care most about. Are you more dedicated to helping animals or humans? Why? Use evidence from the articles to help support your position.                          Mrs. H-M]]> 2018-04-23 18:26:58 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254553837 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254603766 If we save humans we can gain more money. Benjamin]]> 2018-04-23 20:25:26 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254603766 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254603850 Meghana: isn't that selfish]]> 2018-04-23 20:25:43 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254603850 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254603957 What does this mean: If we save humans we can gain more money? Also, how does this comment address guiding question #3?]]> 2018-04-23 20:26:03 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254603957 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604035 How do we save more money by saving humans? - Suhani]]> 2018-04-23 20:26:20 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604035 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604039 How can saving humans lead to gaining more money? - Anaya]]> 2018-04-23 20:26:20 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604039 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604080 Meghana: I think they mean that if you for example fish, you get more money by selling the fish]]> 2018-04-23 20:26:27 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604080 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604086 Are we always successful if we help ourselves? -Madison]]> 2018-04-23 20:26:28 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604086 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604124 I believe that he us saying that the humans might grow up to bolster the economy. -James]]> 2018-04-23 20:26:37 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604124 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604224 It means  a human has more value, they can work, they have purpose, and potential. Benjamin]]> 2018-04-23 20:26:59 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604224 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604289 I think that I am more dedicated to the causes that help animals because humans are a major reason that many animal's habitat are being destroyed. It doesn't matter how much money we make because animals are a major part of our lives. - Maya]]> 2018-04-23 20:27:13 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604289 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604299 Meghana: According to the last sentence of article 1, we depend on animals and animals depend on us]]> 2018-04-23 20:27:14 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604299 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604326 I want to add that by saving animals we can still get money. Article 1 states that, "When the animals are gone, economic prospects for humans diminish as well."-Simran T]]> 2018-04-23 20:27:19 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604326 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604406 Students, if you hear something from the inner circle and it resonates with you, feel free to refer to it in your posts.]]> 2018-04-23 20:27:35 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604406 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604409 to helping animals, like transfering endangered species them to sanctuary, would help humans make money- justin]]> 2018-04-23 20:27:36 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604409 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604425 I think saving animals helps, more. It impacts humans in a way that we get more money and we could help humans with that money. In source 1 it writes that Empathy isn't a zero-sum game. This means helping animals can help us. - Brennan]]> 2018-04-23 20:27:40 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604425 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604454 A anmial, like  a dog is nice, but a human is so much more valuble. Benjamin]]> 2018-04-23 20:27:45 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604454 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604528 Good point Brennan.]]> 2018-04-23 20:28:03 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604528 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604580 I agree with Benjamin. Humans have many more opportunities to contribute to the world and make an impact. Anwika]]> 2018-04-23 20:28:15 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604580 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604600 Meghana: Why do some of you think that animals are less important just because they can't communicate with us? ]]> 2018-04-23 20:28:18 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604600 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604614 Is it really more important for a human to make money or an animal to be saved?]]> 2018-04-23 20:28:21 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604614 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604642 Saving animals can also lead to getting more money. For example,  in article one it said that children got an education because of saving animals. an education for children is very important. - Suhani]]> 2018-04-23 20:28:28 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604642 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604646 I believe that we should be more dedicated to helping animals, because animals contribute to human life. -Bancy]]> 2018-04-23 20:28:28 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604646 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604801 Is there anyone here who is more drawn to animal-related causes than  human causes?]]> 2018-04-23 20:28:33 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604801 vedhar915 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604845 I agree with Benjamin. However, we rely on animals for everyday meals. For example, the domestic cow's excrement is used in manure, which is used to grow plants -Vedant]]> 2018-04-23 20:28:34 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254604845 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605331 I agree with Maya because according to article one, many areas have many conflicts because of animal welfare rights. We are the main reason why animals are going extinct. As we brought up before, if this continues on, we could run out of many resources. -Suhas]]> 2018-04-23 20:29:06 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605331 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605678 Meghana :True, but isn't that being selfish vedant like the 6th paragraph on page 2 of article 1]]> 2018-04-23 20:29:45 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605678 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605685 I think there can also be  a comprimiese for species who are in need. But, animals like dogs have a great population. Saving humans is more important. Benjamin]]> 2018-04-23 20:29:46 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605685 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605692 I agree with Brennans post from about 15 posts ago. Although pets like dogs or cats are nice to have as companions, humans are much more valuable as they can work to grow food, create technology, and do much more. - Anaya]]> 2018-04-23 20:29:48 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605692 vedhar915 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605700 People use animals for products for human consumption -Vedant]]> 2018-04-23 20:29:50 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605700 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605823 To refer to Jasleen, is it only birds that eat it and can throw up the trash?]]> 2018-04-23 20:30:01 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605823 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605836 -Madison]]> 2018-04-23 20:30:05 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605836 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605847 I am more dedicated to helping animals because the ecosystem to remain in balance is extremely important. If one specie went extinct, the whole ecosystem would fall. This would hurt the humans by reducing amounts of food and less amount oxygen, which is what the plants supply to the world. Humans could go extinct from this! Dead animals equal dead humans. We depend on each other! (Rishmeen Kaur)]]> 2018-04-23 20:30:08 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605847 vedhar915 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605868 Milk, eggs, and meat are just a few examples]]> 2018-04-23 20:30:11 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605868 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605917 I agree with Vedant, because bees and other pollinators contribute to the growth of many of our crops. If this stops then humans will die.]]> 2018-04-23 20:30:23 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605917 jamlu819 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605987 To respond to Vedant, Humans do not require these resources to survive.]]> 2018-04-23 20:30:39 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254605987 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606140 Meghana: I think we have exhausted this topic, can we move on to another question]]> 2018-04-23 20:30:55 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606140 vedhar915 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606179 I disagree with Rishmeen because not every species is crucial to an ecosystem]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:04 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606179 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606188 I agree with Vedant, but then again, material products are not the only reason we are protecting animals. Many people are doing it because of their religion or their beliefs. - Suhas]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:06 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606188 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606197 I agree with what Maya said that humans have destroyed many animals' habitats. Because of humans, many animals are extinct or endangered. I think that because humans have caused suffering to so many animals, I feel more dedicated to helping animals.                                                                                                 -Simran Tawari]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:08 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606197 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606204 What should we discuss?]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:09 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606204 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606223 So, how important is it then that we strike some kind of balance between caring about animal suffering and caring about human suffering? Should we actually do both? Is this realistic?]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:12 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606223 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606251 Replying to madison, other animals can die from trash, aquatic animals are commonly killed by plastic, we need to save animals to help out our habits - Brennan]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:17 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606251 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606261 Adding on to what Vedant said, many humans do not actually eat meat or other animal products, like for example vegans- Anaya]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:18 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606261 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606337 I agree with you, Brennan, because conserving and helping animals can help us in many ways. According to article #1, helping animals can help us succeed. Also, according to article #2, helping animals just makes people feel good in general. - Maya]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:34 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606337 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606348 Regarding to what Jasleen said in teh inner circle: if a house cat or dog dies  would that really harm our species, but animals with real purpose in teh ecosystem we should help them. Benjamin]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:36 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606348 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606380 I disagree with Vedant because we don't need animals to survive. This is because many people in the world are vegan, and they live healthy lives. Anwika]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:43 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606380 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606434 I agree with James with his post earlier, because some people would be vegans, and they wouldn't care nor need these resources from animals.]]> 2018-04-23 20:31:56 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606434 jamlu819 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606488 TO respond to Mrs. Harman-Murray, it is necessary to be help both groups. However, it is much harder to do both then to only do one.]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:05 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606488 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606534 In article 2 it says that most of America eats certain critters on a regular, like cow, sheep, etc, yet how does no one care?]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:16 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606534 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606544 -Madison]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:18 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606544 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606555 -justin]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:23 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606555 vedhar915 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606561 Maya, some people may be vegan, but not everyone is vegan. If you look above I talk about how cow excrement is in manure.]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:26 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606561 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606580 Meghana: I think it is realistic to both because we share a slight symbiotic relationship with animals so they are worth saving ( response to Mrs.HM question)]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:29 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606580 jamlu819 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606608 TO respond to Mrs. Harman-Murray post approximently 10 ago, it is necessary to be help both groups. However, it is much harder to do both then to only do one.]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:34 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606608 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606624 What about the people who aren't vegan. Many people will have trouble converting to a vegan diet - Suhani]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:39 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606624 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606710 good point- justin]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:56 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606710 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606712 Following up on what James wrote, does this mean I should support, say the local animal shelter, as well as sponsor a child in a third world country?]]> 2018-04-23 20:32:57 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606712 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606743  But Benjamin, remember that in article two where Hal Herzog specifies which animals people really care about. People could safely say that dogs have no purpose but to love. -Suhas]]> 2018-04-23 20:33:03 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606743 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606769 To respond to madison, i don't think we built a relationship with these animals and are not commonly "pets." - Brennan]]> 2018-04-23 20:33:08 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606769 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606807  Meghana: true, but we don't have to, we can try to consume less meat or even try saving some animals in return]]> 2018-04-23 20:33:17 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606807 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606871 To refer to Suhani, it actually depends how much meat or dairy that person eats which reflects how hard it is to convert to vegan. -Madison]]> 2018-04-23 20:33:32 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606871 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606880 Animals, like fish, for example, help humans gain money, which is another reason as to why animals are important to humans. -Bancy]]> 2018-04-23 20:33:35 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606880 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606998 Meghana: I think the symbiotic relationship between us and animals is more than just money]]> 2018-04-23 20:34:03 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254606998 jamlu819 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607017 To refer to Suhani, you are assuming that without our support for the animals, they will die out.]]> 2018-04-23 20:34:09 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607017 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607038 It is necessary to balance everything out. Both animals and humans deserve the same amount of attention. If there were no balance, a specie may go extinct. For example, if their are more humans than animals we would have less of a food supply to the world. (Rishmeen Kaur)]]> 2018-04-23 20:34:14 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607038 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607043 Students, here's an interesting fact. In 2015 Americans spent over 60 billion dollars on their pets. Is that shocking to you? Is that terrible? Or, do we need to look at this statistic in light of how much money Americans have donated to help fellow humans who are suffering?]]> 2018-04-23 20:34:15 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607043 vedhar915 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607073 I agree with Mrs. HM. Both creatures deserve to have a good life, so if you can sponsor both, you will be doing a favor to the economy]]> 2018-04-23 20:34:22 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607073 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607082 Adding on to what Benjamin said a few posts ago, we should save animals that play important roles in our ecosystems, for example animals like deer, and many others. The majority of animals that we have as pets do not play such a large role in the ecosystem. For example a dog, a cat, or a hamster. -Anaya]]> 2018-04-23 20:34:23 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607082 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607197 What type of pets would be spent money on? Rare types? -Madison]]> 2018-04-23 20:34:47 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607197 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607213 I respectfully disgaree with Rishmeen this is, because a house animal dieing has no effect really, but as the first source shows some animals really need our help. We need to help both humans  and animals, and as source 1 shows when some animals a re helped humans die. We need to comrimse to help humans  and animals. Benjamin]]> 2018-04-23 20:34:51 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607213 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607258 But remember, people have very different views on what animals are important or not. -Suhas]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:00 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607258 vedhar915 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607343 Madison, any pet requires money to take care of]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:16 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607343 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607344 To answer Leslie's question, bees are extremely important to our society. Without bees, there would be no flowers. Without flowers, no fruit. This would all result in a limited amount of food, which would result in the population decreasing dramatically. (Rishmeen Kaur)]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:17 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607344 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607383 Meghana: ( adding on to my old response) I think it is also about they world like what worms do to us, they have helped make soil better]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:24 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607383 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607486 People who are blind need these animals, commonly a dog. Dogs can help owners by not running into a street not knowing that they are even in a street - Brennan]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:29 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607486 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607527 Could it be possible that we can remain dedicated to both animals and humans and try to make both animals and humans help each other instead of contributing to each other's suffering? - Maya]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:40 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607527 jamlu819 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607531 This isn't a shocking fact. People just don't like helping people as much as they like spending it on themselves. -James]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:40 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607531 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607572 Hal Herzog clearly states that household pets or animals that live in the wild are the only animals that humans really care about. -Suhas]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:50 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607572 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607581 I believe that spending this much money on your pets is not okay, but how much would a parent spend on their child. It doesn't really matter if it is a dog or a child. - Suhani]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:53 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607581 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607617 I agree with Meghana, species like worms and bees are important to our ecosystem and humans. (Rishmeen Kaur)]]> 2018-04-23 20:35:55 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607617 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607644 I completely agree with Meghana. Though it will take some effort it is  possible to convert to a vegan diet. Anwika]]> 2018-04-23 20:36:00 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607644 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607694 To respond to Ms. Harman Murray's post a few minutes ago, I think we have to considers how much money have humans donated to help other humans. We shouldn't judge how much money we have donated to animals before thinking about how much we have gave to help humans.-Simran Tawari ]]> 2018-04-23 20:36:11 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607694 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607713 As Raveena said in the discussion, humans accompling things and create new technology and inventions, animals do not. - Anaya]]> 2018-04-23 20:36:17 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607713 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607739 I look at this as how much animals impact the lives of humans, the money would not only be spent on knick knacks, but also for people with disabilites, for Mrs. H post earlier. -justin ]]> 2018-04-23 20:36:22 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607739 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607834 I feel like Americans spending over 60 billion dollars on their pets is very shocking. Although pets are very important, Americans should be spending money on different causes rather than their pets. -Bancy]]> 2018-04-23 20:36:27 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607834 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607854 That is an intersting point Suhas brought up earlier like source 2 shows chicksn die a lot and no one really cares. Benjamin]]> 2018-04-23 20:36:34 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607854 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607952 Meghana: Overall, I don't think that we should lean to one type of person or animal . Lets try to save both!]]> 2018-04-23 20:36:57 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/2g2dd1191mm8/wish/254607952