https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj Paleolithic vs. Neolithic en-us 2016-08-30 17:40:16 UTC 2016-09-01 00:59:49 UTC hello@padlet.com polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120645772 Paleolithic peoples were in a much better position than their Neolithic counterparts. They were healthier, lived longer and had stronger bones/teeth. What more could a human ask for?
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Without the Neolithic Era, the world would have never evolved or advanced. We would never know the concepts of value, or have developed skills aside from constantly finding food sources. Developing argriculture gave us the vast food supply we needed to sustain a growing community.
Done]]> 2016-08-30 19:07:17 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120676975 polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120679286 Great, we have a vast food supply. So how do you explain famine for millions across the planet? All we've done is overextend our resources by developing "civilization." Done]]> 2016-08-30 19:16:45 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120679286 murdogra https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120679470 True, but famine was practically inevitable. Rather than finding ways to develop medical improvements, those of the hunter-gatherer era simply abandoned the sick, elderly, or starving. Done.]]> 2016-08-30 19:17:29 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120679470 polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120679823 Abandon the elderly...that's something we don't do anymore (rolling eyes). Hello nursing home as soon as pops gets to be too much of a burden. Done]]> 2016-08-30 19:19:13 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120679823 murdogra https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120680014 Maybe not ideal, but not abandoned altogether. At least nursing homes sustain and assist the elderly rather than leaving them to fend for themselves in their more feeble state. Done.]]> 2016-08-30 19:20:02 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120680014 polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120680316 Right, sounds good. How civilized has it been that for centuries various "civilizations" have practiced infanticide if a child was born female? I mean, come on. Paleolithic peoples would have valued that child as part of their community. Done]]> 2016-08-30 19:21:37 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120680316 murdogra https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120680549 Not necessarily true concerning values of Paleolithic people and their children. When a mother got to a position where children became too much of a hassle and distracted from their ability to work effectively, their only choice was to kill a child if the time it took wasn't compatible. Done.]]> 2016-08-30 19:22:38 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120680549 polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120681127 What's your source on that? The beauty of the nomad is they were a big family and if one woman became overburdened, then the "village" would help out. Besides, one woman usually wouldn't be with too many young children. How can you defend infanticide? I mean, look, they may have had to leave an occasional child behind due to it being an issue with survival, but the systematic killing of a child due to its sex is repulsive. Done]]> 2016-08-30 19:25:09 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120681127 murdogra https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120681457 Source on that is the excerpt from Man in the Beginning that we read. "...many such people accept the necessity of killing some of their infants at birth because the mother already has all the young children she can cope with on the march;". I don't defend infanticide, just that it's hypocritical judging one side of doing it when the other did practically the equivalent. Done.]]> 2016-08-30 19:27:07 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120681457 polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120930400 Who is Jared Diamond? How reliable is he anyway? Besides, you're comparing apples to oranges. Leaving a child or elderly person behind because they endanger the survival of all is one thing, doing it because of the child's sex or because an old person is a burden is quote another. DONE.]]> 2016-08-31 18:43:15 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120930400 murdogra https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120931089 William Howells who wrote the source I obtained my information from was a professor of anthropology from Harvard while Jared Diamond specialized in many cateogories, a professor from the University of California at Los Angeles Medical School, each proving reliable. If the "village" atmosphere was so vital at that time with the overlapping significance of rolls, have individuals lost their value due to worth based on their age and how that affects survival? Is it really different if you're disregarding people of your community because they're suddenly not useful? Done



]]> 2016-08-31 18:45:30 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120931089 polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120934042 We'll just have to agree to disagree on that score. What I'd like to look at is how the Neolithic revolution created inequality among the sexes. How can you say this setting was good when a whole half of the human population was subordinate to the other? DONE]]> 2016-08-31 18:54:39 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120934042 murdogra https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120934755 While I don't condone inequality among sexes, having this change did result in alerations and advancements among humans. The push for agriculture allowed the push for other things we value such as development of markets, economic and political aspects as well as cities and temples. Done.]]> 2016-08-31 18:56:55 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120934755 polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120937236 Other things we value, oh, right:
markets = inequality of wealth and subordination of the poor
politics = dominance of the few over the many
cities = cesspools for disease and crime
temples = religious control of the masses
DONE]]> 2016-08-31 19:04:43 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120937236 murdogra https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120937529 Years of poor health and inequality yes, but without these experiences we would not have adapted and learned to overcome them in order to get to where we are now. Unforunately humans seem to learn from failure but it's what pushes us to constantly keep developing and push to improve. Done.]]> 2016-08-31 19:05:54 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120937529 polinmat https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120938308 Pfft. I'm done. (Drops mic). ]]> 2016-08-31 19:09:04 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120938308 https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120962095 What "Peas" could have said before dropping the mic hahaha is that have we really overcome our failures? We still have Global issues like racism for example, Donald freaking Trump a man that has a good amount of people that want him as president, a man who says that ALL Muslims are terrorists, which is the most childish reason everrrrr, a man who wants to build a wall between Mexico and the U.S because he says that they are "rapist, bringing crime and drugs". That there shows that we have not overcome racism if Trump is getting votes from people. And that people out there still are racist and have not learned. ]]> 2016-08-31 21:05:18 UTC https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120962095 https://padlet.com/polinmat/2b6enmc45pmj/wish/120983229 (I'm thoroughly impressed with your savagery, kudos to you Peas.) 
However, instead of getting onto the topic of infanticide, I think a better argument would be to hit at the negatives of agriculture rather than just defending our side. What I mean by that is to control the situation and force the Neolithic side to refute their shortcomings. I would have also said that everything we've accomplished now was by choice. The hunters and gatherers could have very well developed everything we have now, it just a question of if they wanted to.

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