https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7 Include one fact from the Stephanie Coontz and Adam podcast, and what this knowledge means for sociologists. en-us 2017-11-26 06:58:26 UTC 2018-12-10 20:01:48 UTC hello@padlet.com ericabuhler https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/270986532 - Pure love could be adultery love because marriage was a business arrangement. 
- This knowledge means that sociologists comprehend that the necessities for social relationships, especially attachments, push much of our daily social interactions with others.]]> 2018-07-24 14:33:09 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/270986532 vhernandez0214 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/270989496 -Marriage is a way you made alliances with groups you would not meet as often.
-This knowledge means that sociologist believe that sometimes marriage is not for love but to have access to power or knowledge for other types of culture.]]> 2018-07-24 15:03:37 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/270989496 jazleefeliz01 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/270992252 -   Since marriage was only convenient for economic or political relations, love was never in the question at the beginning. If they fell in love some time during marriage, it could've been accepted.
 -   This means people would not want to be distracted by things like love that would eventually ruin what should be more "important" to them, like business traditions.]]> 2018-07-24 15:34:43 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/270992252 cmartinez131 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271005550 One fact that I found to be interesting was the history of marriage. It was a political and economic decision for the community, instead of being based on love. Love usually happened by committing adultery, because marriage was a business. Love and marriage were on complete opposite sides of the spectrum. What this knowledge means for sociologists is apparent. They can take that information, study the patterns, and compare it with marriages that have evolved throughout the years. Today, some countries have arranged marriages, but many countries also marry for love. Particularly in America, traditions are slowly changing. Though it's taken time, love is winning. ]]> 2018-07-24 18:24:50 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271005550 kaleydoscope https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271021801 I found it interesting that in order to keep a relationship going, you have to find meaning in other places and bring them back to the relationship. It's very common to hear people get divorced in X amount of years and although it can be for various reasons, I've heard many of times that the relationship becomes stagnant, leaving both parties unhappy. You can't just depend on the other person to bring new things to the relationship. Sociologists can use this information to determine what things can help better a relationship, keep it fresh and lengthen the overall marriage.]]> 2018-07-24 22:22:05 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271021801 mariely_diaz_825 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271023507 Share house chores and and child care!!! It saves marriages!!!
It was explained that through research it was discovered that people who married in the 90's and who did not share house work and child care were unhappy and were in sexless marriages compared to those happy marriages that shared work and responsibilities while having a higher amount of sex.]]> 2018-07-24 22:52:17 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271023507 damaris_caraballo21 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271050563 The main thing that interested me most was the difference from marriage in the past. Marriage in the past was a way to provide stability and not happiness. It seemed to be a much more depressing way to live. This knowledge allows for sociologists to study marriage now. It's a way of understanding why some couples or races/ethnicities
 treat marriage differently. It helps them provide a better understanding overall. ]]> 2018-07-25 02:59:20 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271050563 charlie_carroll0928 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271054358 One fact from the podcast is that love was not the reason for getting married in the past, it was more about making a decision that would help everyone like in the economy and help the family be more sable later on in their lives. Eventually the married couple may fall in love at some point in the marriage. This knowledge means that sociologists look at marriage differently as it was not always about love and it was about other reasons that they had not thought of before like in modern days.]]> 2018-07-25 03:31:26 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271054358 mazzurco1191 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271114412 kids coming from educated parents are more likely to attend college. to close social gaps and poverty we need to make education more affordable. ]]> 2018-07-25 18:40:26 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271114412 alexislauren27 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271128984 One fact I found interesting from the Podcast was the statistic that married couples who share the amount of family work such as housework, actually have less marital satisfaction than families who don't share the work. This stood out to me because I've always though that couples who share the work would be the happiest. ]]> 2018-07-25 22:49:26 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271128984 rarity440 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271131555 I found the conversation of arranged/political marriages and family structure being a political tool fascinating. Sociologists can learn a lot about what drove society back in those ages. We can see a stark contrast from medieval to modern marriages. ]]> 2018-07-25 23:21:24 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271131555 pixter0205 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271139091 I found the conversation of attraction between men and women intriguing because it made me realize a lot of our socially constructed "standards" for dating and finding a partner. Men associate love with protecting, providing and explaining - or really over explaining. One thing I found interesting is how she basically states that this could be one of the roots of mansplaining. They then go on to explain how women associate love with attracting the imperfect bad boy who has the bad streak or seems dangerous and trying to fix them or tame them. This is almost setting women up for abusive relationships because we're taught that this bad rough behavior is normal and it's our job to fix them. This knowledge for sociologists could mean that they can better understand abusive relationships and how this impacts both of the lives of the abuser and the abused in regards to friends, family and co-workers.]]> 2018-07-26 00:36:05 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271139091 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271145163 To me arrange marriage is nothing new. In my cultural/ Tradition it is a common practice. Sometimes to create a bond between family or sometimes for the best of the children. ]]> 2018-07-26 01:27:10 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271145163 angiea146 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271145867 A fact I found kind of mind blowing is people couldn't just divorce back in the day if they wanted to and that it was based more on a stability level vs all the other things we get married for now a days like just pure love. What this knowledge means for sociologist is they will have a more profound look at marriage ans the reasoning why few people decide to marry. ]]> 2018-07-26 01:30:27 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271145867 mloganbisson https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271147753 I found it intriguing when Stephanie stated that in history it was said that the only true love was adultery. Sociologists might view this perspective and compare it with trends of why married couples choose to stay married. If not for love, then what? Money? Stability for the children? Sociologists might then study if marriage is even a good parameter for measuring the happiness of couples. If a couple is engaged in true love, is a legal document even necessary?]]> 2018-07-26 01:48:07 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271147753 skylartoto123 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271148596 I found it interesting that in old arranged marriages, it was looked down upon to call the partner pet names. It was seen as disrespecting authority. You could love the person, but if you love them too much it could be seen as adultery. For sociologists this means, people were forced to marry due to other situations regardless of if you loved them. ]]> 2018-07-26 01:57:16 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271148596 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271157012 Using pet names for the one you show affection to was discouraged. It would complicate the social relationship, and the authority relationship between men and women.

]]> 2018-07-26 02:58:49 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271157012 suehaylee77 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271159109 i found it interesting to see that before being married for love wasn't as sen but more, marriage was a tool to find economic stability and to make a stable family. Then eventually, the 2 would fall in love. This to me is strange because I had only seen or heard of this happening in movies like The Wedding Planner. This knowledge for sociologists gives a different look into marriage, looking at the needs rather than the wants/desires of those included]]> 2018-07-26 03:22:20 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271159109 psternica https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271161799 Something I found useful is that many people didn't marry for love, which is common today especially in United States. However people married for stablilty and then later hopefully fall in love. This help sociologist understand why there was so much divorces during those time period and understand how the reasoning for marriage and divorce rates relate ]]> 2018-07-26 03:58:28 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271161799 hotmama_e1 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271205215 Courtney love was when you had love specifically for someone other than your wife back in day. ]]> 2018-07-26 14:42:35 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271205215 alex220 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271232775 One fact that I thought was interesting from the podcast was that many religious leaders (both protestant and catholic) believed that loving your spouse to much was a form of adultery. This was believed because it would distract you from your real commitments to God, community, and in-laws. 

]]> 2018-07-26 22:08:34 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/271232775 tmellouli1 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311051346 I found it interesting how marriages were used as a tool for wealth, political gain, or maintaining family bonds. They can still be used this way now, but marrying for love is more common. ]]> 2018-12-04 18:12:19 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311051346 valbino5 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311151486 One interest fact I heard from the podcast was how many religious leaders stated loving your partner too much was a form of adultery because it distracted you from your real commitments to god, community and in-laws. 

]]> 2018-12-04 21:31:02 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311151486 jillianshock1213 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311198562 Something that I found to be very useful is when they said a basis of commonality is essential for a good and healthy relationship. With this commonality, you can appreciate one another as you continue to build individuality. Sociologists can use this information to analyze the phrase "opposites attract". Maybe couples can have opposite interests, but they may have a commonality in the way they feel about certain situations, which strengthens their bond socially. ]]> 2018-12-05 01:42:51 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311198562 brittanymatthews1113 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311634542 One thing I Heard from the Podcast that was interesting is only real love and marriage was a business relationship. Marriage was arranged. In a different culture, they still do that as in today world. ]]> 2018-12-05 23:44:18 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311634542 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311658731 2018-12-06 02:19:38 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311658731 gavinrray https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311692609 I thought it was rather wild to hear that the primary Chinese word for love before the 20's was rooted in a negative connotation. This goes to show just how much people de-valued love and over-valued marriage in itself as if it were like a life "move" or "play" too advance yourself. ]]> 2018-12-06 07:17:26 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/311692609 arauzcoba https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312004008 In all honesty, it blows my mind how such a heart warming action has reevaluated throughout the years. To think that loving too much was more of a wrong doing instead of the right thing, insane! From an outside perspective I can see where it could clout your judgement but, at the end its all about how it will make your relationship stronger. ]]> 2018-12-06 19:34:08 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312004008 boothkaitlyn6 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312094378 I though it was really crazy and interesting that some people think that loving your partner too much is "distracting" you from other things in life. I feel like you should be able to love your partner a lot and still be productive in other aspects of life. ]]> 2018-12-07 01:58:57 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312094378 nvandick https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312098529 The one fact that I found useful was when Coontz mentioned how marriages used to be, and still are sometimes made as "business arrangements" on the basis of money or wealth. This is often something that I forget about since I always look at the emotional side of relationships and forget that emotions aren't the only reason people get married. ]]> 2018-12-07 02:28:59 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312098529 nogard9810 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312297877 I have taken from Coontz that some cultures prefer marriage as a business arrangement with less emotion attached.Well, this business arrangement may work for many marriages because many couples who have married for what they believed was love later divorced for many other reasons. Looking beyond emotions, may help many couples before making a lifetime commitment.]]> 2018-12-07 16:26:07 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312297877 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312315066 One fact that was very interesting to me was the religious idea that loving your spouse too much was a form of adultery because it distracted you from real commitments such as god and  in-laws. 

]]> 2018-12-07 16:57:52 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312315066 AndrewLockwood1 https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312442413 Stephanie Coontz said that socially jealousy often came from financial or status based issues, instead of the actual act of sleeping around because if a child was born from someone of status, that child could be eligible to take claim of their inheritance. This could help a sociologist understand the basis of actual jealousy in relationships. ]]> 2018-12-07 23:10:17 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/312442413 athenasliterature https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/313147209 It was interesting to understand that today's culture of romance is so recent and that too much affection was considered a sinful or adulterous thing. Marriages as a business relationship is something we often are aware of, but don't consider the reality of. It is interesting to thing that love can be founded off of nothing but pure financial gain and that it is not something that is biologically necessary.]]> 2018-12-10 19:59:45 UTC https://padlet.com/epicpants/265hnrt049t7/wish/313147209