https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l Consider how these statements apply to the chapters of the book we have read so far. Choose one of the statements below. Write whether you believe it is TRUE or FALSE, and explain your answer using one of the scenes from the book. en-us 2021-01-29 12:42:04 UTC 2021-02-02 15:11:49 UTC hello@padlet.com jasmin_jordan https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140665887 I feel like this is a false claim because usually you hire help in the house because you don't have time to do it yourself or a busy job or a lot of kids or you don't like cleaning yourself or in this case, your house is so big that you cannot do it on your own, but that does not mean you make it harder on the people helping you. Also, I feel like that is a selfish thing to say because back then, some people didn't choose to have that job, I know African-Americans were discriminated against and had to get "lower" jobs like being a maid, so you should at least make the job easier on them, they are just trying to provide for their family. For example, on page 99, Nick says "He took out a pile of shirts and began throwing them, one by one before us, shirts of sheer linen and thick silk and fine
flannel which lost their folds as they fell and covered the table in many-colored disarray. While we admired he brought more and the soft rich heap mounted higher—shirts with stripes and scrolls and plaids in coral and apple-green and
lavender and faint orange with monograms of Indian blue." Gatsby is being selfish and kind of arrogant because his help folded those shirts up for him perfectly, but he does not care and is just throwing them out to show off and he doesn't care because he is not the one that is folding the shirts.]]> 2021-01-29 14:07:24 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140665887 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140706589 I believe this statement to be false because having people around doesn't stop someone from having bad behavior. Sure, it would be embarrassing and rumors would spread, but people can still be rude.

For example, the party Nick is invited to. The host, Gatsby does not know everyone in the house and yet he takes calls during the party and does not introduce himself to the new guests whom are just arriving. Because of this (and partially his mysterious nature) rumors begin to spread. Rumors that he killed a man or was a German agent.]]> 2021-01-29 14:16:06 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140706589 ailish_humphreys https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140783845 I believe this statement is false because it associates helping financially struggling people with carless messes. If the true intention was to help others financially, there are more effective and better ways to do so. I believe that the intention behind hiring these people was not to help them, but to justify throwing outrageous parties. If Gatsby or the other characters were interested in the wellbeing of the cleaning staff, they would not continue to make unnecessary cluter. Nick describes how "eight servants, including an extra garderner, toiled all day with mops and scrubbing-brushes and hammers and garden-shears, repairing the ravages of the night before" (39). The parties thrown by Gatsby are not to benefit the cleaning staff, but to satisfy his own selfish desires. None of the characters make any effort to communicate with the cleaning staff and Nick barely mentions the working class, a indication that the rich and powerful are not interested in helping the working class. ]]> 2021-01-29 14:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140783845 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140786299 When we were young, we often were ignorant of the world around us. We didn't see the flaws in the world around us and were happy with the way things were. However, as you grow older and more aware of reality, we start being frustrated with how the world is run. In Chapter 1, Daisy says that she wishes her daughter was a fool. Daisy, since she has seen how intelligence will get you nowhere as a woman in the 1920's, would rather her daughter be ignorant of the sexism around her and be happy. Knowing that her intelligence doesn't matter would only cause Daisy's child to suffer, because she probably wouldn't be able to do anything about societal attitudes towards women.]]> 2021-01-29 14:32:49 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140786299 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140852085 I don't think this statement is true. Throughout the book there are situations or gestures that clearly portray a characters gestures, but are are far from successful. For example, on page 37, Tom gets angry at Myrtle for saying Daisy's name, and punches Myrtle in the face. This gesture shows us Toms personality, arrogant, aggressive, dangerous when he doesn't get his way, and not afraid to use his strength to get what he wants. But on his part, it is not successful. The punch does prove how strong he is, which is something he likes to show off, and in that way, it is a success. But we had determined that Tom is afraid that in any relationship, that person is only with him for his money, and he was attracted to Myrtle because they met on a train, where she would have no idea about his wealth. Punching her in the face was not a successful portrayal of personality because it could cause him to lose the thing he was looking for, someone he can guarantee likes him for more than money. ]]> 2021-01-29 14:46:06 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140852085 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140954070 If gestures/personality are actions directed towards others, then the quote implies that it can be determined beforehand if the person has a specific goal (similar to a machine). While a person can try to form a personality based on their actions, this would not be their  true personality but a performance. We see this with Jay Gatsby. He has built a personality of elegance and importance that gets him closer to his goal of Daisy loving him. However, this "character" Gatsby has created falls apart when he talks to Daisy and becomes "pale as death, with his hands plunged like weights in his coat pockets" (page 91).]]> 2021-01-29 15:06:20 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140954070 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140987031 Being carefree is one of the greatest happinesses one can feel with the greatest examples being the statement "ignorance is bliss". However one should not strive to be carefree, as painful insight is always better than ignorant bliss. Within the novel Daisy wishes for her daughter to be ignorant so that she may not suffer the harsh reality of life for women in the 20's. However I would say that this concept is flawed as only through the pain of insight can one realize the situation in which they live and work to change it. Even if one works to change their situation for their entire life and is unsuccessful their life will have had purpose, and a purposeful life is inherently more valuable than a happy one.]]> 2021-01-29 15:12:36 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140987031 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140992361 I think that is false because the main reason people hire other to clean is because they are not able to do it. It could be they are to old or they might be working all the time and can never clean. Making more of a mess only will lead them to become tired and then their work will get sloppy. In the novel, Gatsby has all these workers because he would not be able to have another party the next weekend, which would lead to a missed opportunity to get Daisy to come over. He has also had everything handed to him which leads him to not know how to clean as he acts like a child most of the time as well.]]> 2021-01-29 15:13:38 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1140992361 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141118007 White it's true that being carefree and living a happy life can bring one satisfaction, and possible success, it's also important to realize that being carefree also makes one appear less responsible. When you're carefree, it implies that you don't have any worries and live a calm lifestyle, however, this can also be bad as people might not trust you as much since you don't have any worries. Essentially speaking, someone who is carefree 'could' result in people trusting them less. However, this is only in regards to someone who is too carefree (this is just one argument against a 'carefree' life; most support it). As the novel progresses, the reader sees Daisy wish for her daughter to be ignorant but beautiful as to live a carefree life. While this may bring some people happiness, the idea itself promotes for some (in this case, women) to be ignorant of the reality they are living in. In todays society, there are a number of things people are ignorant of, or choose not to see, however this is human nature. Ultimately, being carefree is a form of happiness and worth striving for, however, one should not strive to only be carefree, as this will lead to carelessness. ]]> 2021-01-29 15:38:08 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141118007 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141132298 I don't think this statement is true because when someone is in the presence of strangers, that doesn't stop them from behaving poorly. If someone does lose their temper or have bad behavior in the presence of strangers, that would draw attention to the situation and people might talk about it, but having them there doesn't guarantee good behavior.
For example, on page 37 when Tom gets angry at Myrtle at their gathering and punches her in the face, Tom was in a room full of people. Their presence didn't stop him from behaving poorly. Another example is when Gatsby hosts parties, he makes business calls and doesn't introduce himself to his guests, which is poor behavior when hosting a party.]]> 2021-01-29 15:40:57 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141132298 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141135086 This is completely false because cleaners or servants like the ones Gatsby hired are typically paid a flat wage. They are not paid greater amounts the more they have to clean up. If that were the case, Gatsby's crew would all be driving Rolls-Royces from all of the parties Gatsby has. We are told that eight servants do most of the cleaning after his parties which includes "[toiling] all day with mops and scrubbing brushes and hammers and garden shears." ]]> 2021-01-29 15:41:34 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141135086 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141146671 I believe this to be false because the novel time and time again demonstrates that being carefree does not make people happy. We are shown two types of characters one that are free and have nothing binding them(Daisy) and two which are struggling and hoping for better days(Myrtle). In chapter 2 we meet Daisy who has no care in the world. She has everything at her disposal and has the dream life of any women in the 20's However even though she is a great actor it is easy to see past the curtains she puts up. It is clear that Daisy is suffering in the inside because she is in a relationship that is purely contractual not for love. Even though she has no care or worry she isn't happy. However on the other hand there is Myrtle who evidently has financial struggles and not the best home life. However she still finds it to be happy everyday. She still looks for the good in things are is genuinely happy with what she has even though it isn't a 8 figure bank account. Myrtle has cares and struggles yet she is still happy. Daisy doesn't have care or struggle yet she is secretly very sad. Said this I still believe that people should strive towards having a carefree life. It would be amazing to have no struggle or care in the world. However, just because you don't have anything to worry about doesn't necessarily make you happy.]]> 2021-01-29 15:43:58 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141146671 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141157523 Being carefree can certainly make people happy, but there are also examples where it hurts the characters emotionally rather than helps them. In The Great Gatsby, Daisy is very carefree with her lifestyle with Tom. (she doesn't mind constantly moving, "drifting" from place to place and stays happy regardless) However, this carefree nature is also her downfall in situations where she's faced with a problem. For example, when Tom is clearly having an affair with another woman, (most people in town know about it, and Tom hasn't just had an affair once) instead of confronting Tom about it and thereby confronting the problem, she lets it go by being carefree, which leads to emotional anguish. And so, in my opinion, while being carefree certainly can lead to happiness, it can't be an entire lifestyle. (need to be able to be brave and confront your problems)]]> 2021-01-29 15:46:17 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141157523 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141223671 I don't think people get paid by how much they do but rather how long they work. so making a mess is just making everything worse for them. If you want to help them out and you have money enough to hire cleaning help you could always just do something else to help. Not to mention it looks very ignorant on you as a person.]]> 2021-01-29 15:59:51 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141223671 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141973791 As much as being carefree can be seen as being happy, as it is the ability to not have to care, being carefree isn't the only thing that can make someone happy. In fact, some people who are happy care a lot about things. A good example of this is Daisy. She doesn't need to care about anything since she grew up in wealth and is now married into wealth. Everything is handed to her, yet her happiness is a façade, as illustrated when she says, "Well, I've had a very bad time, Nick, and I'm pretty cynical about everything." (Fitzgerald 16). Daisy is carefree because she doesn't have to care about anything, yet she is unhappy. ]]> 2021-01-29 18:35:13 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1141973791 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1142222254 Personality is a series of successful gestures, but those gestures can be positive or negative. When people act in a certain way, they successfully communicate a belief about them, which can be a good or bad belief. (I'm having trouble trying to put this into words sorry) For example, in chapter two Tom says, “[Wilson] thinks [Myrtle's] goes to see her sister in New York. He’s so dumb he doesn’t know he’s alive” (Fitzgerald 26) This statement successfully shows that Tom's personality is rude, judgemental, and very similar to that of a bully. As a result of this gesture, Tom's personality has been established through the successful demonstration of him being mean. (Again this made more sense in my head)]]> 2021-01-29 19:33:09 UTC https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1142222254 https://padlet.com/mconfroy1/1w4lzl96afxkce6l/wish/1151545397 This is false because if you hire people to clean, it should be under the assumption that it is a standard cleaning job and they will be paid for that amount of work. If there is a crazy mess, like the ones left after Gatsbys parties, the cleaning staff should be tipped for the extra efforts put in, on top of making sure the extra hours it will cost the person.
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