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      <title>&quot;There There&quot; Part IV Per.3 by Vanessa Hernandez Aguilar</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>“But Calvin is more worried about making sure they steal the money sooner rather than later. He’s more worried about getting away with it than getting the money. He’s still pissed at Charles for involving him in this shit plan. That Charles had smoked up all his shit. That that’s why they’re here. He couldn’t get over it. But he couldn’t get out of it either.” (Part IV, pg. 248)</p><p><br/></p><p>Why is Calvin more worried about getting away with the money rather than getting it?</p><p><br/></p><p>Something I've learned from Natives is that some of them have resorted to crime in order to make a living. Calvin doesn't want to do it, but he thinks it's the only way he'll get out of debt.</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"Opal is counting the swings of the double doors. Every swing in counts as one. The doctor is saying something. But she can't look up yet, or listen. She has to wait and see what the number of swings will say. The doors come to a rest on the number eight, and Opal breathes in deep, then lets out a sigh and looks up to see what the doctor has to say." - Opal</p><p><br/></p><p>Why is Opal distressed at how many times the door swings?</p><p><br/></p><p>Her stress comes from her superstitious thinking. She believes that a certain amount of door swings will determine what the doctor has to say about Orvil either good or bad. She uses them as a way to prepare herself. </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-18 05:45:05 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"Tony's just an Indian dressed like an Indian on the train for no apparent reason. But people love to see the pretty history." (Tony Loneman, Pg. 234) </p><p><br/></p><p>Why do people see it as pretty history and not a current culture?</p><p><br/></p><p>I've learned that people seem to prefer to see the glorified version of history rather than the true bloody version.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-19 16:56:54 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>“That was the problem with men like Harvey. As much as he might have appeared to change for the better, you can’t ever get the pig all the way out.” (Part 4, Pg. 253) - Jacquie Red Feather</p><p><br></p><p>I wonder what other reasons Jacquie is hiding in which she always holds a grudge against Harvey other than the mishaps that occurred when they were younger.</p><p><br></p><p>Something I learned about the Native American experience is that they still have a strong instinct of fight or flight in which they have acquired from their ancestors by enduring traumatic incidents.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-20 06:54:56 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>“That was the problem with men like Harvey. As much as he might have appeared to change for the better, you can’t ever get the pig all the way out.”</p><p>I wonder if jacque will ever forgive harvey or what he could do to gain her trust </p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Something I learned is that traumatic events can stick with them for a long period of time.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-20 19:09:33 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"You can’t ever really know how far you've come until you know where you started."</p><p>How does Tommy Orange use the imagery of a "map" to convey the complexities of Native American identity and the history of displacement? </p><p>Before reading <em>There There</em>, I wasn’t fully aware of the depth of modern urban Native American communities and how much of their identity is shaped by both historical trauma and present-day challenges.</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-21 19:24:55 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>“That dance is your prayer. So don't rush it, and don't dance how you practice. There's only one way for an Indian man to express himself. It's that dance that comes from all the way back there“ (Orvil Red Feather) </p><p><br/></p><p>What does Tommy Orange mean to accomplish by telling Orvil that the dance is his prayer?</p><p><br/></p><p>I learned that the powwows are a lot deeper than I learned from the other videos, through the book I learned that they have so much more meaning to them than just dancing and being together, it’s also about feeling united.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-22 03:47:55 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"We are the memories we don't remember, which live in us, which we feel, which which we know without knowing"</p><p><br/></p><p>How does the idea of a shared generational memory affect the characters and main themes throughout the novel?</p><p><br/></p><p>Something I learned was how significant Powwows are to native culture.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-25 18:19:26 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"We’re only allowed to be modern if we’re not Indigenous. And if we’re Indigenous, we’re not allowed to be modern."</p><p><br/></p><p>Do all native americans feel this way?</p><p><br/></p><p>I learned that they will forever by affected by their events. </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-25 22:52:07 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"Why did they stop going to games? Time only seems to have skipped Karma or to have sped by without you when you looked the other way."</p><p><br/></p><p>How do everyone's stories intersect in this last part of the novel?</p><p><br/></p><p>Something new that I learned that there can be a lot of generational trauma and the importance of powwows throughout the novel.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 02:10:40 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"We’ve been fighting for decades to be recognized as a present-tense people, modern and relevant, alive."</p><p>How does <em>There There</em> challenge stereotypes about Native American identity and show the complexity of being Native in the modern world?</p><p>I’ve learned that many Native people struggle with visibility in contemporary society. </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 19:05:52 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"Tony plays with his Transformers on the floor of his bedroom. He makes them fight in slow motion. He gets lost in the story he works out for them. It's always the same."</p><p><br/></p><p>Do the Transformers have any meaning behind them?</p><p><br/></p><p>I learned that every character had a big role within the book.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 19:28:01 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>“Being Indian has never been about returning to the land. The land is everywhere or nowhere.”</p><p>Q: How can the land be nowhere but at the same time everywhere?</p><p><br/></p><p>Something new I learned was how many Native Americans are dislocated everywhere they go</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 20:09:25 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>Blue Pg.238: " On that other Facebook she'd find the information and media she'd always been looking for. On that other Facebook feed, she'd find a true connection. That is where she'd always wanted to be. Is what she'd always hoped Facebook would turn out to be."</p><p>Q: How did blue come to want to find her parents? How did she think the powwow would help her find them?</p><p>I've learned about their search for a place to accept them and their Nativeness. I've come to understand home much they struggled finding that person, that place, that event where they can be truly themselves.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-26 21:07:48 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>“Now, you young men in here, listen up.</p><p>Don’t get too excited out there. That</p><p>Dance is your prayer. So don’t rush it,</p><p>and don’t dance how you practice.</p><p>There’s only one way for an Indian man</p><p>to express himself. It's that dance that</p><p>comes from back there. Over there.” The question I have is what did the transformers show?</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-27 05:20:53 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>""would you shut the fck up already, charlos? Just keep your mouth shut and think before you speak. It's the exact same fcking thing as cash," Octavio says"</p><p>""they needed receipts, for the grant," Calvin says, then takes a last bite and looks to see how Charles is taking what octavio just said. Charles is staring off, out the window. He's pissed."</p><p>Why was it being in gift cards such a huge deal to Charles and Carlos?</p><p>I've learned that generational trauma somehow always shows itself even when trying to move past it. </p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-27 06:42:49 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>“A man must dream a long time in order to act with grandeur, and dreaming is nursed in darkness.”</p><p><br/></p><p>What does this quote make you feel when related to our "American Dream"</p><p><br/></p><p>I learned a vast majority of the Native American population lives in urban areas just like in the novel, not just reservations like I previously thought</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-27 07:57:19 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"That was the problem with men like Harvey. As much as he might have appeared to change for the better, you can't ever get the pig all the way out." pg. 253 </p><p>-How does this quote help us better understand perspective? </p><p>-I learned that native Americans, different ages and genders all go through difficult challenges in order to find their cultural identity.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-27 09:06:03 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"People don’t want any more than a little story they can bring back home with them, to tell their friends and family around the dinner table, to talk about how they saw a real Native American boy on a train, that they still exist.”</p><p>What does this reveal about stereotypes on Native Americans?</p><p>I learned how displacement affected many, especially in maintaining cultural identity in a city environment.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-27 09:22:50 UTC</pubDate>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>"Tony's just another an Indian dressed like an Indian on the train for no apparent reason. But people love to see the pretty history." </p><p>Do some people not realise that there's a world of different cultures? </p><p>I learned how much effort and what goes into powwows. How they carry so much meaning to people who participate. </p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2025-02-28 11:28:34 UTC</pubDate>
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