RELIGION PROJECT: REFLECTIONS OF THE SONG ''IVY'' by Paula Moreno Ferrando https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4 Try to think about the meaning of the song and suggest some questions and write them on the padlet. Finally, together, we will select a final question from the different options to discuss. en-us 2021-12-01 10:29:51 UTC 2026-02-06 17:41:37 UTC hello@padlet.com Misha https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401602236 The song name is Ivy and Ivy is a five printed plant that always growing and the metaphor is her feelings are always growing like ivy.


Question:

Why Ivy? (Other plants also grow)]]> 2022-11-29 09:21:13 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401602236 Saul https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401609723 The song name is Ivy and talks about a girl that had a hysband but died and now she likes another boy but the girl feels guilty.


Do you now what is the metaphorical  meaning of IVY?]]> 2022-11-29 09:27:23 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401609723 rafa https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401611360 the song its the taylor swift and its cool the song 

Question 

Why the name the song its Ivy ]]> 2022-11-29 09:28:48 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401611360 Lucia https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401614271 This song talks about how the narrator is married at the same time she's in love with somebody else.

Verse 1: It narrates how she met this guy who iluminated her light. Also how fast and deeply she connected with him. "I'd meet you where the spirit meets the bones".

Verse 2: It explains how the other guy is perfect for her but she's been promised to another.

"And now im covered in you". It means that she can't let go of that person.

"He wants what's only yours". With this pharse, she means that her husband wants what is not his, since her hearts belongs to another person.

"My house of stone, your ivy grows". This phrase refers to the fact that in her house where she lives with her husband, her love for him grows.

"The old widow goes to the stone everyday". The stone refers to her house where she lives with her husband. Thats why she's griving for the living.

Why did she decide the name of Ivy for her song?]]> 2022-11-29 09:31:27 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401614271 Polina https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401617926 Meaning:
I think that the song talks about an affair. About a woman who is married, but in love with someone else. The lyrics say: ''my house of stone, your ivy grows, and now i'm covered in you''. I think that means that she's very in love with her lover. But she also fears that her husband might discover them, so she is indecisive, she doesn't know whether she should chose her husband or her lover. Her fear is expressed throughout the song, especially when she says: ''what would he do if he found us out?''. In my opinion, every person has a different vision of the song's meaning.
Questions:
-What is the meaning of the lyrics ''and the old widow goes to the stone every day''?
-Does the song talk about anything else apart from an illicit affair?
-How did Swift come up with so many metaphors for the song?]]> 2022-11-29 09:34:38 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401617926 Vlad https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401620674 Name of the song is Ivy it talks about a girl who had married, but her husband has died ,but now she loves another man and that makes her feel guilty.

Question

Why the name of the song is IVY]]> 2022-11-29 09:36:49 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401620674 Liza https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401621546 The song of Tylor Swift talks about a women that was married, but her husbund died so now she likes another men.

Question:

- Why did she write this song?]]> 2022-11-29 09:37:37 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401621546 Dalia https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401658409 This song  Ivy talks  about a married woman who she falls in love with another person .
"I'd meet you where the spirit meet the bones" means the spirit and bones is the  entirety of a person .
"And now I'm covered in you"means that she can't let go of that person .
"He wants what's only yours" she wants that her husband wants what is not his .
"My house of stone  , your ivy grows" means i  am her house where she lives  with her husband  her love for him grans .
"Spring breaks loose , the time is near." means what you are  saying  and are relactant to admit it.
"He's gonna burn the house to the ground" means  the husband think she's cheating with another person .


]]> 2022-11-29 10:09:55 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401658409 Xinyu https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401915587 This song starts off like a Grimm Brothers fairytale, linking into Evermore's woodland aesthetic.
How's one to know?
"I'd meet you where the spirit meets the bones
In a faith-forgotten land"
By the chorus it becomes clear Taylor Swift is singing of a married woman's clandestine affair.
"My pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand"
Taking mine, but it's been promised to another
Ivy is an evergreen plant that can climb on masonry to about 100 feet above the ground. Here, Swift is alluding to how her love for her extramarital beau has grown to where she is now "covered in" him.

"My house of stone, your ivy grows
And now I'm covered in you"

Now Swift finds herself completely enamored with her lover, but she fears what would happen if her husband finds out about their affair.

-What do you think about the song?
-Does Taylor have experience with love?
-Why did Taylor choose plant ivy and no others?


]]> 2022-11-29 13:43:23 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2401915587 Sherin https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2405772732 I think the song is about an affair where the woman is in a relationship she shouldn't be in.
She says things like ¨ And the old widow goes to the stone every day but I don't I just sit here and wait ¨ which, in my opinion, means that the woman sits and waits for her lover to come to her all day like he's dead, like the widow going to a gravestone every day and waiting for her love to return.
" My house of stone, your ivy grows " what I think she means by that is that the relationship is a bit destructive, since wild ivy growing on your house can cause cracks and damage to the foundation, and I think that's a metaphor for the relationship slowly doing small damage to her mind like ivy to a house's foundation. 

Questions:

What did she mean by "Stop you putting roots in my dreamland"?

What did she mean by "On begged and borrowed time so tell me to run or dare to sit and watch what we'll become and drink my husband's wine"?]]> 2022-12-01 21:15:46 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2405772732 ivan https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2406460691 topic of song is death

why we born without warning and die without question ?]]> 2022-12-02 10:36:29 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2406460691 Drukker https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2406576533 What I think she meant with "I'd meet you where the spirit meets the bones in a faith forgotten land" is that she has to meet her lover in a secret place where no one can find them.
 "Or dare to sit and watch what we'll become and drink my husband's wine" I think she meant that they are going to be discovered and she suggests to just wait and see what happens instead of trying to hide it and make an even bigger mess out of it. 

What is the meaning of the lyrics "So yeah, it's a fire it's a 🤬 blaze in the dark"]]> 2022-12-02 12:46:19 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2406576533 Daya https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2406582824 I think this song about a woman who is married,but in love with another person. Because in lyrics say:"my house of stone,your ivy grows,,and now I'm covered in you". I think it means that she is really in love with her lover. But in the same time she thinks that her husband is really nice person and Taylor can't decide with who she wan't be. 

Why the name of the song IVY?]]> 2022-12-02 12:52:55 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2406582824 Marta https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2408193292 I think Ivy from Taylor Swift tells the story  about a  woman  that is in a relationship she shouldn't be in.
The lyricmof the song goes like   ''And the old widow goes to the stone every day but I don't I just sit here and wait'', so in my opinion these makes refers to her lover was a married man and his wife( widow) can go to vivit to the graveyard but she can'ts.  
" My house of stone, your ivy grows " what I think she means that in her heart (my house of stone) the memomories of her lover continues growing uncontrollably and like a ivy, is very difficult for her to get rid of them.

Quetsions:

What did she mean by ''Springs breaks loose, but so does fear''?

''I'd live and die for momemnts we stole'', why you think she says ''stole''?

]]> 2022-12-04 18:45:46 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2408193292 Danil https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2408734437 I think this song about a woman who is married,but her husband has died, but she's in love with another man.
She says  ¨ And the old widow goes to the stone every day but I don't I just sit here and wait ¨ which, in my opinion, means that the woman sits and waits for her lover to come to her 
"My house of stone  , your ivy grows" means i  am her house where she lives  with her husband  her love for him grans .

Question

How to decipher the word IVY?


]]> 2022-12-05 07:28:55 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2408734437 Alvaro https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2408772186 The song details how the tortured narrator is married but in love with someone else. "My pain fits in the palm of your icy hand / taking mine but he's promised himself to another" The author asks "What would we do if he found us out?" and replies : "He's going to burn this house to the ground." This means that  she is struggling for keeping her love a secret.

¿Why is she sad?]]> 2022-12-05 08:13:31 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2408772186 Patrick https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2408813621 I think the song tells the story of an affair and that the affair came to life because of her having lost faith in her marriage
 'in a faith forgotten land' 
her affair gave her hope
'you touch brought forth an incadescent glow
tarnished but so grand'
the tarnished could mean 2 things
1. it's tarnished so he gave her hope but she still is unhappy
2.she finds having an affair bad because of that tarnished.
The old widow goes...
from that line and 2 below, could be a metaphore to grieving for the death but she grievs for the living or it simply really is a widow she knows but the meaning concludes into the same.
11-13 -> promised to another(her husband) and freezing hand because they're outside hiding or in some other remote place -line 4
line 14- she cant stop but dream about being together with him (affair).
15-16 - he embraces her and the house of stones could have many different meanings
1. ivy is a plant that can cover whole houses that could be a metaphore to him embracing her.
2.house of stone could be her heart and the ivy grows is because of him still trying to completely reach into her 'heart of stone'
3. im overthinking it

(cant stop you from planting roots in my dream lands could be another hint of it being a metaphor-those roots are the ivy roots that try 'taking over her dreams')->
4. house of stone are her not having hope/no dreams/no happy dreams - the ivy grows are again him giving her hope and trying to turn the 'tarnished' light into something even brighter (more hope)

18-19 -his curse could be his kindness(metaphore).
20-22 -when her husband is there she wants only to be with her affair.
opals are 'shiny stones' so another metaphor.
He still wants her (maybe hes even possesing because of line35)
-refrain-
line 30- 4 leaf clover means luck and bloom means spring is starting.
31- also says it
32- she fears her husband
33- he isnt sleeps because its night.
34-35 -again she fears him, she knows his dangerous.
37- moments that we stole, the small memories they made together across the little time they are together (it should be around 2-3 months-winter to spring)
38- begged to husband to let her go/affair to go because dangerous and/or save her.
borrowed time, the little time they could have together when 'the coast was clear'
39- she wants to leave her husband and join her affair.
40. she is afraid of what could happen/will happen to them if they go away (because she doesnt wanna give up on her affair-'cant stop you from planting roots in my dream lands')
41. because of ths line i reffered to him as her husband this could also have multiple different meanings.
1.im looking at it from the wrong perspective and its in older times so the husbands wine is his blood who the affair has to take- kill the husband.
2. wine is a metaphor to her and the affair has to take her away from the husband.

43-44. its a fire she tells the affair its dangerous- its a blaze in the dark- she also doesnt know what to do-shes in the dark, the blaze is a danger and she cant find a way to overcome that danger because of the darkness.

you started it-maybe they are having a confrontation because of her frustration she says its his fault or she says it to the husband.
47-48. a war for her freedom

question:
what does spirit means the bone mean?

]]> 2022-12-05 08:55:02 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2408813621 Elia https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2409290393 Ivy by Taylor swift mainly talks about a man's infidelity with taylor and she talks about the death of that man and that she can't visit him at his grave because his wife didn't know about his infidelity.

questions 
Why the name Ivy, what do you think is the theme of the song?]]> 2022-12-05 15:17:21 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2409290393 Manuel https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2412107031 Ivy by Taylor swift yalks about someone chating of on her and the pain she felt and how she lost faith. She talks about her deathand how she can't visit him.]]> 2022-12-07 12:39:57 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2412107031 Patrick https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2412113969 The Name of the Song is Ivy it talks about death, grief, infidelity... and has lots of metaphores.
The Protagonist of the Song (maybe Taylor Swift) has lost faith in her marriage, because of that she becomes depressed, but suddendly heir 'affair' appears he makes her happy and she wants to stay with him eventhough she is scared of her husband finding out and hurting or maybe even kill them 'hes gonna burn this house to the ground'.
she doesnt give up and tries resisting her husband.
In the end it seems like 'taylor swift' and her affair or husband have an argument
-->she says  'you started it' multiple time sounding like shes desperate/angry.

My question is what does 'where the spirit meets the bone' mean?]]> 2022-12-07 12:46:33 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2412113969 Leonardo https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2412140969 It's a girl who is married but she doesn't quite like her husband and she likes someone else, she's in love, she just doesn't know how to express herself and tell her husband that she doesn't like him anymore. 
- Why did you get married if you didn't just like your husband 100%? 
- What does it feel like to vent with a song?]]> 2022-12-07 13:08:58 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2412140969 Anastasiia https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2413476525 I think the song is about a woman who found out her husband is cheating on her so she started cheating on him too to get revenge
Question
Is she the widow or is that a metaphor ?]]> 2022-12-07 20:47:20 UTC https://padlet.com/paulamoreno21/1rtkpq74nqpy3pi4/wish/2413476525