Colorito v Designo by philippa mallinson

Colorito v Designo by philippa mallinson https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde What do people say about Colorito and Designo? Who famously wrote about them ? What are the big arguments? en-us 2020-08-04 22:17:26 UTC 2022-08-15 03:26:53 UTC hello@padlet.com Vasari - Disegno philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669536630 Georgio Vasari

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasari

http://archive.org/stream/livesofmostemine01vasauoft#page/n7/mode/2up

https://journals.openedition.org/inha/1820

What did Vasari say about Designo?

How do you know?

What is his argument?

]]> 2020-08-04 22:18:50 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669536630 Lodovico Dolce - Colorito philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669538383 Lodovico Dolce

http://www.academia.edu/2118064/How_did_Ludovico_Dolce_go_about_attacking_the_art_of_Michelangelo_Why_did_he_think_Titian_to_be_a_supreme_painter

What did Dolce say about Colorito?

How do you know?

What is his argument?

]]> 2020-08-04 22:22:06 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669538383 Big question philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669542474 ‘Florentine ‘disegno’ and Venetian ‘colorito’, are opposing artistic responses to the Italian Renaissance challenge of representing nature in art’.]]> 2020-08-04 22:28:36 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669542474 Agree or disagree? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669542645 Do you agree or disagree?
Why?
To what extent?

]]> 2020-08-04 22:28:56 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669542645 Key source and general sources philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669545965 Key source:

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/vefl/hd_vefl.htm

General sources:

https://www.theartstory.org/movement-venetian-school.htm
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/keywords/florentine-school/
https://www.theartstory.org/movement/high-renaissance/

http://venice11.umwblogs.org/disegno-vs-colorito/

http://www.artmumble.com/2011/12/colore-verses-disegno-juxtaposition-of.html

http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/painting/colorito.htm

http://www.researchomatic.com/essay/Colore-And-Disegno-95979.aspx

http://udel.edu/~monicadt/ARTH218/colorito.htm

http://www.inha.fr/colloques/document.php?id=1820

]]> 2020-08-04 22:34:07 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669545965 Vasari helped found the disegno academy philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669650594 Accademia e Compagnia delle Arti del Disegno, or "academy and company of the arts of drawing"

It was here that the most famous artists of the renaissance were mentored or guided in their artistic production. It was a prestigious thing to belong to this academy.]]> 2020-08-05 01:01:41 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669650594 Dolce's text philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669652474 Dolce's text l'Aretino, was written in response to Vasari's lives of artists, which did not include artists like Titian.

He has two arguments
-Titian was the greatest of the renaissance artists
-Highly critical of mannerism which he considered to be false or too 'mannered'.]]> 2020-08-05 01:04:16 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/669652474 Tim https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/674006439 I don't really agree with this statement. I think that 'colorito' and 'disegno' are not opposing artistic responses, they are two different perspectives on nature. Both of these responses have traits that cross over. For instance, 'colorito' paintings still retain a sense of accurate anatomy, and 'designo' paintings still possess a range of colour. Both of these responses are going off on separate tangents from the same origin.]]> 2020-08-10 07:46:10 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/674006439 Same goal, different means? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/674814051 2020-08-10 20:25:55 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/674814051 Shown to be a debate philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/674948672 I agree with Tim that there are aspects in both approaches that do cross over. However, in the eyes of the writers and artists of the time they were distinctly different approaches.

Source: https://www.oxfordartonline.com/page/renaissance-paragone-disegno-and-colore]]> 2020-08-10 23:07:13 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/674948672 Essential properties of media philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676233155 How important was the media of oil painting to Colorito?]]> 2020-08-11 19:50:17 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676233155 Essential properties of media philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676234040 How important was the media of fresco, sculpture and tempera to disegno?]]> 2020-08-11 19:51:03 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676234040 What was unique to Colorito? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676323199 2020-08-11 21:05:44 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676323199 What was unique to disegno? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676323438 2020-08-11 21:05:56 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676323438 https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676467022 Venetian colorito artists worked out their compositions directly on the canvas, and use patches of coloured brushstrokes to define form rather than line. A high value was placed on the application of colour to achieve optimal naturalism.]]> 2020-08-11 23:57:28 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676467022 https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676498766 media was very important for creating the different effects that are signature to each style. oil paints are really easy to blend and have beautiful vibrant colors so are extremely important for the colorito style. also, because oils take a while to dry they can be reworked easily, fresco drys quickly and so you would need to have a good compositional plan as reworking already dry paint is not possible (you would have to paint over) ]]> 2020-08-12 00:32:03 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676498766 https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676500407 Disegno often involved meticulous planning, and multiple mediums and styles of art work, such as sketching to plan the design and composition of an artwork before beginning. ]]> 2020-08-12 00:33:33 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676500407 https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676500747 Oil paint can be layered to create a sense of richness which helps to convey a sense of psychological expression that was valued by colorise artists.]]> 2020-08-12 00:33:54 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676500747 careful planning philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676500838 disegno involved painstaking planning, drawing and redrawing to get to the perfect composition. Everything was extremely considered]]> 2020-08-12 00:34:00 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676500838 https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676504507 painting nature is not the common goal though. colorito has the goal of painting a natural reality, where disegno is more concerned with portraying a truer yet not visually graspable reality. colorito appeals to the scences in the same way the world around us does. designo however appeals to the interlect. the nature of logic and reason is the only nature i see being portrayed]]> 2020-08-12 00:37:51 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676504507 this should help philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676504565 I gave a presentation last week to introduce these. Check it out for an intor to those terms https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1aKOaHtr1a3xFQ2-E8WrmmBfY9oy-F9aTuJuwCVotIS8/edit#slide=id.g5e0f674a05_0_1]]> 2020-08-12 00:37:54 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676504565 https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676510894 The point of disegno was to create carefully finished works appealing to line and logic. Naturalism and careful construction was the objective. Venetian artists on the other hand are far more interested in colour, texture and emotion. Colour and texture are used as tools to appeal to emotion and experience rather than logic and rationality.]]> 2020-08-12 00:44:39 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676510894 In disegno philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676511332 The arts are actually subordinate to drawing/design. The argument was that creative actions start first of all in the brain.]]> 2020-08-12 00:45:12 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676511332 Disegno - The Accademia delle Arti Del Disegno https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676514566 The Accademia delle Arti Del Disegno in Florence, founded in 1563 is a home for designers (of any creative field) to collaborate, discuss and analyse art. Cristina Acidini say that drawing is the father of art, however it is the collaboration between designo and colorito that allows

]]> 2020-08-12 00:48:56 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/676514566 I need to understand the process of oil painting in the renaissance philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/684297007 2020-08-18 05:25:49 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/684297007 I need to understand the process of carving carrara marble philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/684297401 2020-08-18 05:26:15 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/684297401 I need to understand the process of painting with tempera philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/684297906 2020-08-18 05:26:46 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/684297906 I need to understand the process of fresco painting philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/684298247 2020-08-18 05:27:07 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/684298247 https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686304176 there are many different ways of using oil paint to create unique effects. the versatile nature of oils is also a key aspect of its ability. in terms of the way that colorito artist used it: they had the layering technique as a fundamental proses, but the use of dark paint in comparison to light paint is interesting. dark paints would very much be added in thin layers to get the naturalist multi toned effect. but white, especially in highlights, would be applied very thickly, also crudely, to get the full power of light within the image expressed. ]]> 2020-08-19 01:05:45 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686304176 I need to understand: Was there any cross over or neutral ground between colorito and disegno? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686304639 Did anyone fuse together the styles of the two?]]> 2020-08-19 01:06:12 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686304639 https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686305414 The process of painting with tempera involved mixing egg yolk with colour pigments to form an emulsion that could be diluted with water and applied with a brush. This paint ]]> 2020-08-19 01:06:55 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686305414 philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686305584 2020-08-19 01:07:02 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686305584 Zac. https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686305689 I feel like I've gained a small amount of understanding about the two terms (and what they represent), but it'll take some more time before I'm fully caught up.]]> 2020-08-19 01:07:08 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686305689 Josh https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686306914 I agree that they are contrasting ideas as designo is more restrictive and at times can lack colour or expression and only focuses on conveying an idea while Coloreto is more free and somewhat can reflect the enjoyment in Creating the artworks.]]> 2020-08-19 01:08:25 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686306914 philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686308144 It seems to my inital research like art was very tribal, in regards to these two schools of making art.
e.g. pontormo built on Michelangelo's disegno technique with Mannerism and Tintoretto built on Titian's colorito approach. https://www.oxfordartonline.com/page/renaissance-paragone-disegno-and-colore]]> 2020-08-19 01:09:41 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/686308144 Interesting source about the development of disegno and colore/colorito philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/713338235 2020-09-01 21:43:24 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/713338235 Mannerism influence of Disegno and Colorito philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/713371052 How did Colorito and Disegno influence mannerism?]]> 2020-09-01 22:07:31 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/713371052 Arguably Leonardo sat between the two? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/713579236 "Especially relevant for the discussion on disegno e colore is Leonardo’s position in art history. Although a Florentine, the two technical devices he favoured, sfumato and aerial perspective, paved the way for the new colouristic sensation of space. Sfumato is a smoky rendition of contours by dint of shading colours gradually into one another, so as to avoid any kind of distinct edges in the objective world of the picture. An aerial perspective, or perspective of colour, is a concept closely related to sfumato, as it presumes that the more distant an object is, the more it loses in the distinctness of its hue"]]> 2020-09-02 00:43:14 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/713579236 Painting process philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/749839009 What was so special about the way that Venetian artists worked with oil paint (their painting technique)]]> 2020-09-15 22:42:42 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/749839009 Would colorito have been possible outside of venice? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/749840098 2020-09-15 22:43:37 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/749840098 How did Patrons impact on the art that was made? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/770242780 2020-09-22 22:45:49 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/770242780 How did contextual events impact on the art that was made? philippamallins https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/770243210 2020-09-22 22:46:11 UTC https://padlet.com/philippamallins/1aspypc93ol2lvde/wish/770243210