Discussion: Mathematics and Sustainability by https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2 1. Give some strong arguments for that an issue like sustainability should be kept outside the education of and research in mathematics. 2. Give some strong arguments for that an issue like sustainability should have an impact on the mathematical education and research. en-us 2020-11-26 14:29:37 UTC 2020-11-27 10:01:13 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965316574 Climate change is an existential issue and mathematics is the queen of all sciences. ]]> 2020-11-27 09:43:42 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965316574 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317016 For mathematics research to benefit society it should also take into account real and relevant sustainability issues

]]> 2020-11-27 09:43:56 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317016 The professors should be able to decide themselves what they want to teach and forcing a topic is such always bad - no matter its importance. https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317183 2020-11-27 09:44:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317183 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317382 Splitting the focus of mathematicians might impede important new discoveries. ]]> 2020-11-27 09:44:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317382 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317556 It is better that time and effort is spent on understanding the mathematics behind everything. No amount of education would make a person moral, it is better that the moral person is informed. 

]]> 2020-11-27 09:44:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317556 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317955 Sustainability is crucial for the survival of society as we know it and mathematics is an essential tool that can be used to combat climate change.]]> 2020-11-27 09:44:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965317955 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319106 I don't want to have a profession which isolates me from essential questions in the society. I am part of it and not in a hidden monastary called math.

]]> 2020-11-27 09:45:11 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319106 Mathematical models to be practically applied in industrial fields should put into consideration for example effects on the environment https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319236 2020-11-27 09:45:16 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319236 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319275 It is not relevant and will distract from the mathematics. ]]> 2020-11-27 09:45:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319275 Sustainability is an application of math and needs to be informed https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319373 2020-11-27 09:45:21 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319373 Mathematicians are part of this society and therefore need to do their part on improving it https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319481 2020-11-27 09:45:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319481 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319491 I think that sustainability is such a large issue that all parts of society that has an ablity to help should have a mnadate to help. That should take the form of research grants to stimulate mathematical reasearch which could help on critical issues.]]> 2020-11-27 09:45:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319491 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319625 If sustainability refers to societal issues:
One hot topic is the algorhitms that in some sense control our lives. Both through social media and directed ads but also things like insurance approvals and sorting of job applications.
Someone designing the algorithm needs to be very aware of the potential impact of their work.

]]> 2020-11-27 09:45:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965319625 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965320179 That totally depends on what the research subject is. 

]]> 2020-11-27 09:45:53 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965320179 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965320889 If a person chooses math education/research then they shouldn't be forced to include sustainability, which is its own subject

]]> 2020-11-27 09:46:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965320889 Mathematics might be crucial to solving issues of climate change. If we're not exposed, certain problems might never be solved. https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965320965 2020-11-27 09:46:21 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965320965 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965321476 Substainability always have to be taken into account in every field for change to happen. ]]> 2020-11-27 09:46:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965321476 research needs to be free to be creative https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322507 2020-11-27 09:47:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322507 It has no relevance https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322737 2020-11-27 09:47:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322737 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322789 Including sustainability in the education is important as it may open up ideas for certain people that never knew you could use mathematics in certain areas.

]]> 2020-11-27 09:47:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322789 If it is overdone it can potentially become routine and the topics where it is relevant might not stand out as much. https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322802 2020-11-27 09:47:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322802 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322854 There is no relation]]> 2020-11-27 09:47:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965322854 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965323796 Part of the power of mathematics is that results in one area can be used in another. Therefore by dictating research to go in a certain direction we could impede it from taking a different path which could be more powerful to get to the same goal.]]> 2020-11-27 09:48:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965323796 It should not be forced but rather just informed https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965325059 2020-11-27 09:48:47 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965325059 People making decisions about sustainability need to be educated in math, not the other way around https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965325386 2020-11-27 09:49:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965325386 https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965325584 No thanks, there are none]]> 2020-11-27 09:49:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965325584 There are no good arguments for this, try to change my mind https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965326116 2020-11-27 09:49:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ebbaruhe/1a0xgapqfsgivh2/wish/965326116