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         <title>Surprised at Victor?</title>
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         <title>Surlprised at Victor&#39;s addiction? </title>
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         <title>Surprised at Shelley? </title>
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         <title>Surprised at Victor&#39;s obsession?</title>
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         <title>Surprised how Freud&#39;s Theories Fit?</title>
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         <title>Surprised at Victor&#39;s Obsession? Angel Villa Period 6</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Mary Shelley highlights Victor’s obsession of creating life in <em>Frankenstein</em>. Throughout the book, Victor becomes obsessed with creating life and inherently constructing a creation like no other. In chapter four, Victor expresses, “I might in process of time…renew life where death had apparently devoted the body to corruption” (Shelley 48). Victor’s obsession of creating life blinds him of all possible consequences. As I utilize a Freudian approach on Victor’s obsession with creating life, I now understand that Victor allowed his ID to control his actions. Victor becomes so obsessed with pleasure in creating a creation like no other, that he loses control of the balance that Freud asserts an individual must possess. Victor does not utilize his superego or ego to deeply reflect on the consequences of his actions. Through a Freudian approach, I realized Victor’s desires to gain characteristics of a god-like figure. Victor states, “Life and death appeared to me ideal bounds, which I should first break through” (Shelley 48). Victor once again allows his ID to fully control his conscious thoughts and actions. Victor’s desire to evolve into a god-like figure once again blind him to any potential consequences. Before utilizing the Freudian’s approach, I did not understand the mental aspect of Victor's thoughts and decisions. However, I now understand the various mental aspects of Victor’s mind. I am both shocked and intrigued with the discoveries I made through the research provided and through the utilization of the Freudian approach.&nbsp;<br><br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2023-04-06 23:28:57 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Alexander Gomez (6) Surprised how Freud&#39;s Theories Fit</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Prior to applying a Freudian approach to <em>Frankenstein</em>, I thought Victor Frankenstein an ardent scholar with a penchant for exceeding the boundaries of science and nature. Albeit, certainly one with a propensity for unorthodox experimentation; nonetheless, I never found him a malignant entity. However, when he began dreaming of his mother’s corpse in place of Elizabeth’s body, the epiphany that Victor may very well harbor malicious intentions towards Elizabeth alarmingly occurred to me (Shelley 51). I must expound that I share no content in Victor possibly bearing malevolent sentiments because&nbsp; throughout the novel, I held hope that he and Elizabeth would find a happily ever after. Notwithstanding, I cannot deny that, through a Freudian lens, Victor exhibits a subconscious desire to see Elizabeth dead. It disheartens me, but the reality of matter—or rather the ego of the matter—lies in Victor’s psyche, which contains a deep, dark, subdued, subconscious covet for the love of his life to die. Lamentably, Victor Frankenstein’s true mind consists of a veiled perniciousness, incapable of relishment in human affection because of the haunting scar that his mother’s death imprinted in him.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2023-04-07 21:48:17 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Rebecca Soto Per: 3 Surprised how Freud&#39;s Theories Fit</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Mary Shelley's, <em>Frankenstein, </em>captures Victor's shift from a passionate scientist to an anxious man, haunted by the consequences of creating his monster. At first, I did not notice the connection between Freud's theories and Victor's portrayal throughout the book. However, after dissecting Victor's character, I am surprised that Freud's theories accurately express the reasoning behind Victor's actions. For example, at the beginning of the book, Victor’s id drives him to create life even though it defies the laws of science because he desires the instant gratification of being a creator (Shelley 48). Yet once he brings his monster to life, his superego allows him to realize that his creation will not be socially accepted, and he chooses to run away from his creation. Based on Freud’s psychoanalytic theories, I noted that throughout the novel Victor shifts between the demands of his id, ego, and superego. In addition, in Chapter 5, when Victor’s dream portrays Elizabeth dying and her corpse turning into his mother’s, Freud’s Oedipus complex dissects the meaning of his dream. According to Freud, sons desire to possess a woman like their mother because from infancy to adulthood they crave their mother’s attention. Thus, I believed that his dream reflected his desire to have his mother all for himself. Yet when reading your research, I found that his dream also reveals his repressed desire to murder Elizabeth as she seemingly caused his mother’s death. Consequently, I now understand that Freud’s theories identify Victor’s unconscious thoughts through his portrayal in the book.</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2023-04-10 01:24:44 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Gloria Velazquez Period: 3  Surprised how Freud&#39;s Theories Fit </title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>As I read Frankenstein, I found myself enjoying the novel, but as I read on about Freud’s theories, I found it chilling to think that Victor wanted Elizabeth dead all along. Upon reading, I didn’t apply any theories on Victor and understood him as an intellect who strayed too far for his own good and pitied him for a part of the novel. However, my viewpoint has shifted as I now understood that Victor’s id controlled him as he strove to recreate life and wound up terror-stricken at his creation (Shelley 51). Consequently, Frankenstein’s ego came in part with the realization of his creation but not fully as he refused to acknowledge his creation. In addition, the bone-chilling dream that Victor had after he created the fiend serves as an indication of Frankenstein’s true intentions as his ego lowered its defenses and allowed his subconscious to communicate through dreams, which illustrates a desire to have Elizabeth killed. Furthermore, Victor depicts several instances of an overdeveloped id which lead the pathway to a murderous spree. In reflection, applying a Freudian viewpoint to Mary Shelly’s work allows the audience to understand Victor’s driving forces as he gave into human desires. Consequently, a person which some may pity at the beginning may demonstrate sinister intentions.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Viridiana Torres period 6    Surprised at Victor</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>When I would hear the name Frankenstein, I thought about a green monster with many scares; however, I was wrong. Before reading the research, I wondered why Victor was calm about his mother dying because of a disease Elizabeth passed to her. After reading the research, I now understand Victor’s wish was for Elizabeth to die. In chapter 5 the foreshadow of Elizabeth’s death came upon with the dream that Victor had about her and his mother. In a way, I can understand why Victor felt the way he did. His lover and sister had killed his mother without meaning to do so. He could not hurt her because that would bring sadness and pain to his father and family. I am now able to understand his motifs for doing everything he did.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>2023-04-11 04:23:22 UTC</pubDate>
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         <title>Ramia Lorein Simon: Surprised at Shelly?</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>After re-reading the novel <em>Frankenstein </em>by Mary Shelly, Freud's theory enhances the complexity and deepened the understanding of the author's characters. For example, the Fiend observes the environment of the DeLaceys with curiosity; however, he choses to breach the gap between monster and mortal in which the humans greets the being with terror and discontent (Shelly 120). The Fiend's rationality transitions from this embodiment of innocence to a being with minimal remorse for humankind. Originally, I perceived the Fiend as a ruthless antagonist while pitying Victor Frankenstein as a helpless protagonist that accepts the loathsome behavior of his creation. Through a Freudian perspective, Victor Frankenstein manifests the existence of the Fiend through the uncontrollable pleasure principle to the limit that he perceives himself as a deity, with Victor proclaiming that "A new species would bless me as its creator and source; many happy and excellent natures would owe their being to me" (Shelly 48). His previous obsession of constructing an unnatural species, consequently, does not "bless" him as a noble creator. Rather, the Fiend adamantly yearns for vengeance for the creator. While reading your research of Victor Frankenstein and his connections with various characters, Victor Frankenstein utilizes the Fiend as an extension of his character in order to fulfill his unrequited desire to conceal the truth from his beloved, Elizabeth. When comparing the characters, Mary Shelly portrays the Fiend and Victor Frankenstein as both similar beings despite this separation of the natural and unnatural. Ironically, Shelly presents the Fiend with acknowledgement of his actions, transitioning from his id to his superego. After the death of Victor, the Fiend visits the body of his creator and with despair he wept, "I shall die, and what I now feel be no longer felt. Soon these burning miseries will be instinct" (Shelly 197). The unnatural being find his humanity while Victor Frankenstein requests for Walton to kill the Fiend as his final wish. Mary Shelly conveniently connects the characters to reflect the differences of the Fiend and the scientist. When taking into account the relationships of these particular individuals, I found out that the true antagonist lies in the orchestrated mind of Victor's unconscious to manifest into a human that rationalizes his actions without accountability.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Blanca Jacuinde Period 3    Surprised at Victor&#39;s obsession. </title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>As I continued reading <em>Frankenstein </em>by Mary Shelly, I got really invested in it and wanted to know how it ends. Victor's obsession was something that really surprised me the most out of everything. &nbsp;<br>He has always been interested in science especially the contrast of life and death.  Once he moved to the University of Inglostadt, his obsession increased. He decided to bring to life an inanimate object and the moment he came up with that decision he didn't focus on anything else, which led to the deterioration of both his physical health and mental health. When he finally brought it to life he was hit with the realization of what exactly he did and he ran instead of dealing with the consequences. Victor was so insistent on creating the fiend he had no room to worry about anything else. This really surprised me because as a scientist I believe that having reason is an important part because it would allow you to make cautious decisions.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Linda Flores(p.3)- Surprised at Victor?</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>In <em>Frankenstein, </em>Victor was presented as a fanatical scientist that committed many errors in pursuit of setting his name among his predecessors. One moment that always came to mind when I read <em>Frankenstein </em>was that after he discovered that he can bring life to inanimate objects, he confessed for a moment that he might bring life into a human body that got corrupted with death. This moment made me think before I read the research on the book, <em>Frankenstein,</em> that he wanted to bring his mother to life since he had little time to mourn before he left for Inglostadt. This&nbsp; must have affected him emotionally since he had no one to rely on at the university for emotional support plus it did not help that he was always in his lab. In addition, I connected it with the dream regarding that he wanted to bring his mother to life since she appeared and replaced Elizabeth. It mildly surprised me that he wanted to kill Elizabeth since I did always thought of why did Frankenstien’s mother replaced Elizabeth in Frankenstien’s dream. I was hoping that it was not actually this, so when I read the research and it confirmed my suspicions, I was surprised that Frankestien actually had this in mind. Plus that he made the fiend in order for his repressed wish to become true because I thought he made the fiend in order to truly see if his research can become true and feel proud in his work and then try to bring his mother to life in the future. Now I understand that from his childhood he developed jealousy and such towards Elizabeth since his own mother seemed to love his cousin more than him even if his mother were to die to save his favorite child. Along with his sleepless and devoted nights to researching and studying lead to the deterioration of both his mind and body.&nbsp;</div><div><br><br></div>]]></description>
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         <title>Kaitlyn A (6) Victor SUPRISED.</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>During the discussion in class concerning our thoughts of what we thought Frankenstein was, I was completely wrong. I thought, like everyone else, that Frankenstein was a monster created by a young boy. But in reality Frankenstein was the last name of an intellectual scientist that desired to interfere with nature. I was surprised that after he accomplished creating his fiend that he ran away. After reading the research, it all makes psychological sense. </div>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Just judging the book by its title and hearing certain things about it, I thought about the green monster that was created by a bunch of parts from corpses. Although after getting a deeper understanding I've realized that Frankenstein isn't the monster. The creator Victor, is the monster due to the fact that he creates a creature and simply abandons it and soon feels guilt and after leaving it. Mary Shelley presents Frankenstein as a way to show how people willfully choose to be ignorant when it comes to the potential consequences of their decisions.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Surprised at Victor- Heidi Vega (3)</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Emotions have a substantial influence on the cognitive processing mind in humans including the acts of attention, learning, and problem solving having a strong influence on motivation within actions and behaviors of humans. In the gothic novel titled <em>Franskenstein </em>written by Mary Shelley the character named Victor Frankenstein, protagonist, starts by being generally sympathetic but later he becomes arrogant and single minded. His strong feelings toward his mother lead him to neglect Elizabeth due to certain outside factors and his past affecting him making his actions justified but being incorrect either way. One might have a change in opinion due to these factors as Victor’s emotions function as much as any other human being that have risen from specific events from his life occurring causing him to act the way he does. The best form of showing through the concept of Oedipus complex involves the children's need for their parents and conflict that arises as children mature realizing they are not the full focus of their mothers attention. Victor reveals, “My mother’s tender caresses and my father’s smile of benevolent pleasure while regarding me are my first recollections. I was their plaything and their idol and something better -- their child, the innocent and helpless monster bestowed on them by Heaven.” (Shelley 33). He recalls a happy and privileged childhood loved by both of his parents. When Victor’s mothers dies he copes with it by going through stages of grief immersing himself with creating human life and continues to be haunted by his mothers death coming to terms with it. His strong feelings toward his mother with immense love to the point where he even holds a dream in which he sees Elizabeth and then he kisses her and she changes into the corpse of his mother. Foreshadowing death suggests the haunting of his mothers death referring back to the haunting of the ego where his wish projected. His negligence of Elizabeth in order to focus on his work shows further how his past affects him. Frankenstein's action makes sense why he goes through with his specific endeavors along with his feelings being completely valid through the Fruedian perspective although very odd to many in today's time. Regardless of the outside factors, Victor's large ego causes both pain and destruction to those that he loves around him. I am surprised and even taken aback by the deeper meanings behind Freud's theories and how they actually connect to the character of Victor.</div>]]></description>
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         <title>Gael Garcia P. 6</title>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>I thought I knew what who or what Frankenstein was but, I was wrong. When i heard and saw the title of the book I thought to myself, it'll be easy I've been hearing about frankenstein my whole life. After reading the book by Mary Shelly and discussing it in class I now knnow who to true monster is and the true story behind it. I was surprised about how little I really knew. I found this reading interesting because I like seeing different point of views and different perspectives of an issue, I understand what Mary shelly's meaning is and how much deeper almost every line that goes right over the top of my head can go. </div>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Prior to reading the novel<em> Frankenstein </em>by Mary Shelley, I envisioned the novel to be about a big green monster as Frankenstein is portrayed as this in movies. While reading this novel what surprised me the most was that in reality the fiend who was intended to be a malicious creature ends up having human emotions and is human like. I realized the true monster of the story is his creator Victor Frankenstein due to his evil and cold hearted actions throughout the book. He shows he is a negligent father towards his fiend he created, he shows his desires to kill Elizabeth and pushes everyone away. This showed he was a cold hearted person, where at the beginning of the novel I had a perception of him being the one that would be harmed by his creation.- Karyme Romero 3p</div>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>Prior to reading Mary Shelley's gothic novel <em>Frankenstin </em>I recognized Frankenstine to be a tall green creature full of scars and bolts. I would never have imagined that Frankenstein was the last name of the creator of the creature. As I was reading Victor’s retelling to Walton I took pity on Victor. Having loss his mother and young William. It seemed that tragedy seemed to follow this unfortunate scientist. As I was reading Victor’s description of Elizabeth and her introduction to his young self, I could not help but admire the deep love that he displayed for the lovely Elizabeth. Victor&nbsp; calls Elizabeth "the beautiful and adored companion of all my occupations and my pleasures" (Shelley 30). Shelley's description of Victor's admiration towards Elizabeth would have never lead me to imagine the complete change in feelings. I was pretty dismissive towards Victor's dream which revealed his true underlying feelings towards Elizabeth. After all a dream is a heart’s deep desire. Though it can be understandable that Victor might hold resentment towards Elizabeth for it was her disease that killed his mother. He unjustly subconsciously cast the blame on Elizabeth for it was his mother who CHOSE to tend to Elizabeth.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<div>When I first read Frankenstein in 8th grade, I thought I had a really good understanding of why Victor wanted to create a life from death, however, I was surprised by Victor's obsession over his goal and the cause of his obsession. I did not realize that Victor's obsession over death had to do with his mother, but now that I've reread the novel and discussed its meaning on a deeper level it makes sense. He did not have time to mourn his mother's death completely and this can be seen in the dream he has of Elizabeth. As he runs towards her and hugs her, she then suddenly turns to the corpse of his mother (Shelley 51-52). Although Shelley makes her readers believe that Victor decided to complete his goal, because he wanted to prove that he is a brilliant scientist the dream reveals the true cause, an unconscious cause. </div>]]></description>
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