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Wait!  I thought Uncle Ben died in a hospital while Peter cursed God.

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Wait!  I thought Uncle Ben died in a hospital while Peter cursed God.

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You know, I was going to put a link in here to the Amazing Grace issues that had that hospital scene, but I just can't do that to anyone who has been spared of that awful comic. In fact, I dare you to find anything worse than these. Instead, I'll just leave you with the Drop that Chicken panel.

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OK, go back to the post and leave in the comments section either something I mentioned that you did not already know or what I missed!

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Well, there is a theory that Stan had written a follow up.  We know that Goodman cancelled the series and it wasn't until sales came in that he decided to let Lee create the new title.  Will Murray wrote an article on it titled "The Untold Secret Origin of Spider-Man" and I am trying to get my hands on a copy.  It is in Comic Book Marketplace vol 2 #44 in the Feb. 1997 issue. I know there is one at the Michigan State University Reading Room, but as I don't live there, I'm having a hard time getting my hands on it. If anyone out there has a copy of this issue and/or can get me a scan of it, I would be eternally grateful, give you a no-prize, and name you the Official Crawlspacer of the Year.

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I looked for why the eyes are shown here, hoping for some great insight, but all I could find was the either it is just for dramatic effect or the idea that the mask lenses are opaque is not yet solidified. I'm betting it is just to show how shocked he is.

So, a bit of extra credit - can anyone tell me who this lovely young lady is? Maybe I'll do a post on her one day...

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Please note that the actual phrase is: With great power there must also come  -- great responsibility.

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There were other stories in this issue and you can read all about them in an earlier Cobwebs post!

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Any true Spider-Man fan knows the origin story in Amazing Fantasy #15 from the famous eye dots to the iconic phrase - but what do you know about the other stories in that comic, the history of it, what replaced it, and what led to its resurrection in Amazing Spider-Man?

Amazing Adult Fantasy starts at issue #7. This is because issues #1-6 ran under the name Amazing Adventures. The difference between the two is more than just the title. Amazing Adventures uses Ditko, Kirby, Ayers, and others for artists, while Amazing Adult Fantasy only uses Ditko. On top of that, the AA had stories about monsters and such while AAF focused on sci-fi twist stories. Those early AA stories are pretty fun reads. There are crazy monster names like Manoo and Monsteroso (the most fearful creature of all time!). It's much like reading the types of movies that MSTK3000 make fun of. Take for instance issue #6 - SSERPO!

A long time ago, some scientist fails at creating a growth formula, so he tosses the vial of it into the ocean. Some crazy sea lizard gets ahold of it and starts growing. It seems that all the formula needed was water in order to work. The lizard grows and grows until it comes up to the surface and is caught by some weird looking white natives who name it. They take it back to their island where it grows so huge that it sinks the island ( Hank Johnson was right!). Nothing can stop Sserpo - not even the Australians! He grows so huge, that he can be seen from outer space. Luckily, beings from Jupiter see it and throw down a long rope and hook. And just for a touch of irony, the man who contacted Jupiter just happened to be the great grandson of the scientist who unknowingly started the whole thing a century ago.

The issue also had some Twilight Zone style short stories and mysteries in it. Amazing Adventures created the first Marvel silver age hero:

He's a monster hunter and detective and uses the supernatural to assist him, sort of a Dr. Strange figure, but just uses tricks and hypnosis rather than actual magic (although he did learn his stuff from a Tibetan lama (no, no llama, although this was early silver age, so I do not fault you for thinking that)).

Dr. Droom sounded too much like Dr. Doom, so when they brought Droom back into the 616 universe, he went by which name:

After issue #6, the series switched titles to Amazing Adult Fantasy (be careful looking that title up online...). I tried to find out what prompted the switch, but nothing I've found gives out that information. My best guess is that Stan Lee was getting tired of the monster stories (they already had four other titles of similar stores: Tales of Suspense, Tales to Astonish, Journey into Mystery, and Strange Tales) and thought Twilight Zone-esque stories would be better sellers. Sometimes Lee took ideas from Twilight Zone, but Twilight Zone seemed to take stories from Marvel as well.

The "Adult" in the title was not meant to convey anything remotely in connection with 50 Shades of Jean Grey. Instead, it was a device used to try and gain more readers. Shocking that it did not work. They even put a banner on the cover, "The magazine that respects your intelligence!" My guess is that this had a lot more to do with trying to get away from the juvenile delinquency stigma that Dr. Wertham put on the book rather than trying to promote this for older readers. And respect your intelligence it did! How else can you explain the story that featured Tim Boo Ba?

The stories in Amazing Adult Fantasy were all based on situational irony - that is, there were cutesy little twists in the stories - a hypnotist tries to hypnotize a large crowd so he could rob them, but accidentally hypnotizes himself too and forget to rob anyone - America puts an odd satellite over Russia during the Cold War. They are freaked out by it and eventually, in a panic, completely surrender to the Americans in order to get the strange object removed. Once they have jumped through all the hoops America makes them agree to, the ball splits open to reveal that there is nothing inside (Psych! Stupid commies!) - a con man buys an old house and bills it as haunted in order to bilk the locals out of their money. As it turns out, he is killed by the ghost that haunts the house and passes the job onto him to haunt the house until he can find a replacement. It's that sort of story over and over - five pages (or less) each, five times an issue. Stan Lee said he would give Ditko a one line plot synopsis and he would be off to draw the five pages.

In Amazing Adult Fantasy #14, we have Marvel's first mutant story. Yeah, I know people will say that Namor is a mutant, but that was all retcon crap. Tad Carter appears in this issue and is flat out called a mutant. He looks a lot like Peter Parker and people react to him by calling him a menace and running him out of town. This guy can read minds and has telekinetic powers. A mysterious man speaks in his mind and pulls him to a safe place where mutants can wait until human kind has learned to be more tolerant. Thirty years later, he gets his story told in the X-Men comics.

O.K. - Enough of the pre-stuff. Let's get on with the main event! Issue #15 saw another change in the title as Lee was desperate to keeps sales up on it. He said in a letter to the fans that they removed the word "Adult" from the title because they heard that fans felt uneasy about reading a book that was clearly designated for adults when they were only teens. "We certainly don't want to embarrass any of our readers." Yeah, Lee... that's what made it embarrassing....

We start with the cover story of the new Spider-Man. It is told in two parts because it takes up the space for two regular stories. Maybe we'll do a whole annotated Amazing Fantasy #15 in a later post if there is any reader interest in it, but for the purposes of this post, we are only interested in the last row of panels.

You can see that while Lee knew the comic was coming close to cancellation, he didn't think #15 was the last one. Either that, or he was trying to game the system and make Goodman keep it around for a bit (but Martin, we already told the fans there would be another one. The fans, Martin!). In fact, he even had a Spider-Man story already written for the next issue - one that would have to wait a few months before it could be used (good thing he didn't throw it away!). But once we get to the end of the Spider-Man tale, there is still room for three other short stories (five stories for twelve cents! What a deal! Think about that when we see another $10 comic come around).

This story showcases Stan Lee's complaint that it is difficult to write five quality stories every month. The premise is simple and the twist ending is... not so twisty. There is a little island with a church - but not really. It is an island of fisherman, but the bell ringer is the only non-fisherman who lives there, so there would be no preacher. OK, let's re-start - we have an island full of heathen fishermen and one bell ringer. When a volcano begins to erupt, everyone with any sense leaves because, you know, lava, fire, smoke, and ash are real bummers to island life (for any life, for that matter). The bell ringer, does not leave. He keeps saying, but someone may hear the bells. Everyone says to get off the island with them, because a. anyone left on the island to hear the bells must be idiots, and b. the job doesn't pay hazard pay. But he holds to his belief that there may be someone left to the hear the bells. Everyone, being infinitely smarter than our Quasimodo here, then leaves. The lave flows and flames engulf the church while he rings the bells. Twist ending? Someone was listening after all.

So, is this God? No. We here at the Crawlspace are proud to present you this exclusive - the shaft of light and abduction of Pedros was no other than the aliens we saw working with the Tinkerer in Amazing Spider-Man #2! That's right, folks! You heard it here first!

This one has a bit more of a bang to it. A thief is on the run from the police and ducks into a museum to hide. He is out of options when he hears a voice.

The mummy offers to hide the man from the police and to open the case once they have left. He keeps his promise.

Twist ending? The case is empty and the thief is now...

My understanding is that Slott is going to bring this guy back as a major villain in an upcoming Secret Empire crossover titled "Hail Hydra Says the Pharaoh" Here is the best of the three.

Oh no! An alien ship! It's Martian season, folks, so be wery, wery qwuiet! But the hunt doesn't go well and leaves everyone in a state of panic.

We have two characters - the man and the woman. Being a silver age comic, the woman is less than capable of handling herself and the man lays down the rules. Don't go out. Don't open the door. He'll be right back. She is home cooking when she realizes that she needs something from the store, so, not wanting to disappoint her husband with an incomplete meal, she leaves with the expected disastrous consequences.

Twist ending?

With these types of stories, it is no wonder that the origin of Spider-Man has that ironic twist to it.

Of course, no analysis would be completed if we didn't look at some of the ads:

By the way, did you now that you can still read Grit? They continue publishing on the web.

Did you notice the hand grenade for sell?

And then we have this page:

Here's the actual letter blown up for easier reading:

As you can see from the letter from Lee, they completely expected this title to continue. This is probably why he had Kirby redo the cover. He wanted it to look different than what it had been. Kirby also did the title logo in a different font. I bet that if they had gone with the Martin Goodman did not like the idea of Spider-Man and felt that the readers do not like Spiders and would not pay to read a book about a spider-themed hero. Even though Lee had already written a follow up Spider-Man story, Goodman decided to cancel the series and publish something that might would make more money. The title that replaced Amazing Fantasy?

Funny enough, that title had originally been cancelled to make room for Amazing Adventures. Oh! The irony!

And that should have been the end of it, but reader response came in so quickly (and more importantly, sales were through the roof) that Goodman allowed Lee to bring back Spider-Man in a new title (a literal 'Because fans demanded it!'). Of course, that meant something had to go. So what paid the ultimate price for our love of Spider-Man?

If you are interested in getting caught up on all these stories, you can buy the Amazing Fantasy Omnibus on Amazon, but you're going to shell out for it.

You can also find all the issues on Marvel Unlimited.

" Amazing Adventures." Wikipedia, Wikimedia, 25 May 2017, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Adventures. 27 May 2017.

" Amazing Fantasy." Wikiwand, www.wikiwand.com/en/Amazing_Fantasy. 23 May 2017.

Booker, M. Keith. Encyclopedia of Comic Books and Graphic Novels. Greenwood, 2010.

Lee, Stan, and Steve Ditko. " Amazing Fantasy #15." Marvel, 13 Nov. 2007. read.marvel.com/#/book/4746. 26 May 2017.

Nordlie, Tom, and Geoff Boucher. "Spider-Man at 50: The Strange Tale of 'Amazing Fantasy'." Hero Complex, Los Anglos Times, 8 July 2012, herocomplex.latimes.com/comics/spider-man-at-50-the-strange-tale-of-amazing-fantasy/. 23 May 2017.

"Tad Carter." Comic Vine, 12 Aug. 2016, comicvine.gamespot.com/tad-carter/4005-20010/. 27 May 2017.

Wells, John. American Comic Book Chronicles: 1960 - 1964. TwoMorrows Publishing, 2012.

Wells, Rob. "Review - Amazing Fantasy Omnibus - HC." Comics - On the Ration, Blogger, 1 Mar. 2011, comicsontheration.blogspot.com/2011/03/review-amazing-fantasy-omnibus-hc.html. 27 May 2017.

All scans are from Marvel Unlimited

Linda Carter Student Nurse

Those astute readers that make it this far down the post will undoubtedly be happy to see that Cobwebs has updated to the new and improved 8 th edition of the MLA Style Guide! Woo hoo!

Also- I ran across a reference to this article while researching for this post. "Amazing Fantasy No. 16 : The Untold Secret Origin of Spider-Man" by Will Murray. If you have any idea what this may have appeared in or if it is a book entire upon itself (doubtful), any extra information that would help me track this down would be great. Help tracking down his contact information would be appreciated as well.

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Cobwebs 40: Amazing Fantasy #15 More Than Just Spider-Man

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Any true Spider-Man fan knows the origin story in Amazing Fantasy #15 from the famous eye dots to the iconic phrase - but what do you know about the other stories in that comic, the history of it, what replaced it, and what led to its resurrection in Amazing Spider-Man?

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Is something wrong with Spider-Man's web shooters? No. Ditko never used Thwip! until issue #36. He used it again in #37. When Romita picks up, he uses Thwip! right away and it's been that way ever since.

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Climax, Falling Action, and Resolution

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The last of the Rising Action!  But sadly nothing to annotate.

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I figured that maybe that warehouse used to sell the Acme Bat-Man suits (especially since they use the hyphen).

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I created this video with the YouTube Video Editor (http://www.youtube.com/editor)

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Only seen here in the Marvel Universe. The term Acme is used generically now, but in the 1920s, it was a very popular name for companies because the word means the best, but more importantly, it starts with the letters AC, which puts it pretty much first in the phone book

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First Appearance - Mary Jane Watson (not shown)

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First Appearance - Mary Jane Watson (not shown)

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Thanks to the wonder of Parallel Lives, Mary Jane is now present during this scene.

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That's the cop that informs Peter that his Uncle was shot.

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Yet more Rising Action

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Peter's microscope was the perfect thing to show that his aunt and uncle cared for him and to emphasize the whole science buff thing.  The microscope was a constant image in the background of Ditko comics and Peter used it to assist with crime fighting and developing his webbing (I remember him using it to help make ice crystal webbing to take on the Torch).  In issue 181, he leaves it at Uncle Ben's grave site in what was supposed to be an emotional look back.  However, as soon as he leaves some guy comes along and steals it to give to his son because he had not yet bought a birthday present for his kid.  I need to remember to check the graveyards before my kid's next birthday.  There must be an Untold Tale where Spider-Man swings back by, beats up the old caretaker and takes his microscope back because in issue 290, he is upset that Aunt May allowed some guys from the orphanage to take his microscope to sell at an auction and rushes off to get it.

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That's the name of the security guard.  He's a millionaire who created the Baxter Building and just guards for the fun of it and for a short while dated Aunt May.

Ok, I'm lying.  There is nothing else about him outside of this comic.

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The Spider-Man movie had Peter not help the guy being robbed because the man had just cheated him out of money.  The real burglar story is much more impactful because Peter will have to pay for his selfishness with a severe price. He makes a comeback in issue #200. His name? Dennis Carradine. His goal? To find hidden riches that he believes is buried in the Parker house. He and Mysterio fakes Aunt May's death and tore the house a part looking for the money. When Spider-Man catches up to him again, he is so scared, he has a heart attack. He has a daughter, Jessica, and she later dated Ben Reilly. Couldn't tell you how that ended because it was clone stuff and ...

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The Plot Thickens! (but still rising action...)

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Starts Part 2 - nothing to annotate.  What?  If you want to read the whole comic, go to Unlimited!

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They laughed at me for being a bookworm, eh?

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They laughed at me for being a bookworm, eh?

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Well, if that doesn't sound like something from a villain origin...

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"That's right, we wouldn't want to lose another kid to the ocean..."

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Back in the old days, you had very limited choices for what to watch. Ed Sullivan was a hit for a long time. Here is a clip from a show about the time this issue came out.

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Wilt Chamberlain 100 Point Game on The Ed Sullivan Show

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http://goo.gl/PBh4Y - Basketball player Wilt Chamberlain talking about his record setting 100 point game on The Ed Sullivan Show on March 4, 1962.

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More Rising Action

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Sorry kiddies.  Despite what cartoons and movies would have you think, Harry doesn't show up until the college years along with Gwen Stacy.

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First Appearance - Flash Thompson and Liz Allan

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First Appearance - Flash Thompson and Liz Allan

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But we already know them pretty well, so what's the fun in them?

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He's the cigar smoking agent that capitalizes on Spider-Man's talents. He has to stop after Jameson makes it too hard to promote the masked vigilante. He only reappears once and that is to try and defeat Spider-man after Mysterio tricks him. Shiffman was led to believe that Mysterio could bring back his dead wife.

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It took Macho Man to make something better than the original

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Joseph Hogan to his mother
Bonesaw Crusher ends up being a janitor at a gym telling everyone that he is Spider-Man's pal and that he designed the web shooters and stuff. At one point, Spider-Man breaks into the gym after hearing gunshots and defeats some bad guys doing bad guy stuff. He validates that he owes everything to Crusher and the guy becomes a local hero. Meanwhile, Nathan Lubinsky, the old fart that May was dating, ends up in the hospital which makes Aunt May mad at Peter since she asked him to keep an eye on him for her.

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Marvel.com is the source for Marvel comics, digital comics, comic strips, and more featuring Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, X-Men and all your favorite superheroes.

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More Rising Action

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According to Dollar Times, $100 in 1962 had the same spending power as $804.77 in 2017.

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Value of a dollar. Calculates inflation to see what a US dollar was worth in the past and today. View historical and today's current inflation rates, using the CPI provided by the United States government. Inflation data is updated regularly, so results may differ from other websites.

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Fred Hembeck told the same story half a year earlier July 1992, in Marvel Age #114 but the boy, now grown, could only remember that the guy climbing the walls wore horn-rim glasses.

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What movie was that little boy watching before he saw Spider-Man on the wall?  I looked through movies that would have been out about that time and I feel it was most likely Gorgo. The trailer declares that this is "incredibly realistic!"

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Trailer for the 1961 film "Gorgo". A salvage vessel is nearly sunk off the Irish coast by an undersea earthquake. A few nights later, a walking sea monster tangles with the fishing boats and enters the town. The salvage vessel captures Gorgo and takes it to London for display.

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That little boy who spots Peter grows up to be a surly teenager (redundant, I know) who is an alley smoking one day when he finally puts two and two together and comes up with three.  He reveals Peter's secret to the Daily Bugle.  The only thing is he doesn't know the name and the description he gives of Peter is less than enough to look like Peter now.  His story is in Marvel Comics Presents #120. This came out in January 1993.

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Rising Action

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It seems as if the driver of this car never got another mention. No super powers, no villainy, no call to be a herald of Galactus - nothing (unless you know differently - then post a comment and let me know!

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One of the guys who hangs around Flash Thompson and makes fun of Peter.  He plays a bigger role in Untold Tales of Spider-Man.

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He's the guy performing the experiment. He was unnamed until Spider-Man Final Adventure #1, a comic I had no idea existed and is not currently on Unlimited.

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First AppearanceHector Cervantez A.K.A. Spectro (not shown)

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First AppearanceHector Cervantez A.K.A. Spectro (not shown)

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The hockey playing boyfriend of Cindy Moon who attended the experiment with her. He later becomes super powered from other causes.

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Jessica Campbell A.K.A. Jessica Jones (not shown)

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Jessica Campbell A.K.A. Jessica Jones (not shown)

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Jessica was a student at Midtown that had a crush on Peter and followed him to the experiment, but didn't get a chance to talk to Peter since he left after the spider bite.

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First Appearance - Carl King A.K.A. The Thousand (not shown)

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First Appearance - Carl King A.K.A. The Thousand (not shown)

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One bully at Midtown High that was not lucky enough to go hang out with Flash and Seymour and the Chicks went to the science experiment presumably to pick on Peter some more.  After the spider died, it is picked up by Carl who thinks, for whatever reason on this earth, that it would be a good idea to eat it.  This turns him into a thousand spiders all with the same mind.  And he's still out there...  This story is in Tangled Web #1, 2, and 3 and thankfully Marvel has spared us and has NOT put this on Unlimited.

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First Appearance - Cindy Moon A.K.A. Silk (not shown)

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First Appearance - Cindy Moon A.K.A. Silk (not shown)

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Even though the narrator says that the spider bites Peter "at the split second before life ebbs from its radioactive body", we are later told that in that "split second" it scurried away, bit a lady (maybe shown in the top left panel on this page) and gave her powers too.

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First Appearance - General Techtronics Corporation East

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First Appearance - General Techtronics Corporation East

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This is the name of the company that sponsored the radiation experiment.

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First Appearance - The Radioactive Spider

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First Appearance - The Radioactive Spider

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For some reason, writers felt compelled to mess with this arachnid, as if radioactive death wasn't enough!  And is it me, or did that "tiny spider" seem to grow large while on Peter's hand?  If I saw a spider like that on me, the glowing part would be the least of my concerns!  Ezekial Sims later revealed that this spider was an incarnation of a spider diety. However, the sorcerer Driddil revealed that the spider hatched from the egg of an Arachnix, a species of demon spider.

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A bit of Narrative Hook for ya!

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He is Flash's lackey and was always hanging around him in the early ASM issues.  He's the guy who says, "You stick to science, son!  We'll take the chicks!"  Later in life, he learned of Spider-Man's secret identity, but before he could do anything about it, he had his neck broken by Venom (Marvel Knight Spider-Man #7)

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She turns down Peter here when he asks her out. While this is the last we ever see of her in Amazing, she has a career in other titles. Sally, helping Spider-Man defeat a villain and loving the press and glory of it, puts her gymnastic talents to the test and becomes the hero Bluebird. Spider-Man talked her out of it (since she stunk at it anyway) and she decided to try and take pictures of Spider-Man like Peter did. On her way to a fight, she gets in a car wreck and dies.

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This image that BD woke up Tom DeFalco at 3am in order to see if it was the real Ditko (spoiler - it's not)

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Not a real school, but according to

The Marvel Comics Guide to New York City, it is based on Forest Hills High School in NY.  Why that is not featured on their school web site is a mystery.

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Peter's science teacher and brother to Peter's college science professor, Miles Warren (AKA the Jackal).  He later gets Peter involved in a boxing match with Flash, the Tinkerer (indirectly), and the Living Brain (pre-Ock infested).  It is Untold Tales of Spider-Man #25 that resolves the fact that his high school teacher and college professor have the same name.

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Thanks to Untold Tales of Spider-Man Annual #1

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Notice the ad for Amazing Adult Fantasy!

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First appearance of Aunt May and Uncle Ben?

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First appearance of Aunt May and Uncle Ben?

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Well.... sort of.  In Strange Tales  #97, written by Stan Lee and drawn by Steve Ditko two months before Amazing Fantasy #15, we have a story featuring Uncle Ben and Aunt May before they took in young Peter... (Images from Read Comics Online)

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The exposition, folks.

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Here is how you waltz - now you don't have to be a professional wallflower

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How to Dance the Cha Cha : Basic Cha-Cha Dance Steps

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Learn how to do basic dance steps in the Cha-Cha with expert tips in this free dance lesson video. Expert: Franco Peraza & Valerie Levine Contact: www.steppingoutstudios.com Bio: Franco Peraza & Valerie Levine Filmmaker: Paul Muller

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Take a look at this photo and self portrait and compare it with Peter Parker here.  It seems that Ditko took the hero that could be you to its full extreme. (Photo and self portrait from Wikipedia)

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I'm worried about the size of that spider casting a shadow against that wall!

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So many comics pay tribute to this iconic cover. This website shows many of them.

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How to you it?

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The AF#15 cover just never dies....

You missed one

@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:

" You missed one

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Thanks!!!

Here is one with Spider-girl. Spider-girl a lot of time does covers that were in Spider-man and sometimes shorelines but in a different way. One Story arc was Brand New May and I thought that was cool.

@haydenclaireheroes said:

" Here is one with Spider-girl. Spider-girl a lot of time does covers that were in Spider-man and sometimes shorelines but in a different way. One Story arc was Brand New May and I thought that was cool.

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There is a such
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Wow! I didn't realize there were so many issues who paid homage to the Amazing Spider-Man #15 cover!

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Déjà vu - Amazing Fantasy #15 - Homage Covers - Comic Vine

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Add? ;) The AF#15 cover just never dies.... You missed one @Emperor Gonzo Noir said: " You missed one " Here is one with Spider-girl. Spider-girl a lot of time does covers that were in Spider-man and sometimes shorelines but in a different way.

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Why does Spidey have colored word balloons?

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Why does Spidey have colored word balloons?

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Well, Deadpool does have a history of passing himself off as '60s Spidey...

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Color by Steve Dutton http://www.catspawdynamics.com/amazing-fantasy-15/

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on Marvel Unlimited

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This cover by Jack Kirby was commissioned second - something about Ditko's original cover just didn't strike Lee enough. The cover has been homaged time and time again. Of course, questions abound - who is the man Spider-Man is carrying? Why is Spider-Man revealing his identity? Why are there so many people standing on rooftops?