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In this sections please do the following:

1. ADD A NEW POST

2. In that post, write the names of EACH of your group members.

3. When you answer each question, please be sure to put EACH of your names on each answer.

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Directions

1. Get in GROUPS OF 3!!!

2. Select a group spokesperson that will record for your group. THIS IS THE ONLY PERON THAT WILL HAVE THE PADLET OPEN.

3. Read each statement and decide with your group if you agree or disagree. Each answer must be a minimum of 3 sentences.

4. Respond to TWO (2) other groups responses in the class; response must be a minimum of 2 sentences.

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I will be looking for:

ALL of the questions to be answered

TWO (2) responses to other groups' answers

all responses are in complete sentences; responses are within the 3 sentence minimum length; minimal grammatical errors

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Lenin Puchuelo
Adrian Cardenas
Nawaf Kanwal

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Armani
John A
Christian W

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: The punishment for murder cannot ALWAYS be death as there lie nuanced and diverse situations in which the classification of murder is applicable. For instance, involuntary manslaughter, especially a variety in which the manslaughter was not caused by willing negligence or idiocy, but rather an honest human mistake that resulted in the loss of a life. There are also situations where the culprit is not an evil human being and is rather very remorseful and regretful of having committed the act and should not immediately, be put to death by firing squad. There are also arguments to be made about the justice system and the integrity the judicial system holds, whether false or unsolidified convictions could result in a death penalty without a proper trial.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: The punishment for murder cannot ALWAYS be death as there lie nuanced and diverse situations in which the classification of murder is applicable. For instance, involuntary manslaughter, especially a variety in which the manslaughter was not caused by willing negligence or idiocy, but rather an honest human mistake that resulted in the loss of a life. There are also situations where the culprit is not an evil human being and is rather very remorseful and regretful of having committed the act and should not immediately, be put to death by firing squad. There are also arguments to be made about the justice system and the integrity the judicial system holds, whether false or unsolidified convictions could result in a death penalty without a proper trial.

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Lenin Puchelo, Adrian Cardenas, Nawaf Kanwal

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Lenin Puchelo, Adrian Cardenas, Nawaf Kanwal

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Yes, but it depends if it is somebody killing on purpose they deserve the death penalty but if it is in case of self defense, they shouldn't be charged. Also people who killed and were fine mentally and in the courtroom act crazy they should be ashamed and is horrible if you kill somebody you know due to how that effects their family and friends.

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Not always, unless you are tempted to kill again and are proud of it.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: Teenagers don't. This is proven by all the petty fights that break out between kids getting mad that another girl is oogling up her man and proceeding to beat the everliving life out of each other in the middle of the hallway at 11 AM for absolutely no reason. (You would know exactly what I'm referencing with) Anyway, a teenager's brain is not fully developed and thus they cannot effectively form structurally stable and credible romantic bonds with each other that have the same maturity as a connection between two adults. That's why most teenage relationships end in at best a loss in interest and a drift apart, at mediocre a couple tears shed, and at worst a teen pregnancy and single motherhood.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: Teenagers don't. This is proven by all the petty fights that break out between kids getting mad that another girl is oogling up her man and proceeding to beat the everliving life out of each other in the middle of the hallway at 11 AM for absolutely no reason. (You would know exactly what I'm referencing with) Anyway, a teenager's brain is not fully developed and thus they cannot effectively form structurally stable and credible romantic bonds with each other that have the same maturity as a connection between two adults. That's why most teenage relationships end in at best a loss in interest and a drift apart, at mediocre a couple tears shed, and at worst a teen pregnancy and single motherhood.

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John disagrees because murder should be punishment but not sentenced to death

Christian disagree because not all murderer's deserve death

Armani disagrees because even though you took a life away you shouldn't be sentenced to death.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: It is not, considering that an eye for an eye isn't always a perfect policy. There are however situations, where avenging a friend who was heinously murdered by an unrelenting culprit, especially someone who's still at large, is completely justifiable, though it is never recommended, as going John Wick because someone shot your dog might cause the harm or death of yourself or other possibly innocent people in the process.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: It is not, considering that an eye for an eye isn't always a perfect policy. There are however situations, where avenging a friend who was heinously murdered by an unrelenting culprit, especially someone who's still at large, is completely justifiable, though it is never recommended, as going John Wick because someone shot your dog might cause the harm or death of yourself or other possibly innocent people in the process.

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Briana Louise, Rebeca Zavala, Brianna Olivio

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Briana Louise, Rebeca Zavala, Brianna Olivio

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I believe that teenagers don't understand what true love is because only 10 percent would make it out successfully. And it is 40-50 percent chance of divorce.

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john disagrees because it depends on who the person is and how you two connects.

christian disagrees because some teenagers are knowledgeable than adults

Armani disagrees because sometimes its true love just wasn't the right time.

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When we sentence someone to the (totally) fun punishment of death, we're basically doing the same thing that we are punishing them for: taking a life! So, it's like telling a baby that killing is completely justified in certain circumstances. Plus, on top of that, there's always a risk of wrongful convictions, and executing an innocent person would be a grave injustice.

Finally, life imprisonment without parole seems like a better option to be honest, because it provides a better option and opportunity for the offender to contribute positively to society.

Then there's the idea that "what if it was justified? Self-defense and stuff?" that I don't feel like getting into, so I'm just going to say punishing murder with murder is stupid.

- Melody

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Christian disagree because two wrongs don't make a right

John also said this.

Armani disagrees because even if its your close friend i don't think your close friend would like you to get revenge for them.

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[No.]: Sometimes your friend is a douchey McDouchebag and ya gotta let them know by not entertaining their antics, BUT everyone is different, and sometimes the "wrong" things friends do are entirely inconsequential and should be overlooked, forgiven, forgotten, or allowed, because nitpicking every single thing your friends do and dogging on your friends constantly for doing things you personally do not agree with is an AMAZING way of having no friends. Friendless! Friendless!

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[No.]: Sometimes your friend is a douchey McDouchebag and ya gotta let them know by not entertaining their antics, BUT everyone is different, and sometimes the "wrong" things friends do are entirely inconsequential and should be overlooked, forgiven, forgotten, or allowed, because nitpicking every single thing your friends do and dogging on your friends constantly for doing things you personally do not agree with is an AMAZING way of having no friends. Friendless! Friendless!

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Lenin Puchelo, Adrian Cardenas, Nawaf Kanwal 

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Yes, because Teenagers can't fully understand the concept of love and adults have more knowledge, composure, and experience than some middle schooler. And also it is proven scientifically that a teenager brain's is different than an adult.

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No you shouldn't remain friends with someone who is wrong in the sense that what they do is wrong because then they are only adding to your burden and not really doing you any good.

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Yes because that was your close friend and someone took them away and you don't care if you killed them because you don't know them.

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Yes, I believe the death penalty should be a punishment for murder. I think this because they took a life which means they should have the same treatment. Killing someone intentionally is sick and I don't think jail time will fix it.

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[Hmm:] Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: To an extent a parent should have control over their child's life in an intelligent and direct attempt to keep them from thrusting themselves into unnecessary harm. For instance; dictating that your child shall not be allowed to hang out with the kiddies who vape in the school bathroom.

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[Hmm:] Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: To an extent a parent should have control over their child's life in an intelligent and direct attempt to keep them from thrusting themselves into unnecessary harm. For instance; dictating that your child shall not be allowed to hang out with the kiddies who vape in the school bathroom.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: Life ain't an open door lads! Grow up, reality isn't like a disney movie, ya ain't gonna meet your prince charming on a whim one day especially if you keep hoping and fantasizing for it every waking day of ya life, wishing that the (wo)man of your dreams would waltz through your front door one faithful day and start a lifelong, amazingly romantically intimate relationship, that isn't toxic and doesn't have several massive burning logistical and emotional holes in it.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: Life ain't an open door lads! Grow up, reality isn't like a disney movie, ya ain't gonna meet your prince charming on a whim one day especially if you keep hoping and fantasizing for it every waking day of ya life, wishing that the (wo)man of your dreams would waltz through your front door one faithful day and start a lifelong, amazingly romantically intimate relationship, that isn't toxic and doesn't have several massive burning logistical and emotional holes in it.

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john disagrees because if a friend is wrong and they do something wrong you should keep being friends with that person.

Christian disagrees because certain things that friends do should not be backed up.

Armani disagrees because wrong friend you shouldn't have out with them in the first place if they make bad decisions it could affect your life.

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While it's (kind of) true that teenagers don't really have the same life experience as adults, it's pretty unfair to just blatantly assume that they can't understand love. Yeah, love isn't some sort of 1 hour 30 minutes Hollywood movie about a random school in Chicago, but teenagers are capable of feeling strong emotions and forming deep connections with others! (Depending on the person, of course, I'm just kind of going off of what I personally think.) They may not have the same perspective on love that comes with age, but that definitely doesn't mean their experiences are any less valid.

Moreover, love is pretty weird, so there isn't a single "real" or "true" way to experience it. Either way, dismissing teenage love as immature or insignificant can be a bit damaging to their emotional growth and whatnot, leading to a lack of trust in their own feelings and experiences.

- Melody

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Although parents shouldn't make all of the decisions for their kids, it's still important for parents to have rules and guidelines set for them and to receive guidance from their parents. If a parent controls everything that their child does, it would only make them more sneaky and prone to getting into trouble.

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It depends on the situation and what the friend did or said. If the friend killed your family you wouldn't stick together with them because they killed your blood.

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Lenin Puchelo, Adrian Cardenas,Nawaf Kanwal

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It depends on how close your friend is and who is the person you are getting revenge on. If it was really important most people would say yes in the moment but later on death hurts and it impacts you, the victim, the victims family and friends. And just for revenge you are going to throw your life away this is a very deep question.

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i dont think this is true because theirs some people who deserve to be alone in jail to know thats their life till they die,its almost like a mental torture. seeing what you did and how it affects people. not only how it affects a victims family but also yours, how will they move on from knowing their son,daughter, mom,dad,etc ended another humans life.
-isabelle

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no true love cannot conquer all problems. No matter what there are always going to be problems. there are some problems that cannot be conquered no matter how much you try. Even with the best intentions, there will always be problems.

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[Hmm:] Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: Love IS synonymous with family in a lot of cases; for instance a highschool sweetheart wouldn't quite classify as being intrinsic with your family, but if you evolve the relationship to let's say, your fiance or something, that is synonymous with family.

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[Hmm:] Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: Love IS synonymous with family in a lot of cases; for instance a highschool sweetheart wouldn't quite classify as being intrinsic with your family, but if you evolve the relationship to let's say, your fiance or something, that is synonymous with family.

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John disagrees because restricting kids of doing certain stuff makes kids wonder and explore.

Christian disagrees because parents should not control their children's lives.

Armani disagrees because restricting children or choosing for them won't help them when there older and need to make their own decisions.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: So imagine walking up to Adolf Hitler one fateful night of 1944 and attempting to quell his outrage utilizing the "power of love" as a grand weapon. Yeah. Good idea right? The power of love ain't gonna stop an enraged fully grown chimpanzee on from sending your lower jaw to Lala-Land and the power of love isn't going to stop your house from being obliterated by a wayward incendiary missile from halfway across the planet. The power of love can conquer the conflict of a Rom-Com maybe, but realistically, ehhh, no.

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[No.]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: So imagine walking up to Adolf Hitler one fateful night of 1944 and attempting to quell his outrage utilizing the "power of love" as a grand weapon. Yeah. Good idea right? The power of love ain't gonna stop an enraged fully grown chimpanzee on from sending your lower jaw to Lala-Land and the power of love isn't going to stop your house from being obliterated by a wayward incendiary missile from halfway across the planet. The power of love can conquer the conflict of a Rom-Com maybe, but realistically, ehhh, no.

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I don't think it's possible to fall in love at first sight Even though you may be physically attracted to someone, you can't be in love with them because you don't know them well enough.

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To be perfectly honest, taking revenge by killing someone for the death of someone close to you may provide some sort of temporary relief, but in the long run it starts a cycle of violence and suffering. It perfectly ignores the legal system in place to provide justice, and leaves the possibility of innocent people also getting punished as well! It also completely disregards the fact that every human life has value, and the loss of a life can't ever be compensated by taking another.

Seeking revenge can lead to pretty bad long-term consequences too, such as guilt, trauma, and legal repercussions!!!! Woohoo!!! It's much better to seek justice in a legal and ethical matter instead of pulling a John Wick or something like that.

- Melody

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[Yes]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky:, but especially the younger members of my family as they've hardly gotten to live life and it wouldn't be acceptable in any form to allow them to fall into harm's way if preventable.

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[Yes]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky:, but especially the younger members of my family as they've hardly gotten to live life and it wouldn't be acceptable in any form to allow them to fall into harm's way if preventable.

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[Hmm...]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: Forgiven, BUT... not forgotten!

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[Hmm...]: Bryan, Osvaldo, Lucky: Forgiven, BUT... not forgotten!

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No because you would never know the real person they are based on just looking at them. They can be something you do not want in your life.

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I don't believe teenagers can understand love because the brain of a teenager is not yet matured enough to comprehend many of the specifics of love because the human brain is not fully matured until the age of 25.

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nobody truly understands true love. love is what you make it to be, what are you willing to do for that person. if anything its parents who prevent their kids from understanding true love ,with any child they learn what they see . in relationships , any relationship you learn what it is you want and don't
want in a parther.
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no old grudges should not always be forgiven. Sometimes people hold a grudge because what the other person did hurt them and left them scarred. The person is always feeling resentful and it's hard to just forgive especially if it hurts you in many ways.

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Yes loyalty is more important then love. For one you can have a argument with a family member and say you dont love them but it someone would want to do bad things to them and you find out you would look out for thm due to having loyalty for them.

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John is in the middle because depends on person and their personality  and how you act upon them and connect as one.

christian is in the middle because depends on how series the couple take the relationship and maintain a long relationship

Armani disagrees because you might be attracted to them but you don't know for sure if its love or just attraction

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Family is more important than anything else because it was your family who raised you and provided all of your care, love, and guidance. Even though the person you love may be equally important, it is only natural to want to prioritize your family, especially if you get along well with them.

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No true love cannot conquer all problems, For one theres problems that dont even inlove being in love with someone. Yeah working together might help but that doesnt mean you can solve that specific problem.

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we all agree because family is always gonna be with you while a significant other might not always be there.

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Loyalty is an extremely important aspect of friendship, blindly going ahead and saying, "Oh yeah, you got it girl!! Don't worry, I'll hide the body" after witnessing your friend probably murder someone is NOT okay. It enables harmful behavior on themselves and others and completely removes the idea of honesty and integrity, also crucial factors to any healthy relationship. Being a true friend means that you're willing to hold one another accountable and constructively criticize each other when necessary.

By doing that, we're able to help our friends learn from their mistakes and grow as individuals - loyalty shouldn't come at the cost of one's values and principles, and a true friend should definitely be able to stand for what is right, even if it's against their friend.

- Melody

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Yes because the love you have for your family is unmatched to anything else you have love for.

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Disagree, because what it means by all times is that it says no exceptions and that means you can bring the worst of the worst your friend can do and our opinion is that is wrong and have to take responsibility of their actions. They could kill your mom or dad and you will still hang out with them that is wrong and out right disrespectful.

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we all agree because if its real love over time you will eventually be able to get over the problem.

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I don't believe revenge sounds like a good idea especially since you go through so many emotions after a sudden death and at the end of the day killing someone won't bring back your friend.

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we all agree because family is everything

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we all agree that grudges should be forgiven but not forgotten

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Yes I think they should be forgiven but that doesnt mean its forgotten. Because holding a grudge for someone for a long time will have no benfits for yourself.

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Lenin Puchelo, Adrian Cardenas, Nawaf Kanwal

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Yes, but to a certain extent as long as they are good decisions and are letting the child be a kid and have a childhood. They should not be dictating their every move.

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While parents have the completely normal responsibility to do the parenty-things like caring for and guiding their children, that doesn't allow them to be hovering over everything they do like helicopters watching a police chase and the offender's car is the kid. It's important to remember that children ARE also people, with their own thoughts, feelings, and desires. Forcing children to comply with everything the parents decide on leads to a lack of decision making skills themselves. Parents aren't also the smartest people on earth, and may not make the best decisions for their children.

Allowing children to have some sort of input in their decision-making can create a sense of responsibility, promote critical thinking, and encourage healthy communication and relationships.

The goal of parenting should be to prepare children for independence when they grow older, and to help them become confident in themselves, not end up cutting all contact with their parents once they hit the ripe day of 18 years old and disappearing into the daylight and then the parents go, "why does my child hate me so much?"

- Melody

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I like to say the type of love for your family is the undying type of love and would do anything for them to live.

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It depends, because you are really just attracted to their looks but you don't know their personality but it really isn't love just attraction.

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Like I said before, love is pretty weird, and it needs time to develop and can't just be solely based on "hey that person is pretty hot" or something like that. True love requires a deep understanding of the other person's values, personality, and character, which obviously can't be obtained through a momentary interaction. Falling in love at first sight can be influenced by other factors such as appearance, social status, or just the general circumstance, rather than genuine emotional connection.

It's really important to take the time to get to know someone and develop a meaningful relationship before declaring love, because true love requires a foundation of trust, respect, and compatibility.

- Melody

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this depends on the circumstance and situation of what actually happened. in some cases, maybe yes if you're a serial killer and enjoy it. People have the ability to recover and grow, so death isn't always the option. -John

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It depends on the circumstance.

You see, if your family kinda sucks because they did something that made you pretty upset, I don't think I'd go over to them crying and whining and staying loyal to them. I'd rather stay loyal to the person who truthfully cares about my wellbeing, and that can either be someone from my family or someone I love.

It's a strange way to put it, but both are important. It's like juggling a bunch of balls but the balls are your relationships and if you drop a single one, it'll affect the rest, I suppose.

- Melody

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Family and love are two different things. Family is what is with you in your good and bad times. Family is where you can share your thoughts, and you feel comfortable. it depends on your love, how old your relationship is, and how loyal you are to each other.

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I don't think anyone does. Your brain isn't fully developed until you're 25 anyway. However none of that matters because emotions are emotions. What a person is feeling doesn't require classification if they are sure and choose to act on it.
-John

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Nooooope! Nope nope nope! Disagree! Red buzzer! Triple X!

Life is not a Disney movie, so even if it seems like true love is the cure for everything, it isn't. Understanding, commitment, and actually working to fix the problem will help, instead of sitting on your bum telling your Cinderella that it'll be okay. You have to understand the problem, commit to fix the problem, work it out with either yourself or everyone around you so everyone is happy.

If your spouse cheated, do you really think true love can fix that? No. That's their problem and their mistake, and not yours to deal with. True love might seem like the gold pot at the end of the rainbow, but it can't conquer every problem.

- Melody

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Society says if you kill a murderer, you're one too. Oh well. At least if a killer is killed, they'll never have the opportunity to understand the impact they had on the victim. Keeping them alive could be a worse punishment. -John

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That's so toxic. If a friend is being stupid, tell them. If you don't agree with a friend, tell them. Agreeing all the time shows that you're against their personal growth and you're not willing to save them from making bad mistakes. -John

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...If I dislike that family member, probably not.

But let's say I do love this family member very, very much - still probably not. I'd do everything in my power to help them, just not to the point that I'd die, because I'd like to live, thanks. If this said family member is wanted by the Italian mafia or something, that isn't my problem.

Either way, I'd much rather if I don't die, so I would not go to the point of death.

- Melody

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When you're very young, a parent's decision could affect you for the rest of your life in a way you might not want it to. Parents shouldn't have to make permanent decisions for their children, but children also shouldn't ask for things without understanding what they're getting themselves into. People can make whatever choice they want, and there's always going to be parents that make good ones and bad ones. -John

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Parents should make certain decisions of their children's life but should always consider things that aren't too serious for a kid to decide.

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i dont agree with this, they're is always the pressure to forgive somebody if you love them and that the excuse cause you "love them".but real friends are the ones who tell you your wrong or that you look stupid.telling yourself you have to stay friends with someone even if they past their limit is degrading yourself for a person who doesn't deserve it .
-Isabelle

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That's called arousal. You don't know anything about a person at first sight. Its very dangerous to assume who a person is and make a big decision without looking into it. you might wind up being way too different to even imagine anything working. -John

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We agree because i think that if you know you can save them, you will try to, sometimes the appreciation and the love for your family make you do things that you would never thought that you could do,

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This is a weird statement only because we don't know what kind of grudges these would be. If it was a stupid grudge, like how my brother broke my piggy bank when I was five and I'm still holding him in the neck for it, then that should be forgiven. It's stupid!

On the other hand, if it's a more serious grudge against someone, it depends on the situation. I'm going full 50/50 on this one because even I  don't know whether to agree or disagree.

(I'm still holding him in the neck for breaking my piggy bank. There was at least 50 dollars worth of coins and cash in there.)

- Melody

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Is there a difference? A random person who pops up in your life always has a chance to leave you. Sadly you're stuck with your family, they aren't allowed to leave you. So yes, I'd say pleasing them is more important if you want to save yourself a headache. -John

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i think as a parent you shouldn't want to make every decision for your child. a parents place is to love and guide their child,and maybe sometimes you might have to make a decision for them but if you do communicate on why you did it theres less likely to be a huge problem.
-isabelle

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It depends on what happened and how bad the person did to you , also if the person is asking for forgiveness with their good intentions you should forgive them, we should forget our past to succeed in the future.

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Yes sure "true love" everyone in the world's heart is full of love. The terrorists, the dictators, the governments, the teenagers all have pure love for everyone. Good job, world peace. No, love is a social construct built off of a primal instinct to reproduce and populate the earth like a virus. We're the problem. Solve that. -John

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No, the punishment for murder shouldn't always be death. There are many causes as to why there are murders, not justifying all the murders committed having a reason why they were committed but there have been murders that happened because the police or officials weren't able to do their job right or people didn't get the justice needed to which makes them take action in their hands. There are also many types of punishments for murders that don't necessarily require death-Ericka

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I'd be sad if they died, but what's the point in risking two lives for a small chance of saving one? If if it just results in an injury, that's recoverable. Dying for that is just suicide. Move on. Everyone dies eventually, so don't risk your own time if someone else's time is approaching an end. -John

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I heard people say that they have fell in love at first sight but I think thats just simple phyical attraction , you dont really know you love someone till you live with them or even spend every day together. i feel like its very likely that you could love someone when y'all are going to "top golf" and doing stuff but it matters how you feel on the days you stay home and clean or when you agrue.
-isabelle

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We don't think that true love can solve everything. There is always a way to solve problems, but it depends on how much effort you put in and it depends how hard the problem is.

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It doesn't depend on anything really. Holding grudges is petty and pointless. People grow from mistakes and you should understand that. Hating people takes up space in your mind that you could use for useful knowledge instead of making stupid comments. If a situation is completely over and you don't even talk to that person anymore, or have no idea what they are like anymore, then forgive them and shut up. -John

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Teenagers are at a age where they are experiencing a lot of emotions, most of them don't really know what love even is or how to show it, however some do. Regardless of whether they do or don't most are still young and as they continue to grow, eventually teenagers will start to realize what True love is or at least what it is for them.- Ericka

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Having a close friend killed could be a very hard situation, however revenge isin't necessarily always the answer. Revenge would just mean that you took a decision to where you are even risking your life to kill someone who killed a close friend of yours. However this would mean you'll be stuck in the past and the though that you also killed someone will also.It wouldn't bring a friend back to life