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I believe that the mystique of the Narrator's identity is no longer present in the movie since they make him straight and give him a name it gives us too much information about him and doesn't let us relate nearly as much

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the only thing different about them is gender and social standers woman are held to they are expected to behave with class and madame spanella probable does not realise they are gay so she does not comment on him when he has lovers over and comments on holy

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This shows how there is a differing of acceptance between men's actions and women's actions. This connects back to the idea of gender roles and how significant they were back then.

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I think that she accepts Smith because of the double standard, that wouldn't allow a woman to be as open with her sexuality as a man could. There is not much that is different about them, which says a lot about the way Spanella thinks about gender roles. It shows that in this time period, gender roles were a big part of people's judgement and development. I don't think the film did as good of a job as the book at addressing gender roles, and did not capture the original message of Capote with a major lack of references toward sexuality and identity.

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I think that Madame Spanella's acceptance of Quaintance and dislike of Holly comes down to their genders and how their gender roles were viewed as at the time which is clearly a double standard for Holly to be held to a different standard then Quaintance simply because of their genders.

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I think this shows the double standard of how women are supposed to act versus how men are supposed to act. At the time of writing women were heavily expected to be quaint and quiet, and as we know, Holly is not that. Spanella is to represent how most viewed or would view Holly or a woman such as Holly at the time.

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The only difference between them is their gender. I think this shows that Madame Spanella has more of an acceptance of men and what they do with their time than what women do with theirs. This shows that back then gender roles were very important to those who grew up at that time. Women were not meant to be around as many men as Holly was but since Quaintance was a male it was ok for him to do the same thing.

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Throughout the novella, Capote makes strong statements about gender roles. One example of this is on page 87 with Madame Spanella. Why does Madame Spanella accept Quaintance Smith when she hated Holly? What is different about them? What does this say about gender roles? Does the film make as strong of a statement about gender roles that Capote intended to do in his novella?

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i agree with what you are saying kaleigh but i also think we can tell she's running away from her problems when doc shows up and he explains how she left

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The symbol that is out of the movie that changes things is her business card that says travelling. The card symbolizes her running away from her problems. We do see her past problems come up in the movie, but she just faces those people and then moves on. The card shows that Holly has no plans of staying anywhere until she is sure of herself and her place.

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i think the cat should of had a bigger impact in the book

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Yeah it is the main thing that makes her break down at the end

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The cat is the most important and active symbol in the book. Her interactions with the cat really show her current mental state and her reaction when the cat is gone shows how her having no connections now hurts her.

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me too

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The cat is definitely the most important symbol because like Erin said about the connection that Holly and the cat have brings Holly something to care for as shown in the end of both the book and the film. This caring for the cat opens up more vulnerability.

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ya i agree with abby i think the cat shows her emotions better than she does

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Do you guys think the cat should of had a bigger impact on the film?

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Oh god ya Emily for sure excellent thinking there i was about to say that myself you stole those words right out of my mouth

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I think that the cat has the most impact as a symbol in the story. I think the relationship she has with her cat symbolizes her internal feelings, like how the cat doesn't belong to her ( she doesn't belong ). Its the authors way of letting Holly express herself without outwardly saying her emotion/ how she feels.

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i think the symbol most absent from the film would be how important the cat is too her because even though the cat is brought along her story, it doesn't have the most significant role in the movie as it should.

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Ya good choice Kaileigh great thinking :)

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I'd say the most important symbol in the book is the cat. The cat symbolizes a home for Holly and she doesn't realize that. In the book she says they are both independents and that eventually they will part ways. At the end after she leaves the cat she realizes that she can love something and be connected to something

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I believe the novel symbols the cat the most because the cat is hollys best friend and holly is attached to her so much

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i think the most important symbol is the cat. it symbolizes holly's past life and trauma that she left behind in Texas and that's why she holds onto him so dearly

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There are many symbols in the novel, Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Which symbol is most important to the story? Explain. Which symbol that is absent in the film has the greatest effect on the story? Symbols include: the cat, Thursdays, the birdcage, zoo, the horses, Holly’s “business” card, Holly’s sunglasses, Holly’s sports books with newspaper clippings, etc…

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she certainly seems to think freedom is a lack of problems

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Holly's version of independence and freedom seems to be more about being able to run away then stay and face her problems.

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she is also mentally immature and always takes the easy route instead of putting in the work to be truly self reliant

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She is a representation of a strong female character, but not in the most positive way. It is true that readers get to see her as independent and self reliant on the outside. But at the same time, the ideals her character has clearly show she is not as strong as she portrays herself, and has a lot of deep issues she's hiding from.

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I think that she puts on as strong female act. I think considering her work and how vulnerable she is isn't very strong. She wants everyone to believe she is strong and can do it all but is very reliant on others like when she keeps loosing the key to her apartment and relies on another person to get her in.

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I don't think that Holly has moved on from her trauma and that what makes her not as strong as she tries to be

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I don't think she is a positive representation because despite the way she makes herself seem independent she is really  is a dependent on others as others or even more so.

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she is a broken girl in need and putting up a facade

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I think Holly is strong in the sense of her vulnerability to begin to move on from her past trauma and experiences but her decisions in turn become harmful and express that she hasn't fully moved on.

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She's also not very self-reliant because she is constantly looking for money from rich men and looking to marry rich men

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no she is not a positive representation she may seem that way and she might act that way but in truth she was a broken girl running way and avoiding her problems instead of facing them and she reliant on others

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The things that Holly does in order to survive are not seen by everyone to be "good" or "positive".

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i agree i think she has some self destructive tendencies

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I don't think she is a positive representation but I do agree with the idea that she is a more realistic representation.

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I do think she is a positive representation of a strong female character, as well as realistic one too. Holly is not independent to the point where she truly does not need anyone, but she is independent realistically where she can care for herself, and is not a damsel in distress.

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Is Holly Golightly a positive representation of a strong female character? Holly Golightly sees herself as being an independent, self-reliant woman. Respond to this statement.

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i agree ang in many parts of the book you can just see how he is more of a friend to her than anything else

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Yes abby i agree with you as well very cleaver thinking

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i still do not believe he wants to be with her. like kaleigh said, he is more of a gay best friend. there is many instances where he shows gay traits

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In Breakfast at Tiffany's, sexual identity is such an important topic and the fact that the film took away totally changes the story and integrity of the book. I do think that the narrator is homosexual even though it is never explicitly said. The novel is meant to portray LGBTQ identities and when in the movie there is a romantic tension between Holly and the narrator it totally changes the point of the book and in a way disrespects Truman Capotes vision for the book.

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i think even from the beginning of the movie you can tell its more of a romantic relationship between them whereas in the book its more of a friendship so you can see his sexual identity difference

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i agree 100% with you Kaileigh smart thinking

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I think the narrator knows she is just using him for money but he is still very upset about it because he knows he would be a better person for her

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The narrator does have some homosexual traits, such as not loving Holly sexually. The narrator is like Holly's gay best friend and is there for her at every bad point. He is there when she sees Doc and he is there when she finds out Fred dies. The book is very pro gay and has a variety of people from the LGBTQ. Mag is transgender, Joe Bell is gay, Holly is suspected to be bisexual, the narrator is suspected to be gay, and Jose is suspected to be pansexual. The narrator was not upset that Holly was going to marry Rusty, I think he was just worried about her like a friend would be. While in the movie the narrator is concerned about Holly marrying Rusty and then does not want her to marry Jose.

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i also agree that their relationship changes when he is given a name and is straight

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she just was using him for $

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i agree, i think he knew she didn't love rusty and was just marrying him knowing it was a safe and easy route to take.

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i think he is only upset about her marrying rusty because her intentions of marrying him were poor, not because hes jealous

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i believe in the book he is seen as homosexual which continues his mysterious identity of not knowing much about him. it changes when he is given a name and builds a relationship with holly in the movie by not giving a main character a pro LGBTQ+ identity. In the book, having a main person as a gay character spreads this awareness and it doesn't come across this way in the movie.

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I did not happen to read the narrator as a homosexual as he continues to push towards Holly and truly understand who she really is and I don't see that coming from a friendly perspective, but a romantic perspective. Also, there is a moment in the text where the narrator even tries to kiss Holly. Furthermore, he comes to be very upset upon reading about how Holly is going to marry Rusty.

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i think it eliminates his mysterious identity in the novel by making him straight in the film

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thank you

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While Capote never reveals the narrator’s sexual orientation, most scholars read the nameless narrator as being homosexual. Is the narrator in the novel homosexual? How does the story change when the narrator is heterosexual in the film? Is Breakfast at Tiffany’s a pro-gay novel?

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