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Nights Away Adviser​ Support Webinar​
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Q1
Q1
Is there anything you need to do to make sure you are current and safe to restart your role as NAA and supporting members with permit assessments?
21 comments
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Anonymous 1m
When renewing permit and permit holdes end us RA's do they need to have covid hybrid style on for renwal?
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Read the Restart information
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how are the points links ertc from tonight being communicated out to others not on the call tonught who are NAA
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Guidance notes/ pdf booklets for assessors
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Anonymous 1m
Updating ourselves with the new guidance. New guidance highlighting what is new. Renewing NAA own permits.
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I could do with clear guidance on what is required for permit reapproval
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Get up to speed with the information in the Nights Away publication (wish a pdf/e-reader version was available free of charge)
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Anonymous 1m
I would think SNAPS should be ensuring all NAA are advised
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Anonymous 1m
Keep reading the guidance as it come out
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Anonymous 1m
Support NAA's to renew their permits as many will have expired.
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Anonymous 1m
keeping up to date with the latest guidance
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read latest guidance on website
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Anonymous 1m
national give us better information
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Anonymous 1m
Run a virtual real camp going over all the paperwork, process and RA within the new rules as a test run.
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Anonymous 1m
As a nights away advisor we need to do a lot of reading over the next few weeks.
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Anonymous 1m
I would like to see clear information on what is needed now to approve permits especially if new one how they can do a camp we can assess. Also when doing a renewal
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Anonymous 1m
Assessor Qus/ list of questions to ask leaders at assessments/ renewals
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Anonymous 1m
examples of permits on compass correctly completed
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Anonymous 1m
Run some training for chemical toilets in anticipation of greenfield applications
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up to speed on latest information and revise any information packs
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Anonymous 1m
24 make sure up to date with all new info
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Q2
Q2
What methods will you be using to make sure that you are keeping everyone safe, limiting contact and making the best use of the range of assessment methods available to you?
22 comments
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Anonymous 1m
Treat everyone as individuals and assess appropriately
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Anonymous 1m
Very different here in Sutton. We try to visit regularly and discuss changes by email during the last year
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Anonymous 1m
Room 22 - Take it as it comes and be flexible
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tamsinsmith2 1m
Ensuring all leaders are signposted to all the guidance/rules etc..
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tamsinsmith2 1m
Support leaders to complete RAs
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Anonymous 1m
How many Districts have Greenfield NAA
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Anonymous 1m
I will continue to be an Adviser and work with them, as not just the assessment but advice before, during and prior nights away events and the permit process. Some via Zoom and will discuss the covid secure measures needed when assessing.
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tamsinsmith2 1m
Can we use region NAAs to support districts to help leaders gain permits?
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Anonymous 1m
room 23 - use virtual wherever possible
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Anonymous 1m
Communicating regularly
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room 23 practical assessments will still be necessary
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local examples from good experiences that can share best practice
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Room 22 - will all depend upon how many you can take away - so still being flexible
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Anonymous 1m
use of zoom for renewals, question and answer session, paper work correctly completed, mandatory training in date and Access NI in date
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Anonymous 1m
Room 22 - numbers need to increase for us to see more Nights away activity
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room 23 - impractical to do practical assessments at current state
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What is the First aid conditions
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Room 22 - support people because adults will be worried and want to do it well.
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Anonymous 1m
Use zoom for assessments, or garden meetings for assessments.
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Anonymous 1m
Need to make leaders sure f lateral flow test and how to use it properly
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Use online resources where possible
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Anonymous 1m
24 online meetings with new permit applicants prior to assessment
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Q3
Q3
Knowing that many people will not have led activities and in some cases even participated in them for themselves in the past year, how will you support members with refreshing their skills ahead of using their existing permits?
21 comments
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Anonymous 1m
You could advise leaders to set up the equipment and maybe go camping
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refreshing skills days
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Carry out Induction days
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Connecting established NAP holders to share and have others come and see and help.
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Take it one step at a time and not try to do to much to start.
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Anonymous 1m
Look at frequency of nights away events pre-Covid. Some people may have a lot of experience and not need much 'refreshing' except an update on what's changed.
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Anonymous 1m
Each section having a go at putting up tents in the meetings
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knowing the leadership team and their experiences, communication is key
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Equipment checking days in the holidays
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Anonymous 1m
leaders only camps (skills days)
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Anonymous 1m
Pair people up with an experienced leader/mentor?
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Training days, adult camps, training zoom calls, google forms asking what training is needed
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Anonymous 1m
Run a week camp but go home each night
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Anonymous 1m
We have a troop doing a full weekend 'camp' without the overnight stay to get everyone back up to speed and have the experience of a camp without the actual overnight
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Groups where experienced leaders have left we are now buddying up groups with more experienced leaders
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tamsinsmith2 1m
leader camps good way to help with skills without it being an overt 'training' event
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Some leaders will need different levels of support
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people should not feel pressured because of their anxieties about their personal risks
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room 23 - treat all permit holders according to their experience and pair the inexperienced with NAA or experienced permit holders
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Pressure on NAA to ensure it is done right\
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Available for training days, staged approach to building up skills
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Q4
Q4
In the future what support do you want in your role as a NAA, think about what support you would get locally and what may come nationally?
41 comments
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Anonymous 1m
The form was slightly over the top with every Scout Id of every leader (You can't see everyone on Compass!)
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compass and log books linked
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Room 5 - compass or OSM to generate leaders log book
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Report of Compass of nights away permits coming up for expiry (and them not to disappear).
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Some of the Info in the Scout Store needs to be in PDF format and free for the advisors.
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The local set up is for a 2 night training weekend which quite a number of leaders aren't available for.
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Ability to log Nights Away experience on compass (OGL?) to help with permit renewals
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Compass to email permit renewals to NAA & DCs 30 days before expiry
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examples of permits on compass with all boxes completed
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Anonymous 1m
support for DC/ CC as granting commissioner
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Could NAA advisers with campsite permit only gain the ability to issue limited Greenfield.
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Easier forms to fill out electronically
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National support webinars like this at least once a year
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Use national Smartsheet form for NAN
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County run nights away workshops (get to know local nights away advisors)
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Compass notifications for permit expiry
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NAAs being able to see expired permit on compass
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Anonymous 1m
expiry notification really needs to be longer than 30 days - as people have busy lives and if they need to renew or want to upgrade three months would be helpful
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tamsinsmith2 1m
Have a pdf copy of the Nights away resource available to all
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Anonymous 1m
PDF version of NA resources
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OH having to complete mandatory training if on residentials
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Room 22 - get county NAA advisors to talk
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Also run regular District NAA workshops and get togethers
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Room 22 - get people to sing from the same hymn sheet to stop people getting differing advice
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When changes are coming please can NAAs be sent info by email
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room 23 - more webinars like these
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tamsinsmith2 1m
more webinars like this
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Anonymous 1m
Rm 21 more of these, every major change or 6 monthly
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Anonymous 1m
Can we get to see expired permits?
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Anonymous 1m
More awareness and use of the National Nights Away SASU
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room 23 - ensure rules are clear
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24 notification of NAN changes direct. Permit review dates accessible on compass report. Workshops from National to County and District
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Bring in a formal rule of no more local rules or interpretations
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Forum to share, thoughts and best practise
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HQ to run workshops for
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HQ to run workshops for NAA
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Anonymous 1m
can we look at bi annual sessions like this with updates reviews and opportiunity to break out and discuss ideas or challenges. can we use these as ongoing learning sessions and get evidence for LTM
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sEND UPDATES na DIRECTLY TO naa
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access to advice via email
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I would like to see more County run updated information. It was good to get fellow NAA's together. Can Compass be set up so that NAA's can see the permit holders?
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NAN forms be sent to NAA's so that reassessments can be done 'Hands On'
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Is there anything you need to do to make sure you are current and safe to restart your role as NAA and supporting members with permit assessments?

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What methods will you be using to make sure that you are keeping everyone safe, limiting contact and making the best use of the range of assessment methods available to you?

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Knowing that many people will not have led activities and in some cases even participated in them for themselves in the past year, how will you support members with refreshing their skills ahead of using their existing permits?

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In the future what support do you want in your role as a NAA, think about what support you would get locally and what may come nationally?