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Youth Exchange Podcast - Holon x Berlin 2021

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In Israel, we have a special Remembrance Day for the Shoah. It is considered a very sad and emotional day. In this day there are usually ceremonies all over the country, each school does its own. There is also a siren that goes on for one minute. During that minute, everybody stands up in silence and thinks about the Shoah. If you look out the window, you can actually see people stopping their cars, get out of them and stand in the middle of the road.

In addition, the Shoah and its consequences are taught from a very young age. In school, we see movies that were made about this time, and WW2 and the Shoah are even a part of the material for history class.

Moreover, we have these exchanges, that used to include actually flying to Germany, but are now virtual due to the Coronavirus. During those exchanges, we travel to some concertation camps and talk about the subject of the Shoah. In this virtual exchange, we talk about this subject and create a lot of projects to make it more accessible.

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3. Do you also see a chance for future-exchanges in this new way of an online-exchange?

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3. Do you also see a chance for future-exchanges in this new way of an online-exchange?

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I hope that – when possible – we will come back to exchange not only online! But I think that we can and should use digital means for preparation and for meeting online before the actual visits in the two countries. But in my opinion online-exchanges are no substitute for real visits, more a useful complement.

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2. Do you think that the impact of the exchange on the participants is different to the real exchange?

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2. Do you think that the impact of the exchange on the participants is different to the real exchange?

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Yes, I think the impact changed, but still I think that the exchange can be meaningful for the participants. Especially now during the pandemic the young people from Berlin and Holon realized some of the differences between the two countries dealing with Corona and also they found out that during the meetings it is easy to communicate with each other and that they share many things. And I hope this little exchange is like a ´teaser` and the youngsters are now keen on visiting the other country. When travelling will be possible again!

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1. What is the main difference between this virtual exchange and the exchanges you organized before?

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1. What is the main difference between this virtual exchange and the exchanges you organized before?

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There are many differences between this virtual exchange and the ones I organized before. One main difference is that an exchange among young people from two or more countries online makes it more difficult to get to know each other deeply. The exchanges before lived through the idea of doing ´fun things` together, like cooking together, visiting places, hanging out and also working on a topic and remembering the Shoah together. Virtual this is all so much more difficult. Even for me, I do not have the feeling that I know the youngsters well who take part in the virtual exchange. And this is a pity!

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At the first meeting we spoke about visualizing emotions and movement in comics and watched a few animated shorts, which had no sound. At the second meeting we discussed titles and subtitles for a poster as well as pictures which were related to the concentration camp Auschwitz.
All in all I am really enjoying the workshop.

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Bat-Sheva Dagan (Hebrew: בת-שבע דגן) was born in 1925 to a traditional Zionist family living in Lodz, Poland. Her father, Szlomo-Fiszel Rubinsztajn, owned a weaving workshop, and her mother, Fajga, was a seamstress. Bat-Sheva had five brothers and three sisters. One of her brothers, Cwi (Zvi) immigrated to Eretz Israel before the war.
When war broke out, Bat-Sheva's four other brothers and her eldest sister fled to the USSR. The other family members moved to Radom, settling in the area that became known as the "Great Ghetto" in April 1941. There was also a "small ghetto"; Jews were prohibited to leave either of them. Using "Arian" documents, Bat-Sheva was sent to the Warsaw ghetto by Shmuel Breslaw, a Shomer Hatzair instructor. She brought the underground newspaper Against the Flow back to Radom.

In August 1942, Bat-Sheva and her youngest sister, Sabina, were transferred to the small ghetto. Their parents and older sister were sent to Treblinka, where they were murdered. Bat-Sheva and Sabina decided to flee to Germany – separately, in order not to arise suspicion but Sabina was shot and killed while trying to leave the ghetto. Arriving in the city of Schwerin, Bat-Sheva used some false documents to work as a maid for a Nazi family. When her ruse was discovered, she was arrested and moved from one prison to another. In May 1943, Bat-Sheva was sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau, and put to forced labor in the hospital – emptying latrine buckets and determining the death of patients by measuring their temperature with the touch of her hand – and at the "Canada" commando sorting the clothes of victims. In January 1945, she was sent on a death march to Ravensbrück and Malchow.
On 2 May 1945, Bat-Sheva was liberated by the Allies, and went to Belgium. In Brussels, she met her future husband, a soldier in the British Army, who gave her a visa to Eretz Israel, where she went to live with her brother Cwi.

In 1958, her husband passed away. Bat-Sheva raised their two sons, completed her academic studies and worked in preschool education. She also traveled abroad as a Jewish Agency emissary.
Bat-Sheva is a pioneer in the field of Holocaust teaching for young children. She wrote children's books, as well as a book of documentary poetry for adolescents and adults, which describes her experiences during the Holocaust. Bat-Sheva also tells her life story to IDF soldiers and schools in Israel and abroad.
Bat-Sheva has two sons, ten grandchildren and ten great-grandchildren.

In 2008 Dagan was named Women of the year in education by Yad Vashem for her contribution to Holocaust teaching for children. She was also named an Outstanding Member of the City of Holon.

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I´m going to talk about how I experience remembrance in Germany.

In general we learn about the National Socialism and the Shoah in history class. To talk about this time in school is an important part of remembering and understanding what happened. In addition many children and young adults read books about this time.

In German cities you can often see little stones on the street in front of houses. They are called “Stumbling stones” and make us remember the Shoah in every-day life. They remind us of Jews, that lived in these houses and were murdered during the Nazi Regime in Germany. On these stones their names and birthdates, the date of deportation and their date of death are engraved.

Sometimes, especially on memorial days people lay down flowers or light candles next to stumbling stones.

Since 25 years, the 27th January is the Day of Remembrance for the Shoah. It’s the date when Auschwitz concentration camp was liberated. On this day there are memorial ceremonies in the German Parliament.  Contemporary witnesses and representatives of Jewish Culture are invited to speak. Unfortunately, many people don ́t pay attention to that day. In my opinion we should take this memorial day as an occasion to remember and talk about the Shoah at school.

At home my family and I sometimes talk about the Shoah. We also talk about antisemitism, that grows again. It is very scary and terrible that there are still fascist people in Germany.

That’s why it is so important to keep up remembrance and to continue raising awareness so that also future generations will never forget about what happened.

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Questions for Bettina, team leader from Berlin

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Questions for Bettina, team leader from Berlin

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Performative (Hi)Storytelling Workshop

The workshop for performative storytelling started an Instagram account. They posted daily stories about Bat Sheva Dagan, Auschwitz or the Holocaust in general. They created videos about their own life and interests and in the end they´re going to connect them to one video.

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We are talking about the topic of remembrance in Israel and Germany. Together we watched the interview Bat Sheva Dagan gave especially for our exchange.

Afterwards we split up in workshop-groups in which we are now working on various projects processing and remembering the Shoah.

There are five workshop-groups we are going to introduce today: this Journalistic Padlet Workshop, a Performative Storytelling Workshop, a Comic Workshop and the Podcast-Workshop.

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(filmization of one of Bat-Sheva Dagans Books)

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JFI Presents: Chika, the Dog in the Ghetto

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In May's Online Short, filmmaker Sandra Schießl recreates experiences of the Jewish ghettos through imaginative animation and design. Chika the dog and the five-year old Mikasch live in a Jewish ghetto in an unnamed Polish city. The little dog helps Mikasch to develop as a child despite the persecution of the Jews by the Germans.

Read an interview with Sandra Schießl on JFI's blog: The Cinegogue: www.medium.com/@sfjewishfilm

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While everyone is probably dreaming of traveling right now, our minds fly to Israel and Germany. The German-Israeli youth exchange of the city of Holon and the Mitte district will take place anyway! A little different, actually quite different; we don't pack heavy suitcases, but we are looking for the best place in the apartment where the wifi works and join the Zoom_Meeting with 20 youngsters, two teamers, and a curious english teacher.

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