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You will use your knowledge of the agrarian societies to figure out how agriculture led to the first agrarian civilizations. It’s important for you to begin to formulate explanations for why cities and states emerged not long after agriculture was adopted in certain areas.

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You will use your knowledge of the agrarian societies to figure out how agriculture led to the first agrarian civilizations. It’s important for you to begin to formulate explanations for why cities and states emerged not long after agriculture was adopted in certain areas.

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1. 0:55 Why does David Christian claim that increasing complexity depends on agriculture?

2. 2:00 What was the “secondary products revolution” and why was it so important to the spread of agriculture and the growth of cities and states?

3. 3:34 What is an agrarian civilization?

4. 3:50 Where did the first agrarian societies develop?

5. 5:02 Why does David Christian say that "surpluses" are the key to cities?

6. 5:30 Why does Christian argue that cities needed a "coordinating mechanism"?

7. 7:22 What are the characteristics that all agrarian civilizations share?

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1) cooperative
2) helpful
3) racist
4) knowledgeable
5) hardworking
6) sharing
7) rude
8) forceful
9) sweet
10) inquirer
11) non-vegetarian

12) strict

13)empire’s

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1. Forming up
2. Development
3. Creation
4. Community
5. Humans
6. Communication
7. Cosmic
8. Societies
9. Divisions
10. Evolution
11. Resources
12. Animals
13. Food
14. Climate change
15. Privilege

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Agrarian society
characteristics:

1. Ancient

2. divided

3. Communities

4. Society

5. Wealth

6. Powerful

7. Social rankings

8. Civilisation

9. Forced

10. Change

11. Organised

12. Responsible

13. Development

14. Different

15. Cultures

16. Communication

17. Races

18. Racist

19. Close minded

20. Hardworking

21. Determination

22. Cooperative

23. Strict

24. Inquirers

25. Passionate

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- Farming Societies
-Usage of Animals
-Food storage
-Believes in gods, same religion
-Strict and Central rules
-Ruled by Kings, Pharaohs
-No freedom of choosing jobs, specialised jobs
-Ranking based wealth
-Increased trade
-More developed system of recording information
-Increased armies
-Public monumental architecture -Temples, Pyramid-
-Inequality between men and women. (GENDER INEQUALITY)
-Started forming these societies in 3300 BCE

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Year
Population
Power and Wealth
Place where it started
Religion
Jobs
Way of living
Natural resources
Rules
Animals
Weather
Artifacts
Trade
Tradition
Social Rank

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Demanding
Religious
Hardworking
Strong
Communities
Leaders
Unique
Simple
Adaptors[ They adapted to any situation]
Ancient
Strict
Climate changes
Inequality

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About 5000 years ago,cities, states and societies started to form.

Agrarian societies depended on farming around them since it kept the society properly maintained.

They started in mainly 4 areas 1)Mesopotamia/Iraq,2) Egypt and Nubia, 3)The Indus Valley 4) The Andes Mountains of South America.

They have a compact population and are ruled by elites. Elite took up no more than 10% of the population and they had a lot of power in their societies.

The earliest societies developed in river valleys as people were familiar with the surroundings, and the land was fertile as well.

After a period of time, they learned how to grow more crops like tomatoes, corn and lentils.

Some of these socities and animals like dogs and turkeys, they used llamas and alpacas as transport. They used domesticated cotton for clothes.

The dryness in the mountains a lead them below to the river valleys, during floods the soil becomes more fertile so that they can farm.

It is predicted that the elites got the power and their power grew, this is what formed politics.

The climates conditions were changing drastically in that era. The temperature started to warm up and gradually became stable. This temperature was perfect for farming.

It know that only The Indus Valley society did not engage in warfare.

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1) they started central rules
2) 5000 years ago city and states began forming around the world
3) They could communicate with god
4) The first agrarian societies began about in 3300 BCE they started in 4 areas
5) About 8000 BC Peru was very hot
6) After people learned how to grow plants and tame animals, they gradually learned how to utilise animals for a variety of things other than food.
7) Africa and Eurasia were connected
8) The climate was changing really fast
9)They made temples and pyramids
10) The earth was warming up since the height of the last ice age, which was about 20,000 BCE
11) They developed state religion based on god
12) The earliest agrarian states always had at least 2 things in common. A high ranking group in control, and the forceful collections of taxes and tribute.
13) They devolved armies and war fairs
14)Some of the common characteristics were:
Storage of surplus food
Central rule (Such as King, Pharoah or emperor

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- Creative
- Developement
- Communicate
- Civisile
- Society
- Cultural
- Work a lot
- Exposed to sunlight
- Smart
- Didn’t care for some and more for other
- Tried to make good/better decissions
- Colaborative
- Adaptive

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1 - complexity will increase as populations increase , but to support large populations u need to get more resources . Like food , because giving enough food in nessasory for people to survive . Farming helps get enough food for everyone .

2 - people figured new ways to use animals like not only using them for meat,fat or skin but they started to use them for milk & fur too transportation as well , to carry products .

3 - agararian civilisation is places / societies that started with farming & it became there main job. It also started to grow as the population increased .

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1.complexity increases when population increases but to  support a lot of population you need more food resources
And that’s when farmers came in to play.

2.

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1. 0:55 Why does David Christian claim that increasing complexity depends on agriculture?

Because if there are many people there has to be a lot of food

2. 2:00 What was the “secondary products revolution” and why was it so important to the spread of agriculture and the growth of cities and states?

Use of domestic animals as it helped in growing more crops

3. 3:34 What is an agrarian civilization?

It is a civilisation which is depended on farming and in helps.

4. 3:50 Where did the first agrarian societies develop?

They developed in the Nile valley 5000 years ago.

5. 5:02 Why does David Christian say that "surpluses" are the key to cities?

As if it rains and you can’t grow crops then all your surpluses food comes in handy

6. 5:30 Why does Christian argue that cities needed a "coordinating mechanism"?

As if people who do poetry need to sell in the market and army needs government to hire them.

7. 7:22 What are the characteristics that all agrarian civilizations share?

They use farming as there main job

All had big cities and they all have monuments and religious temples

They had rulers, hierarchy and taxes.

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1. As population increases complexity increases and to handle or manage the complexity and population we need resources. Mainly food resources because people need food to live.

2. People learned to use secondary product of animals. Instead of gaining meat and skin from the animals which are accuired when we kill them, we gain secondary products from them while they are alive like milk, fur, and power. We used animals to plough the ground which was an energy revolution because a human has a power of around 75W but a horse or an ox has a power of around 10 times.

3. As farming became more and more advanced it allowed bigger and more complex societies and those societies are called Agrarian societies.

4. Agrarian societies first formed in Mesopotamia and The Nile Valley.

5. Since farmers produced surpluses of crops, the agrarian societies didn’t really need all of the people to be farmers. Then came specialists were now made. These famers could plant crops enough for more people.

6. Potters need markets to sell their good, fisherman need fish markets to sell fish. Everything needs to coordinate with eavh other.

7. Architecture was similar for example a temple. There were heirarchies and rulers, tak, armies, and peasants.

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1. The complexity kept increasing because the population kept increasing, because when there are more people you need more resources. And as you know, food is a very important resource needed in everybody’s life.

2. What they were doing was, instead of just using animals for meat and fat they found out other things they could do while the animal was still alive. Such as the animals fur, milk, a way for transportation etc.

3. An agrarian civilisation is societies that started with farming, agriculture and it kept becoming more complex as the population kept increasing.

4. The first agrarian civilisation started in Mesopotamia.

5.  Because if example in the rainy season, if it rains too much then the farmers wouldn't be able to product crops. Thats when the surplus food would come in use and be used to feed people.

6. The potters need to sell their things so they could earn.

7. Few of the main characteristics agrarian societies share are, inequality, social rankings, civilisations etc.

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1: Why does David Cristian claim that increasing complexity depends on polulation?

Because if the population increase, then there should be enough resources, especially food. That’s where farming becomes very important. If you have a land that has fertile soil, you will be able to grow a wider amount of crops.

2: What was the secondary products revolution? And why was it so important to the spread of agriculture and the growth of cities and states?
= At that time, people used animals for the skin or flesh, but later on, they discovered and starting using animals for various other needs. Like milk, fur, energy etc. The spread of agriculture was very important because the population was increasing and they needed enough resources.

3: What is an agrarian society?
Agrarian society is any community whose economy is based or farming, agriculture and producing enough food for everyone.

4: Where was the first Agrarian society built?
In Mesopotamia.

5:  Why does David Christian say that surplus food is the key to cities and states?
So that is the wether is bad then all the surplus food will come in use.

6:  Why does Cristian argue that cities need coordinating mechanism.
The potters need to sell their goods, fisherman need to sell fishes in order to have their products bought by people and also to earn.

7: What are the characteristics that all agrarian civilisation share?
Big cities and monuments, temples etc.

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You will use your knowledge of the agrarian societies to figure out how agriculture led to the first agrarian civilizations. It’s important for you to begin to formulate explanations for why cities and states emerged not long after agriculture was adopted in certain areas.

1. 0:55 Why does David Christian claim that increasing complexity depends on agriculture?
- Complexity increases as population increases and they need more resources.
2. 2:00 What was the “secondary products revolution” and why was it so important to the spread of agriculture and the growth of cities and states?
Some societies started using domestic animals for their fur, ones for transport or plowing. This is important as they need to store or keep the animals with them as well, so the land will fall short and increase.

3. 3:34 What is an agrarian civilization?
Agrarian societies depend on farming and eventually become more complex.

4. 3:50 Where did the first agrarian societies develop?
The first agrarian society was formed in Mesopotamia and Nile Valley.

5. 5:02 Why does David Christian say that "surpluses" are the key to cities?
He says that because every society or city need resources, when you need resources you need extra resources. They need to store those resources.

6. 5:30 Why does Christian argue that cities needed a "coordinating mechanism"?
They need a coordinating mechanism because eg, a potter must have a place where he sells his pots or the people who makes things need it as well. They can have all of it in one place like a market.
7. 7:22 What are the characteristics that all agrarian civilizations share?
All of them have languages. They live in valleys. They are complex. They started writing and eventually turned into literatures.

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1. To support large population we need more resources especially food. That why farming is important.

2. People used animals for farming and not only for their meal. They were used when they were alive like for their milk, fur, draft power and for plowing.

3.  It is a civilisation where farming is the main job and it became more complex as population and food production increased.

4. The first agrarian society developed in Mesopotamia and along the Nile valley.

5. It is not important for everyone to be a farmer. Some more specialists like Potters, merchants, priests and soldiers were also there.

6.  Individuals started to depend on each other. That’s why they needed a coordination mechanism. For eg- Potters needed markets to sell their goods.

7. Architecture, rules, hierarchies, tax systems, armies, writing.

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1. 0:55 Why does David Christian claim that increasing complexity depends on agriculture?

Complexity does depend on agriculture since people have to find new ways to increase their resources since it starts to deplete.

2. 2:00 What was the “secondary products revolution” and why was it so important to the spread of agriculture and the growth of cities and states?

It was important to the spread and growth of cities and states since they had to hold a large amount of population in their city. The reason that secondary products revolution was invented was because people had to figure out multiple different solutions to different problems. For example, instead of just using animals for meat, they could use the animals for transporting goods to another part of the city.

3. 3:34 What is an agrarian civilization?

Because farming technologies started to advance and grow, it form civilisations known as agrarian societies.

4. 3:50 Where did the first agrarian societies develop?

The first few agrarian societies were located in Mesopotamia/Iraq and the Nile valley.

5. 5:02 Why does David Christian say that "surpluses" are the key to cities?

Surplus is key to cities since at a point when specified started to become more complex, specialised jobs came in play and not so many farmers were then needed.

6. 5:30 Why does Christian argue that cities needed a "coordinating mechanism"?

Soon enough, people started to depend on each other and started to communicate effectively. Because of the agrarian societies expanding, different jobs were made and then people had to communicate more since there were many more responsibilities to keep the society in good condition and well maintained.

7. 7:22 What are the characteristics that all agrarian civilizations share?

All agrarian societies shared similar jobs, similar structures and some of them even grew similar crops.

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0:55= Complexity increases as the population of each territory will increase. And as there are increased amount of citizens that will be living there, they need to farm more for their surplus food. That's why how the increasing complexity is dependent on agriculture.

2:00= The "Secondary Products Revolution" was the more productive ways of using their animals. This is improtant because then the process of planting/cultivating crops can be happening faster than just using hands. we can also use those animals to carry the belongings for the trading too.

3:34= An Agrarian civilization is the state when the societies became more populous and more complex societies.

3:50= The first agrarian societies have developed first in Mesopotamia, in the lands south of the Fertile Crescent, and at the same time, it happened along the Nile Valley.

5:02= The result to be having surpluses food was not all citizens had to become farmers, and could be other jobs.

5:30= Because individuals got so dependent on one another, they needed some sort of coordinating mechanism. Eventually, everyone needed someone to organize all of these complex relationships.

7:22= The agrarian societies share few common characteristics like:
-Surpluses food
-Farming as one very important job
-Monumental architecture
-Rulers/Empires
-Strict and central rules
-Increased trade
-Ranking based on wealth
-Gender inequality

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It can be argued that social systems create inequality. This is clearly evident in the video 6:07. David christian says the the "Elite group was mostly boys'' This shows inequality for women. Women were not supposed to handle higher things or to be at a higher status/position. All they were supposed to do is to work for the family/housewife. These social systems have created inequality for women. There structure/system was such which only was in favor of boys. It does not involve of a women being independent and working. This proves that social system created gender inequality.

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1. I think that David claimed that increased complexity depends on agriculture because, if agriculture can handle 30 people  and people will be healthy people will reproduce and more people will start coming to the the civilisation for crops and resources to settle there, the number from 30 might increase to 3000 increasing the villages later becoming into cities, states and empires.

2.  Secondary products revolution is important because, that is when people started more productive ways of agriculture and farming.

1. An agrarian society or also known as agricultural society, is a society whose economy is based on producing and maintaining crops and farmland.

2. The first agrarian societies developed on river valleys like; Mesopotamia, Indus Valley & Egypt/Nubia. In 3200 BCE.

3. He says that because you always need backup food or resources. For example; wheat can only be grown in winter but what about the other seasons. Therefore, if you store surplus food you might need it for another day.

4. He argues that because all the jobs are interconnected.

5. The main characteristic is that they our agriculture dependent societies.

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It can be argued that social systems create inequality in the society. This can be proven when the video mentions; “So now societies develop a whole hierarchy. At the top there’s a small minority of people who are very rich and powerful who extract resources from the vast majority of peasants who make up 90% of the population.”. What this shows is that based on the word rank, it can be understood that there will be low ranks and high ranks. As you can see the high ranks will be treated with more respect because of the amount of wealth they have, while low ranks will be treated unfairly because they are poor and don’t have any money since they are not paid for their job. For example, there are emperors and slaves. While the emperors were treated with a lot of respect, while slaves were the lowest rank due to having no wealth at all. In conclusion, it can be seen that social systems can cause inequality between societies.

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Social systems created inequality because people were divided and were taught and adapted to treat people differently. We can clearly see this on the timestamp 6:35 where he says, “As power brokers became more powerful and had more resources, eventually they began to hire paid enforcers who could impose their will by force.”After looking at the evidence, we can see that since people were hired, they had to listen to people, known as bosses. Their bosses controlled the workers. As they controlled the workers, they are technically called slaves. As we know slaves are called a low class, that is the reason they are treated differently. The people who hire workers also work for someone. Like this there are many people who work for other people. This creates layers of inequality or layers of different social statuses. People would not wanna talk to the people who are lower class. This means that the lower class people don’t get any opportunities in their societies. To conclude, social systems create different types of inequality.

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How did social systems create inequality?

Social systems created gender inequality as the elite group was mostly boys and not girls. 6 mins and 7 seconds in the video was when David Christian mentioned this phrase “the elite group members were mostly boys”. Women were considered as houseworkers/maids and men were considered as buissness workers to ear money. This happened because girls were considered weak hence social systems created gender inequality

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1)To make sure the population increased so they needed food or resources they needed complexity

2)for most population they needed room so it is important to expand and grow cities

3)happened in Mesopotamia then villages and cites produced huge crops and population

4)this started in Mesopotamia and villages were formed

5)because jobs were forming

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1. 1. Complexity continued to increase as the population continued to grow. Because more people means more resources. More populations add complexity, but  you need more food resources to feed a large population.

1. Instead of killing animals to get meat and hides, they get secondary products such as milk, pelts, and strength while the animals are alive. Which made more benifits.

2. The secondary product revolution was invented because people needed to find different solutions to different problems.

3. It initially started in Mesopotamia/ Iraq and the nile valley.

4. People have learned to use secondary products from animals. The spread of agriculture was very important as the population was growing and needed sufficient resources

5. People have learned to use secondary products from animals. The spread of agriculture was very important as the population was growing and needed sufficient resources.

6. They all possessed large cities, as well as monuments and temples.

7. They had hierarchy, rulers, and taxes.

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The social systems created inequality by making some unfair rules and regulations like before women weren’t allowed to study and not allowed to vote in the old times

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1. 0:55- Because more individuals require more resources when there are more of them, complexity grew as the population rose. And as you are aware, food is a crucial resource that everyone needs in their daily lives.

2. 2:00- Instead of only exploiting animals for their flesh and fat, they were learning additional things they could do with them while they were still living. such as the milk, hair, and transportation methods of various animals.

3. 3:34- Agrarian civilizations are cultures that began with agriculture and farming and grew more complex as the population did.

4. 3:50- Mesopotamia is where the first agricultural civilisation emerged.

5. 5:02- Because, for instance, during the rainy season, too much rain would prevent farmers from producing crops. At that point, the extra food would be used and used to feed others.

6. 5:30- To make money, the potters must sell their creations.

7. 7:22- Inequality, social standing, civilisations, etc. are only a few of the key traits that agricultural societies share.

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1. As population increase we will need more resources. Which mainly will be food

2. They found out the solutions to eat food other than meat. Like for example to cover themselves they used animal fur, to eat they took out milk out of animals.

3. The agrarian society started farming which became more complex as the society started to grow.

4.  Agrarian society began in Mesopotamia, Nile river

5. In a bad season for when the couldn’t grow any crops they used to use their surplus food that they stored over the months

6.  In order to earn money, the potters sold their stuff for them to earn money

7. All of them had king of similar jobs and some of them has similar crops too.

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1. Increasing complexity depends on agriculture because different people need different food and things become more and more complicated. Babies don’t have teeth so they candit chew while adults do, while at the same time people need new flavour because giving the same thing uncooked again and again and again isn’t always good for you. Even back then when they didn’t have that much knowledge of this.

2. It was important to spread that awareness because people could not only have healthier food but it wouldn’t be as much work, going hunting would not have to be done as much. You could also use the animals for other things like milk or wool or carrying heavy things around. People needed to know this for their own benefit.

3. An agrarian civilisation is when most people back then would do farming and agriculture as their main profession. How people got food then.

4. The first agrarian civilisation was in Mesopotamia, the land south Fertile Crescent.

5. Surpluses are the keys to a city because a city is where everyone has a different job, they specialise in different things. Soon farming began to to become easier and they did not need many people to do it, so peopled started to do other things.

6. Cities need a coordinating mechanism because if not then not much will be possible. Al, these people, they started to rely on each other, they all needed things from one another, they needed someone to organise everything, they all connect.

7. All agrarian civils were different. Different languages religions, people. But some large things they had in common was that they were big cities. They all had something big part of them, pyramids,temples, palaces. Thayer all had people in charge, rulers, hierarchies.

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Because the elite group was mostly boys and not girls, social systems created gender inequality. The statement "the elite group members were mostly boys" was mentioned by David Christian 6 minutes and 7 seconds into the video. Women were considered housekeepers/maids, while men were considered business workers. As girls were considered weak, social systems created gender inequality. Thus we see that there was a lot of gender inequality and it is still there it few countries.

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Imagine that you are part of the ruling class of an agrarian civilization. You have a problem: Your civilization is running low on resources! 

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Imagine that you are part of the ruling class of an agrarian civilization. You have a problem: Your civilization is running low on resources! 

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You have two options: raise taxes on your citizens or conquer a neighboring civilization.

Choose one of these options (tax or invade) and then answer the following questions on the padlet.

Be prepared to share your answers with the class when you’re finished.

1. What would it take to execute your plan? Come up with a general plan of action.

2. What are the benefits to your method of obtaining more resources?

3. What are the negative costs (economic, political, cultural, geographical) and dangers of your plan?

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We have chosen increase of tax

1. Our action plan is to increase the tax since that is a more long term solution to the situation (less of resources), and if peoples income keeps increasing the percentage of tax increases. For it to be equal, everybody has to pay tax, even the king. Once everybody pays the taxes, the government will get more money and will be able to provide peoples basic needs (food, water, shelter) and health care, etc.

2. The benefits of having more resources is more people will want to live in the place because of the quality of the place.

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1. Meet up with an alliance to help us conquer

2. If they succeed to help then we start threatening the other empire.

3. Then if we succeed to conquer that empire then we shall give a part of the empire to our alliance as well.

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Amelia, Jennie, Sharvi, Prisha and Israt 

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Amelia, Jennie, Sharvi, Prisha and Israt 

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The method we have chose: Conquer other empires (Joining hands with others)  👑 🔪🤝🏻

Why?: The reason we have decided to Conquer other empires is because the reason why there is lack on resources could be because of the land fill and the population in our empire. If we hold hands with another powerful empire, the percentage of conquering the land will rise just than conquering on our own.

How will we conquer?: We can ask the other neighbouring countries who are strong and powerful to help defeat the empire. Obviously, the empire we ask for help will expect something for return from our empire. Then, we will tell that empire that once we will successfully conquer the other empire, we can equally divide the land we earned according to the contribution for the war.