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The idea that beauty would bring you closer to God is a very Platonic one (as in Plato not as in non-romantic). It actually gets discussed quite a lot in his Symposium, and also Phaedrus. The idea was that everything in nature had a 'form', or goal it was aspiring to. This form was one we all had once before, and still exists 'above the Heavens'. We love beautiful things because they remind us of that world above, and so bring us closer to it.

-dante

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I'm really interested in Neo-platonism because of how it endeavoured to merge to seemingly contradictory ideas. I guess this was seen in depictions of the human form in that the anatomical and beautiful met the religious and spiritual (classical world vz religious values)

-dante

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https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-creation-of-adam-by-michelangelo l  i found this link useful for creation of adam

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Rebecca what about the creation of adam (your other artwork)

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Rebecca what about the creation of adam (your other artwork)

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How do you think classical values impacted on the way the human form was presented here?

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I feel that the Nazi's were fearful of the degenerate art because it challenged the Nazi's veiws and perspectives which showed the public differrent ideas which leads to a variety of opinions that could be formed - scared the Nazi's because it may lead to the public dissagreeing with the Nazi's veiws.

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It's interesting to think about how Kandinsky's personal experience of synesthesia impacted on his aesthetic values. Art becomes like music -lyrical, rhythmic.

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I found this really interesting video on Wassily Kandinsky's work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xDnxkzQtdI

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Everyone in the School of Athens looks very muscular, and athletic

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The idea of the ignudi is important here. As is beliefs about beauty. (the idea that looking at beautiful things would bring you closer to God.

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Agree with this, the Nazis wanted to control art and everyone that didn’t confine to the “painting norms” were punished by being ridiculed in the exhibition. It caused many artists to flee Germany, lose their careers and even commit suicide.

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Do you think that the Nazi party was is a way  fearful of the 'Degenerate' Art? I was reading that they really did see it as a symptom of mental/physical sickness and saw it as a threat to society.

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the renaissance idealistic form caused artists to imagine the perfect body. so this they valued the perfect form the most.

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Hitler valued god and the 'Aryan' race. He wanted the human form to be depicted perfectly, as anything else was a bastardisation of gods creation, and not accurate to the Aryan form he was obsessed with. It was 'heathen,' therefore, to do as the modernists did and stylize the human form. However, the modernists valued freedom of expression.

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how the values impact on the human form and aspect of human life it shows in the renaissance it shows the world spilt up in groups of knowleage ,everyday actvies

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Kathe Kollwitz is an example of art which is very political in its' purpose. Her aim was always to critique or to protest e.g. her war series, or Hunger

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The personal experience and life threating impact of the Nazi political party created an atmosphere of fear and power in Modern artwork. The values that the Nazis held conflicted with the emotional and expressive nature portrayed in modern art.

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How did personal or political values impact on art / the portrayal of nature in art?

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How did personal or political values impact on art / the portrayal of nature in art?

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appearing one way but saying something else

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appearing one way but saying something else

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A good example of this was the adoration of the magi. As Andrew Graham Dixon told us, this appear to be a show of piety but in reality it was a way to glorify themselves

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Often an art work would be saying more than one thing in terms of values. e.g. "Renaissance portraiture often had a two-fold function ... On one hand the ruling classes and prosperous merchants had their portraits painted to display their fame and fortune; on the other, they commissioned donor portraits as an endorsement of their religious faith."

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What are your thoughts about how values impacted on the portrayal human form? Or how personal or political values impacted on art/ the portrayal of nature in art?

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https://www.artyfactory.com/art_appreciation/art_movements/italian-renaissance/italian-renaissance-art-humanism.html

https://www.theartstory.org/definition/renaissance-humanism/

https://www.thoughtco.com/renaissance-humanism-p2-1221781

https://www.britannica.com/topic/humanism/Humanism-and-the-visual-arts

https://iep.utm.edu/neoplato/#:~:text=Neo%2Dplatonism%20(or%20Neoplatonism),mystical'%20or%20religious%20in%20nature%2C
https://www.moma.org/s/ge/curated_ge/
https://rm.coe.int/naturopa-2000-no-93-the-representation-of-nature-in-art-/168069cdfb
https://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3513&context=open_access_etds
https://www.artyfactory.com/art_appreciation/art_movements/expressionism.htm
https://www.parkwestgallery.com/what-is-expressionism-art/
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/glossary-terms/expressionism
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/art-1010/german-art-between-the-wars/xdc974a79:nazi-fascist-visual-culture/a/art-in-nazi-germany
https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/video/art-propaganda-nazi-degenerate-art-exhibit

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How did values impact on the portrayal of the human form?

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How did values impact on the portrayal of the human form?