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We can light the fire again…-- I cut the pig’s throat

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We can light the fire again…-- I cut the pig’s throat

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We can light the fire again…-- I cut the pig’s throat

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" They might have seem us. We might have gone" This was to bitter for Piggy, who forgot his timidity in the agony of his loss". (70)
"Kill the pig. Cut her throat. Spill her blood" He only thinks about kill the pig and then eat it.

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"he began to dance and his laughter became a bloodthirsty snarling" (75) Jack is becoming more aggressive and it seems that he's becoming an animal himself.

"so we need a shelter as a sort of-"
"Home."
"that's right"
Ralph wants to get the children to feel more at home first so they can feel more relaxed, and do their job

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Ralph -"They let the bloody fire go out " (68) Ralph had trust on others to do their jobs but they didn't
Jack-"Look ! We 've killed a pig" (69) He only cares about hunting. He doesn't listen to his leader but instead he does what he wants and creates his own independent group

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"There was the brilliant world of hunting, tactics, fierce exhilaration, skill; and there was the world of longing and baffled commonsense" (71).

"Ralph flung back his hair. One arm pointed at the empty horizon. His voice was loud and savage, and struck them into silence. 'There was a ship'" (70).

Jack and Ralph have two opposing views on their survival techniques. Jack is absorbed in his hunting and he is thinking about long term survival while Ralph is obsessed with getting rescued. He is angry with Jack that he decided to hunt when he said he would keep the fire going to signal ships. Finally when a ship came, Jack left the fire.

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Ralph-"They might have seen us. We might have gone home."(70)
It was jakes responsibility to keep the fire going. But he was off hunting.

Jack- "I cut the pigs throat" Said Jack, proudly, and yet twitched as he said it"(68)
Jack sounded like he was saying that he was better then Ralph because he got meat for the group of boys.

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"Jack went very red as he hacked and pulled at the pig. 'The job was too much. We needed everyone.'"(Page 70) When Jack is blamed for letting the fire go out and he knows that it his fault. He still tries to find someone or something else to blame. It is only human nature to want to blame someone else for the failure of the whole group.

"'I was chief, and you were going to do what I said. You talk. But you can't even build huts - then you go off hunting and let out the fire-'"(Page 70) Ralph is getting angry with Jack because he is the leader of the group and he thinks that the rest of the group should do what the leader tell them to do. He thinks that just because he is in a position of power he can just push people around without any thought about them.

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Jack-
“For hunting. Like in the war. You know—dazzle paint. Like things trying to look like something else—”
Jack is obsessed with hunting and all he wants is to kill a pig. the face paint represents him becoming a different creature and blending into nature.

Ralph-
Ralph ran stumbling along the rocks, saved himself on the edge of the pink cliff, and screamed at the ship.
“Come back! Come back!”
Ralph gets very and and upset when the ship passes by and the fire isn't lit. all ralph wants to do is get off this island and that just ruined maybe his only chance.

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" 'We got a lot of sticks. We could have a sundial each. Then we should know what time it was.'
'A fat lot of good that would be.'
'You said you wanted things done. So as we could be rescued.'
'Oh, shut up.' " (54)

"I was chief, and you were going to do what I said. You talk. But you can't even build huts--then you go off hunting and let out the fire--" (59)
Both quotes explain that Ralph is very frustrated with Jack. During he chapter he shows violence here and there. I think it is because of his anger with Jack and how things aren't going very well on the island still.

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"He began to dance and his laughter became a bloodthirsty snarling" (63)
"I've been thinking,about a clock. We could make a sundial."(63)
Jack and Ralph are going into two different directions

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" 'I was chief, and you were going to do what I said. You talk. But you can't even build huts - then you go off hunting and let out the fire' " (70).

Ralph is representing human government because he is describing how he is the chief and leader of the group and how he expects everyone to do what he tells them to do.

"He took a step, and able at last to hit someone, stuck his fist into Piggy's stomach" (71)

Jack represents human nature because it is common for humans to result to violence when frustrated. Jack's reaction symbolizes his character as well as a form of danger to the other kids.

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Ralph turned to the others, "this belongs to us(69)" This quote shows that Ralph is being a more aggressive leader.

"He took a step, and able at last to hit someone, stuck his fist into Piggy's stomach" (71) This Shows that Jack is also being more aggressive because he is frustrated
at piggy.

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"Jack,  his face smeared with clays, reached the top first and hailed Ralph excitedly, with lifted spear."(69)

"Yet Ralph's throat refused to pass one. He resented, as an addition to Jack's mis behavior, this verbal trick. The fire was dead, the ship was gone. Could they not see? Anger instead of decency passed his throat."(72)

They are both human nature. Jack is competition. He is always trying to 1up Ralph and at this point in the book he feels that he had done that by killing the pig. Ralph is filled with anger he thinks they should have kept the signal fire going, but it had been stopped.

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"'The job was too much. We needed everyone.' Ralph turned. 'You could have had everyone when the shelter were finished. But you had to hunt.'' (70)
Jack is too focused on hunting that he doesn't do anything for the good of the people even when they needed him most. When the rest of the group was making shelters Jack was out hunting and being selfish by not listening and not helping out.

"Ralph spoke. 'you let the fire go out.' Jack checked, vaguely irritated bu this irrelevance bit too happy to let it worry him."(68)

When Jack let the fire go out they lost all hope of rescue. The fire represents rescue for the group and when the fire goes out the groups loses hope for rescue.

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"And for the fear- you'll have  to put up with that like the rest of us."

"Yet Ralph’s throat refused to pass one. He resented, as an addition to Jack’s misbehavior, this verbal trick. The fire was dead, the ship was gone. Could they not see? Anger instead of decency passed his throat." (102)

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"Yet Ralph’s throat refused to pass one. He resented, as an addition to Jack’s misbehavior, this verbal trick. The fire was dead, the ship was gone. Could they not see? Anger instead of decency passed his throat." (102) Ralph is more worried about everything going on, on the island, and doesn't feel like he needs to worry about Jack's feelings. In this way, it shows human government, putting other things ahead and worrying about the big picture, rather than individuals.
"Maurice flashed a smile at Ralph who slid easily into the water. Of all the boys, he was the most at home there; but today, irked by the mention of rescue, the useless, footling mention of rescue, even the green depths of water and the shattered, golden sun held no balm. Instead of remaining and playing, he swam with steady strokes under Simon and crawled out of the other side of the pool to lie there, sleek and streaming like a seal. Piggy, always clumsy, stood up and came to stand by him, so that Ralph rolled on his stomach and pretended not to see. The mirages had died away and gloomily he ran his eye along the taut blue line of the horizon."(91)

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" 'You let the fire go out' Jack checked, vaguely irritated by the irrelevance but too happy to let it worry him. 'We can light the fire again. You should have been with us, Ralph. We had a smashing time---'
'We cut the pigs throat.' " (69)

This shows that Jack is the kind of leader that only cares about his social impact and his ability to preform.

" 'You and your blood, Jack Merridew!'  You and your hunting!  We might have gone home.'" (70)

This shows that Jack doesn't have the responsibility to handle multiple things. It also shows that Ralph is becoming a leader where he makes decisions on his own without informing everyone.

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"And for the fear- you'll have  to put up with that like the rest of us."

"Ralph looked at jack openmouthed, but jack  took no notice."  "The thing is- fear cant hurt you anymore than a dream.there arnt any beastrs to be afaid of on this island."(91)

these quotes show how ralph tries to maintain a strong representing  human goverment but has trouble dealing with "fear" i think jacks character represents fear. When your scared you try to hide it by acting imulsive, fearless and crazy. i think jack acts like this because he is scared of not just being staranded on an island but being included and feeling wanted. he then interfears with ralphs plans by acting crazy and running around un contrably like all the animals with them and i think ralph is sencing it aswell along with the fact that he is trying to tell every one as a good leader to not let fear ruin your acomplishments.

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Ralph - "There was a ship, they might have seen us, we might have gone home!" (70) Wants the group to be saved and go home.
Jack - "Kill the pig cut her throat, bash her in." (75) Want to hunt and kill with the group.

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Ralph turned to the others, "this belongs to us" (58) this shows Ralph is being dominant and taking control while showing a little aggression. "I cut the pigs throat," (70) said Jack. This shows that he is a "man" being strong and taking control.

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"I cut the pigs throat" said Jack, proudly, and yet twitched as he said it. (69)
Ralph- "You could have had everyone when the shelters were finished. But you had to hunt-" (71)

These two quotes from the chapter prove the difference between the two boys. Ralph is more focused on the bigger picture of survival and rescue, where as Jack is all about hunting and instant gratification.

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Jack capered toward Bill, and the mask was a thing on its own, behind which Jack hid, liberated from shame and self-consciousness. This is a symbol of him becoming his true self to the rest of the people.

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I think the paint is a symbol of liberating Jack into savagery. When Jack paints his face, it isn't totally to look camouflaged. He does it because he thinks it looks cool. It doesn't just change the way he looks, I think it changes who he is. His character changes in this chapter to more savage and aggressive. "The mask was a thing of it's own, behind which Jack hid, liberated from shame and self consciousness." (63)

"I was chief, and you were going to do what i said. You talk. But you can't even build huts-then you go off hunting and let out the fire-"(70) Ralph is upset because as a chief, he was supposed to control things and he needed the boys to do their jobs

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Jack-" I cut the pig's throat." said jack proudly. (page 70)
Ralph- "You could have had everyone when the shelters were finished. But you had to hunt." (page 71)
These quotes show how Jack and Ralph had two completely different agendas and opinions on what was the most important task at the time.

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"I cut the pigs throat," said Jack, proudly, and yet twitched as he said it. (69)
-  Jack seems to be really into hunting. He is more worried about hunting than actually getting food and being rescued because all he want to do is hunt.

"Come back! Come back!" (67)
- Against what Jack thinks, Ralph is more worried about being rescued and worried about what is going to happen in the future. Jack is all about hunting but Ralph is concerned for bigger things.

When the boys see the smoke it is like the are being connected with society in a way. On the island it is like a paradise but in reality, they miss society and their real lives. This would be allegory.

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Jack - "I painted my face- I stole up. Now you eat- all of you- and I-" (74)
Jack painted his face, and this could symbolize him hiding his true self. He becomes animalistic trying to kill the pig. It's his human instinct to hunt for food.
Ralph- "They might have seen us. We might have gone home." (70)
Ralph is worried about being rescued. He's the one in charge, and it makes him angry that Jack didn't listen to him. He blames Jack for not being rescued.

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"'We hit the pig-' '-I fell on top-' 'I cut the pig's throat,' said Jack, proudly, and yet twitched as he said it.'"(69) Jack wants to get meat and is more worried about his diet than being saved. His instinct is to get food to survive. Jack also puts face paint on, not for hunting but to make himself look cooler than the other hunters.

"'I was chief, and you were going to do what I said. You talk. But you can't even build huts- then you go off hunting and let out the fire-'" (70-71) Ralph is more worried about going home than getting meat. Ralph is also chief and he is upset nobody is doing what he tells them to do. His instinct is to follow other smoke in order to be saved.

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" 'You and your blood, Jack Merridew!  You and your hunting!  We might have gone home.'"(70)  Ralph wants to get rescued, Jack just wants to hunt.

"'I was chief, and you were going to do what I said.  You talk.  But you can't even build huts-then you go off hunting and let out the fire.'"(70)  Ralph wants to be obeyed since he is chief but instead Jack wants to kill and hunt.

" The fire was dead, the ship was gone.  Could they not see? Anger instead of decency passed his throat."(72)  Ralph was the only one in pain, he was the only one worrying about getting rescued.

Fire is a symbol of being rescued and meat is a symbol of surviving on this island.

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jack--"He began to dance and his laughter became a bloodthirsty snarling. He capered toward Bill, and the mask was a thing on its own, behind which Jack hid, liberated from shame and self-consciousness" 95 After jack painted his face he becomes like an animal. the mask covers up his identity and changes him. His instincts is to become a predator and blend in to the environment round him. The mask represents hiding behind something and giving up the face of human nature.

Ralph-- "Ralph asserted his chieftainship and could not have chosen a better way if he had thought for days. Against this weapon, so indefinable and so effective, Jack was powerless and raged without knowing why. " 102 Ralph gets very angry and upset. He lets his emotions get the better of him and ends up hitting piggy. After the outburst everyone started to obey Ralph and helped light the fire. This shows how Ralph can be assertive. and can get things done. he focuses on getting rescued.

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