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Most people have similar opinions, in my opinion

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- art, of which no objective opinion exists, and is only experienced and felt by senses and feelings, can only be judged through comparison with other art (including poetry and other written forms of art), from other artists. One can not determine if something is good or bad without knowing of something better or worse.

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I felt that the second round had a greater level of involvement from all members of the group, and also had a better interaction and engagement with diverse points of view and higher levels of respectful disagreement

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Carla #2
Thoreau’s intententions involved isolating himself so that he could create a book which was then later inspired him to write abou the woods.

Freethinkers may not necessarily exist as choices are always influenced by your surrounding and experiences that have impacted your life.

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Very thought provoking ideas with many variant opinions
I wish we had more time but I loved everything we got to discuss
I feel like we were able to reach a sound conclusion with reasonable evidence

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1. A freethinker in definition contradicts itself, as free will itself must derive from determinism, as all ideas are simply successors to previous ideas.

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TODAY I LEARNT ABOUT ART. ART IS SOMETHING THAT SUGGESTS A NEW WAY OF THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING.

I ALSO TODAY I LEARNED ABOUT HOW FREETHINKING COULD NOT BE UNIQUE

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Different readings of questions can prompt different conversati

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- Freethinking is a debateable term due to the question of whether it concerns an individual’s own unique thoughts and the aspects of society that they question or whether it is a matter of not conforming to society in all situations.
- Thoreau’s experiment may require more investigation concerning what his intentions were behind deciding to live in the woods.

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1: There is uncertainty surrounding ‘freethinker’ and how we define/generalise it.
2: We might need to research more on Thoreau and clarify how his experiment was conducted.

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My main takeaways were that the definitions for realist, artist, freethinker, etc. are extremely open to individual interpretation

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1. Those who are realist or romantics simply see the world in more exaggerated way extenuating the parts of life they believe dominate it e.g the bad for cynics and love for romantics
2.  Freethinkers may be a paradox as to be a free thinker is not to conform but to force yourself to have free thought is to conform to a rule.

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My main takeaways from the conversation are that the back story of Thoreau changed the way I perceived the question. It shows that there is always more than just the information given. Another takeaway is that art is very difficult to define, as it is a very personal opinion.

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- art is something that challenges perceptions, or offers new views
- freethinking can be very limited

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Freethinkers ironically are quite undefined.

Henry David Thoreau was not quite a naturalist and though he was against development, he was benefiting from it somewhat hypocritically.

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Definitions of archetypes can vary eg, what is an artist?
Thoughts are not purely unique and maybe influenced by our environment whether we know/like it or not.

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- freethinker can have 2 definitions - someone who goes against society’s beliefs entirely and someone who makes their own beliefs separate from society. The first definition is more difficult to argue for the actual amount of freedom of thought it shows outside of simply contrarianism.
- Henry David Thoreau’s experiment of going into the woods was of dubious quality because he did not stay there alone, he frequently returned to civillisation, and his experiment did not take into account properly how other humans would interact with his experiment’s purpose.

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What defines an art, and in the same thought, what defines an artist?
Theoreau was partly a fraud, leaving his cabin for society.

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Hannah Forbes Round 1:

No work is truly original as it has to be compared to the dead and this previous art shapes how you view and value the art

Living by yourself means you are living life at its simplest and are not influenced by other views so therefore you aren’t conforming with the norms of society

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1: Comparing to the dead provides us a base/standard value
2: Thoreau wanted to discover the true purpose of living and believed it could be found under isolating himself in nature

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Two takeaways from the conversation

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A main takeaway is that art will neverbe  truely original and life in the woods according to hu will never be restrictive

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- living life to the fullest has a different definition for everyone
- links to other forms of art in an artwork increase its quality

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1. That many people consider that art does indeed need to be compared to art before it in order to develop a complete appreciation
2. That living life to the fullest is very subjective to many people depending on their circumstance ^_^

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- part of what Henry David Thoreau was trying to prove was that life was more than the restrictions placed upon us
- living life to the fullest could vary based on the person’s abilities to do so, and you can live life to the fullest within restrictions as long as you perceive yourself doing so

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My main takeaways were that to live life to the fullest, it is a mindset that any person can possess, however it is conditional.

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Art can never truly be original, other people provided the stepping stones on which we build art.
Henry David Thoreau was a transcendentalist, believes that growth only exists in the spiritual world. In the woods, there’s no restrictions. Free to develop his emotions.

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Carla #1
Living life to the fullest is about what we choose to do with what we have.
Art is appreciated through the past, by comparing it to past artists and their creations.

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Why do artists have to be dead to be appreciated?
When in the woods there’s no one to oppose their opinions on you... free thinking?

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Living life to the fullest was implied to mean living by your impulses/wants, not what needs to be done.

Living in the woods was considered a raw form of life, one where personal life was not influenced by others

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My two main takeaways from the discussion were that comparison is the only way to value art/poetry. It was also relatively unanimous that being alone created greater freedom.

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- In order to establish the significance of an artist’s work, a point of comparison is required in order to understand its relevance and realise how views change or stay the same.
- While living life to the fullest depends purely on an individual, one way to look at it is making the most of the oppertunities that come you way and making the most of what you have.

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My two key takeaways from this activity were regarding the importance of each individual contributing to the experience as well as the significance of having each individual contribute for a fair amount of time, that is to say, avoiding a scenario where one individual dominated the discussion.

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Simply click and write :)