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In groups, brainstorm responses to the following topics, thinking of relevant moments from the play to support your ideas. You can use dot points and you do not need to settle on a single clear interpretation, and might prefer to present multiple viewpoints.

1. If you lived in the society described in Antigone, would you rather be a man or a woman? Why?

2. To what extent is a person's social status a result of their gender in the play?

3. To what extent are women's voices listened to in the play?

4. What kind of language is used to describe women? How are they spoken to by other characters, particularly those who hold power over them? How do women speak to one another?

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Ava, Alyssa, Allan, Ronak, Lily, Jennifer

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Ava, Alyssa, Allan, Ronak, Lily, Jennifer

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Tarana, Tinka, Zara, Jesse, Ivana, Bella

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Tarana, Tinka, Zara, Jesse, Ivana, Bella

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Room 2 - Rose, Sammi, Bella, Georgia, Ruby, Zara, Sarah

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Room 2 - Rose, Sammi, Bella, Georgia, Ruby, Zara, Sarah

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What is the core problem she faces?
How does she respond to it?

What motivates her in this response?

What is most important to her?

How does she want other people to view her?

What are her flaws?

What aspects of human nature does she represent?

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Room 1 - Ava, Alyssa, Allan, Ronak, Lily, Jennifer, Ivana, Jesse

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Room 1 - Ava, Alyssa, Allan, Ronak, Lily, Jennifer, Ivana, Jesse

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What is the core problem she faces?
How does she respond to it?

What motivates her in this response?

What is most important to her?

How does she want other people to view her?

What are her flaws?

What aspects of human nature does she represent?

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Room 3 - Tinka, Tarara, Sass, Amelia, Grace, Taneka, Lachlan

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Room 3 - Tinka, Tarara, Sass, Amelia, Grace, Taneka, Lachlan

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What is the core problem he faces?
How does he respond to it?

What motivates him in this response?

What is most important to him?

How does he want other people to view her?

What are his flaws?

What aspects of human nature does he represent?

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As a recap of your collected information last lesson, you will be assigned to one character and your group will collaborate to concur on the responses.

My post is open to editing so you should be able to type directly under the questions.

Perhaps select one scribe per group to update the post.

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1.Antigone faces the problem of wishing to bury Polynices, defying Creon’s orders with death as a consequence.
2.She responds to this by ignoring all reason and rationality from her sister and proceeds to bury him anyway, claiming that “no punishment can rob [her] of [her] honourable death.”
3.Her motivation is her love for her family and her loyalty to them, and perhaps also her frustration at her life circumstances.
4.Family is the most important thing in her eyes, and she is willing to die for them, telling Ismene that Creon “has no right to keep [her] from [her] own”.
5. Antigone wishes for other people to view her as someone who is morally right, and prioritises those close to her. She is also almost indifferent to how the king and soldiers will react to her defying them, highlighting that she doesn’t care how she is viewed in the eyes of law as she knows that the ones she loves will know otherwise.
6. She is flawed in her impulsivity, and is blinded partially by emotion.
7. Antigone is rebellious, emotional, and follows her own moral compass, regardless of consequence.

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1. Ismene core problem is that she is confronted with either helping Antigone bury Polyneices or obey Creon's law. 

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1. Ismene core problem is that she is confronted with either helping Antigone bury Polyneices or obey Creon's law. 

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2. She encourages Antigone not to disobey Creon, she is a bit shocked when she see's that Antigone would dare disobey the king. However, she does not betray Antigone. 

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2. She encourages Antigone not to disobey Creon, she is a bit shocked when she see's that Antigone would dare disobey the king. However, she does not betray Antigone. 

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3. Ismene fear and loyalty to Creon persuades her to not help her sister. She lack the confidence to go against the submissive woman stereotype at the time.

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3. Ismene fear and loyalty to Creon persuades her to not help her sister. She lack the confidence to go against the submissive woman stereotype at the time.

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4. Ismene values safety and dislikes any conflict especially in her family. 

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4. Ismene values safety and dislikes any conflict especially in her family. 

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5. Ismene wants to be seen a perfect niece, and loyal to Creon's law, a good law abiding citizen. She desired to be an example of the 'good' woman listening to the man and following whatever is asked of her.

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5. Ismene wants to be seen a perfect niece, and loyal to Creon's law, a good law abiding citizen. She desired to be an example of the 'good' woman listening to the man and following whatever is asked of her.

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6. She is the weaker sister, unreliable, morals are a bit questionable  putting law over her family, undeceive, too passive, lets other people influence her thoughts. 

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6. She is the weaker sister, unreliable, morals are a bit questionable  putting law over her family, undeceive, too passive, lets other people influence her thoughts. 

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Creoon is proud and stubborn, which makes him a strong leader, however, he can be short-sighted and close minded because he beleives so strongly in what he says, he finds it hard to listen to other poeple.

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Creon struggles with the decision of whether or not to listen to Antigone's request or whether he should stick with the law and keep what he believes to be order.
Responds by sticking to the laws he set and sentencing Antigone to death. This means no one will challenge his authority.
His morals definitely motivate Creon as he tries to keep peace and order and does so in the only way he thinks he can. He also is perhaps motivated by the need for power and having authority over those who try to challenge him and his opinions-could be why he took such extreme measures.
His kingdom is the most important, it's above everything else-anyone who disagrees he looks down on.
His flaw is pride-can't admit anyone else can be correct, stubborn and abuses his power. Creon doesn’t change with the times which is part of his flaws as he cannot change to keep peace which leads to dire consequences for many-he is fearful.
He stands his ground and sticks to his values.
Creon is very ego driven and has a high opinion of himself. He tries to be a role model to others as well as trying to be quite rational. He's emotional in the sense that he is very driven by his emotions and is passionate. He is very traditional in his ways and is fearful to try new things because he can't predict what the result will be-controlling-doesn't know how to take risks

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1. If you lived in the society described in Antigone, would you rather be a man or a woman? Why?

⅗ said woman (girls saying this)

⅕ said man (guy saying this)

⅕ said i don’t know (girl)

Men were treated with higher respect, women don’t get a say in things, however, still majority would rather be a woman. Not exactly sure why, but we would.

2. To what extent is a person's social status a result of their gender in the play?

Men are treated better, women treated like objects and creature, men are more valued, looks down on women and thinks they’re inferior

3. To what extent are women's voices listened to in the play?

Not listened to at all until it’s too late and the men realise there was some sense in their actions

4. What kind of language is used to describe women? How are they spoken to by other characters, particularly those who hold power over them? How do women speak to one another?

Lots of disrespect, talk about them as if they are objects. Men, particularly Creon, kept using the word ‘creatures’ implying they are revolting and stupid things, not even animals, not even people. It talks about them as if they don’t matter, they are easily replaceable. Spoken down upon and belittled, people are rude and dismissive of them. Most women just accept that they are powerless. The women we see are sisters so they have a very sibling relationship- they have very different personalities and views on the situation, Antigone not wanting to accept her ‘fate’, and Ismene giving up and saying “what more can I do?”.

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1. Collectively, we would rather be men, due to the excess of privilege.
2. A person's social status is quite obviously determined by their gender, as the only woman even close to power is Eurydice and even then she receives no say.
3. Women are allowed to speak their opinion but it is of little consequence and Creon refuses to consider them.
4. Women address each other with kindness and intent to assist each other, whereas men speak down to women and are quick to dismiss their opinions as a result. Creon says that "[he'll] have no woman's law here, while [he] lives" and describes Antigone and Ismene as "creatures" and calls Antigone "vile."

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men because you have more freedom,power, respect.

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men because you have more freedom,power, respect.

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people of powrer most likely in that position bevause of gender and class

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people of powrer most likely in that position bevause of gender and class

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womens voices are silenced until they reach the point they have no choice but to be heard for example antigone creates such an amount of noise bout her prpblems and create conflict people have to listen to

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If I lived in the society described in Antigone, I’d rather be a man considering the privilege they receive from other members of society and the fact that they are not held accountable for their decisions to the same level as the women i.e. Antigone.

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I would rather prefer to be a man because being a man gives more freedom and I can say what;s on my mind while being a woman, they have to be supportive and listen to what their husband has to say. Womens cannot make decisions without their husband and are always excluded from conversations. So being a man would have been better at the time since being a man provides freedom and protection to the kingdom.

I would prefer to have been a man at the time that Antigone is set as men have the ability to make their own decisions and have freedoms that women had not yet been granted. Women were viewed as powerless objects that could be controlled and should act compliant to all commands from men. By being a man, you would have the safety and protection of being the ‘superior’ gender.

I would prefer to be a woman during this time because I wouldn't have to make decisions as I am very indecisive while certain issues I am passionate about I prefer to be quiet. It’s not because I believe that men should be powerful over women, they should be equal, it's more that my personality is suited to not having power.

I would prefer to be a man because of the unequal gender roles and expectations that were withheld for women. It is extremely unideal to be a woman at this stage, as their man role is to give birth and provide ‘services’ to your husband.

I would choose to be a man in the world of Antigone because of all the powers and freedoms that are presented to men. This allows for the freedom to do various things that would not be possible as a woman.

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With regards to the play, Antigone, a person’s social status is related to their gender as characters who are at the peak of the social hierarchy, such as Creon, is a man who has control over everyone. Haemon, who is also royal and heir to the throne is presented as a well respected man and has freedom of speech, whereas Antigone who is also roya, is dismissed and viewed as rebellious for speaking her own mind. Additionally, Ismene is also royal and has no voice of her own and no power over anyone. Therefore, to an extent social status is a result of gender, however even people of a higher status have limited power if they are female.

To an extent a person’s social status is a result of their gender, in that society men were always on the top. They are the kings, prophets, and guards. Women have to listen to whatever the men/ husbands say no matter what the position of a man is and they are able to dismiss them. Antigone and Ismene couldn’t inherit the throne unlike their brothers, they have no control over their life. Any women who dares to disobey are seen as being a mad.

If it’s regarding the play. A person’s social status results because of their gender, in that society, men and women were being treated differently. Mens are always known to be more superior than women while women have no rights to speak what’s on their mind and have to always listen or do what the males have to tell them to. When becoming the next heir, even if the female is a first born. They wouldn’t allow the female to become the next heir unless they were a male. Even when females ascend to the throne, the kingdom won’t take it lightly and spread rumours or racist thoughts across the country.

A person’s social status is partly due to their gender as women are limited to what they are able to do regardless of their family’s status/reputation. They are generally held in a lower regard than men since their purposes are essentially predefined for them.

A person’s social status are ultimately determined by intangible factors in the play, and most prominently it is their gender. They are treated as a sub-human class, and because of the role that they fulfil, they aren’t truly respected.

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For the majority of the play despite the efforts of Antigone to be heard women are not listened to. Creon automatically believes that Antigone is mad and crazy and dismisses her quickly. Haemon, members of the chorus consider her views.

Women’s voices are listened but it is generally if it is for evidence but it is dismissed, otherwise the only women that is inherently listened to is the Queen.

Within this play the women’s voices are not listened to by Creon, who is the only person who needs to listen to their opinions and beliefs. However, although Creon disregards Antigone’s and Ismene’s voice, the Chorus and the people of Thebes do consider their arguments and the people of Thebes even side with Antigone and her demand that Polyneices be buried with proper burial rights.

Evidence shown in the play about whether women’s voices are listened to within the play, women’s voices against arguments are not normally listened to. Even if the opinions of women are correct, others wouldn’t take it as a suggestion. Apart from other women in the society, the queen is the one who voices opinions and others would have listened but depending on the king, even a queen couldn’t voice their opinion openly.

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Key quotes
“You dared to contravene it”

“The wildest horse”

“Hardly in her right mind either”

“Creatures both are mad”

“There are other fields for him to plough”

“Vile a creature”

“The proper place for women”- Proper place for women where they can’t be seen

“Find a mate in Hades”

“Wiles of a women”

“Worthless one”

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A person’s social status heavily revolves around their gender in the play. Even men of lower status will receive more attention than women of higher status.

Considering Creon and his lens, women’s voices aren’t considered fully in the play, they are heard, but not listened to.

Women are described in a dehumanizing manner by other men with more power, which can be contrasted with how they speak to each other- where they speak in a respectful, kind manner.

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-“what more can I do?” : Ismene, pg 127

-“Antigone; we are women; it is not for us to fight against men; our rulers are stronger than we, and we must obey in this, or worse than this” : Ismene, pg 128

-“I cannot act against the state, I am not strong enough” : Ismene, pg 128