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Do any of you have older beginners? If so, what are some of your strategies that you use for getting them interested in Kodaly repertoire and pedagogy?

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I am really proud of the work I was able to do with my fifth graders last year.  They really came along in partsinging.  I'm wondering how I'm going to challenge them this year

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I am really proud of the work I was able to do with my fifth graders last year.  They really came along in partsinging.  I'm wondering how I'm going to challenge them this year

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What do you do with a student who is "too cool" for music class?

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Comment:  Older students learn faster, but will not be as open to changing something they "think" they already know.

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Comment:  Older students learn faster, but will not be as open to changing something they "think" they already know.

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Question: How do you deal with older students that might have transferred in from other schools that have far different ability levels than the students you've taught all year?

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How do you streamline lessons to catch students up while still doing age appropriate music?

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How do you streamline lessons to catch students up while still doing age appropriate music?

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I remember the older students enjoying aspects of the lessons that involved instruments.

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Question:  How do I keep older students from feeling like some of the activities we are doing aren't "Kiddie?"

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Question:  How do I keep older students from feeling like some of the activities we are doing aren't "Kiddie?"

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Question: How do we differentiate lessons for classes with several students who are already strong with concepts and others who are beginners?

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I appreciate how older students are more self aware, and know how to give themselves and others feedback.

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I've enjoyed teaching takatiki to my older students-they have a lot of fun with the songs and games

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Question: How do you catch older beginners up to their classmates on a faster pace than you would normally teach?

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Question: How do you catch older beginners up to their classmates on a faster pace than you would normally teach?

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I've found that many of my older students find it "insulting" when something is perceived to be beneath their level (even if I've already told them that we're reviewing a concept). I'm hoping this goes away since I've only been in my school for three years...

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Question: How do you keep older students engaged/how long should each activity be?

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I have trouble with "buy-in" for some of my older classes - especially if students have come from other schools and are unfamiliar with me and the way we do music class. I'm wondering if it's my choice of games/activities, or if this is a common problem for other music teachers.

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All of my older students so far have been older beginners. I feel that they have found success in learning basic rhythmic concepts quickly, but several of them still struggle with maintaining a gentle tuneful singing voice, which makes me concerned about how I'd go about teaching modal concepts with limited time with them.

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How do you engage older beginner non-english speaking students from day 1? I can speak Spanish, (most of my ESOL students are Spanish-Speaking) but the other kids get frustrated with me if they hear me speaking Spanish.

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With my older students I've found I need to acknowledge their outside life experiences and real world knowledge before they will form a relationship with me.  

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With my older students I've found I need to acknowledge their outside life experiences and real world knowledge before they will form a relationship with me.  

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I've noticed that older students are more concerned with autonomy than younger students.  Planning instruction for them both involves making sure they have the skills they need to be successful and allowing them plenty of opportunities to practice and have voice/choice in their learning.

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I've noticed that older students are more concerned with autonomy than younger students.  Planning instruction for them both involves making sure they have the skills they need to be successful and allowing them plenty of opportunities to practice and have voice/choice in their learning.

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Question:  What is your favorite unit/concept to teach older students?

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Question:  What is your favorite unit/concept to teach older students?