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Name: Ryan Wotruba
Email: 24437RW@chaminade-hs.org

Name: Liam Wulff
Email: 24438LW@chaminade-hs.org

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RULE 1: Read your book and follow the due dates.

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RULE 1: Read your book and follow the due dates.

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Section/Pages: Chapter 1-6
Members Present: Liam and Ryan

Discussion Highlights:
- The book starts off with two soldiers dying.
-Cross has a deep love for Martha, a girl who he’s only went on a single date with.
-He keeps zoning out while describing the story of the war.
-Talks about the things that the platoon carries. The platoon carries mental, physical, and spiritual items.
- Lieutenant Cross negatively effects his platoon because he daydreams too much. This ultimately led to the demise of Ted Lavender.

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The Things They Carried by: Tim O’Brien

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Section/Pages: Chapters 19-22
Members Present: Ryan

Discussion Highlights:
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Section/Pages: Chapters 13-18
Members Present: Liam and Ryan

Discussion Highlights:
- Liam says young man was the enemy. Liam would be conflicted because on one hand he killed someone, but on the other hand it’s war.
- I think I would also be conflicted. It would be my job to protect my platoon, but after the war this would leave me in a bad mental state.
- Liam said that if he were O’Brien, he would feel awful. To an extent, he put someone to their death.
- I said that I would feel horrible, but Bowker was already dealing with mental problems. If I were to do a better job on writing the text, the result of Bowker’s life may have been different. This would leave a permanent impact on my life.

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Section/Pages: Chapters 7-12 Specifically Chapters 11 and 12. Pages 115-116 and 118-123.
Members Present: Ryan and Liam

Discussion Highlights:
-Liam thinks that in a time of war, that is fine.
-Makes a reference to Churches in WW2.
- I would probably feel emotionally scarred, but it really depends on the person. Maybe I would different, if that person injured or killed a person in my platoon, but if not, then I would be damaged.
- Liam just says it’s a part of war. You’re still killing someone and he would be scarred, but not that much. Much less than if he killed an innocent person.
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Cycle 1: Chapter 1-6
Cycle 2: Chapter 7-12
Cycle 3: Chapter 13-18
Cycle 4: Chapter 19-22

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What are the things they carry?

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When O’Brien stated that the dead still live, could this be a religious reference to everlasting souls?

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Beginning of Chapter 13, The emotion displayed by the narrator when he blew up a single Vietnam soldier in the night. Left him vulnerable he didn’t like to talk about it. How would you feel looking down at the man you just killed? Especially a young man like he was?

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“Church”

In Chapter 11, the platoon finds a pagoda that they think is abandoned. When they walk in, they find two monks. The platoon takes advantage of these monks and turns the pagoda into a base-type structure. At the end of this chapter, Dobbins and Kiowa talk about how they should not have taken this holy place and turned into a military fort.

Do you agree with Kiowa and Dobbins, or do you think turning the pagoda into a military fort was fine in a time of war?

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https://forms.gle/cCJbHs6scjgEERui7

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Access Google Forms with a personal Google account or Google Workspace account (for business use).

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RULE 3: Don’t forget to bring your book.

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RULE 3: Don’t forget to bring your book.

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How do Lieutenant Cross’s daydreams effect the platoon?

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In Chapter 16, O’Brien describes how Bowker was dealing with his own problems the years after the war. The death of Kiowa left a big effect on his mental state and the way he lived his daily life. Bowker asked O’Brien to write a story about these events. O’Brien did not do the best job writing and Bowker ended up killing himself almost a year later. If you were O’Brien, how would this event effect your life?

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In Chapter 12, The Narrator talks about the man he killed. He saw him when the sun was rising walking the road. He had a grey ammunition bag and a gun. The Narrator threw the grenade up in the air and killed him. If this were to happen to you in a time of war how would you feel?

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1 Brainstorm a LIST OF THEMES for the book thus far. Then, select one theme from the list and find at least three pieces of textual evidence to support it. 1

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How does Martha effect Lieutenant Cross?

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1. Our meeting was successful, but we should work on reading the whole cycle of chapters.
2. Our meetings can become more effective if we fully read and analyze to the best of our ability.
3. Our meeting went well today and we covered all of our topics.

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1. Overall, our discussion went well and we are continuing to get better as our meetings move along.
2. One thing we can work on is the flow of the talk. Sometimes it goes flat, but we can work on that.
3.  Liam and I are continuing to bring in our books and reading them, which is a good thing.

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1. We were very successful in achieving our agenda. We got everything done and greatly improved from last time.
2. Liam made connections to WW2, which gave me a new perspective and comparison to the Vietnam War.
3. Our meeting went well today. We both brought good ideas to the discussion.

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Mental Health Awareness(PTSD)

How do people feel comfort during war?

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Story boards about a chapter in the book and we can do voices for the characters.

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Show how the different characters were affected by the way in the following years.