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Steinbeck purposely let Curley's wife nameless because he wanted to represent how Curley's wife is his property.

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Dreams are the hope of the migrant workers in the 1930's. However, when dreams are lost, characters are left in a void of hopelessness.

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I agree with Stuthi’s post about how Curley’s wife goes unnamed throughout the book because she’s treated as the equivalent of Curley’s property (hence the name that Steinbeck calls her) and none of the men want anything to do with her, to the point where they don’t know her name.

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Although I believe that they were both mercy killings, they were different degrees simply because of who was getting killed. As a person, I consider the death of a another person to be worse than that of another animal. Dogs may feel the same way; they may not. Simply, I value the life of a person over the death of an animal, so I believe that the death of Lennie’s was more extreme than that of Candy’s dog

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I believe that George killing Lennie was a mercy killing because when Curley found his wife dead, Candy said “Curley gon’ta wants get ‘im lynched” (94). Also after George shot Lennie, the men came to the brush. George killed Lennie to save him from getting lynched

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In this time period, killing someone was not considered morally wrong if someone else had killed another. An eye for an eye. On page 97, all the men immediately agree with Curly to kill Lennie.

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I still don't understand why the book is named Of Mice and Men

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I still don't understand why the book is named Of Mice and Men

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When Curly's wife gives up her dream, she becomes isolated, showing how Steinbeck sees dreams, even fruitless ones, as necessary.

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I agree with Chloe and Sakras. Mice of Men is like an allegory for a modern society like high school and its divisions. The mean, popular, bully can be Curley. The powerless crowd that doesn't have much importance is like Candy. The outcasts are like Crook, because Crook is casted out. George is the nice people that care for others.

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I agree with Chloe that the characters were all symbols. Each character had a role to play in the book that represented something else.

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The time period's form of punishment and justice may have affected George's decision.

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I agree with the fact that the book isn't just a heavy-handed lecture. Each of these characters are going through something as emotions. However, there is plenty of symbolism like how Curley's wife represents sexism and Crooks represents racism.

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The novel can be interpreted as an allegory for the society of the time but also today's society with each character representing certain aspects of humanity that cause conflict and suffering but these characters are also not one-dimensional and have other motivations making them good parallels for how people act in times with a dreary outlook and how their prejudices can exacerbate their suffering.

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In the book, sexism is shown more than racism and is therefore made worse. While Crooks only gets one scene, Curly's wife is given many rants about her alienation.

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I believe that the reader can take home 2 different things from reading the novel.
1. All the characters are symbols and the book is a lecture discussing problems around society such as discrimination, sexism, and racism.
2. The characters are not symbols and the reader learns about the "American Dream", the Great Depression, and all around history during this time period.

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The characters seem to represent a certain group in the 1930s society. For example, Curley's wife represented gender discrimination and Crooks represented the discrimination of African Americans. I don't believe the characters represent a real, individual person, but rather a group.

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The men on the ranch try to avoid conversations and interactions with Curley's wife because he is the land owners son

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Curley's wife was used to show how even though some people were powerless in the grand scheme of their lives, they were able to assert their power over others in smaller ways such as threatening Crooks with a lynching after he talked back to her or how talking to her can get a worker fired.

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All of the characters in the book resemble a specific discriminatory factor such as racism with Crooks and sexism with Curley's Wife.

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Characters are symbols of certain concepts: Crooks-racism Curley's wife-sexism

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Racism, sexism, and discrimination were not treated as equally evil because these forms of suppression was the norm for them, so they didn't see anything wrong with it.

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I agree with what Kevin said about Curley’s wife being alienated because no one wants to talk to her since she is married to Curley and he’s the bosses son. This shows how the values of the characters are different at this time because the characters main priority was to work and not to socialize with others. They could gain another companion by talking to Curley’s wife but instead they fear angering her and getting fired.

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The alienation of the Crooks (because of race) and Curley (because of gender) both enhance the whole work's theme about isolation and companionship.

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The others leaving Lennie behind when they go into town shows that mental ability also separates people.

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I like Harry's connection to the pre-reading activity we did in class before starting to read the novella. He discussed how Crooks and Curley's wife relates to the "less popular" kids at school and Curley is like the "popular" kids at school.

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I agree with Sahasra because Crooks realizes that he is separated because of his race. He even stops trying to play cards with the other men because he knows he will be rejected.

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As the colored stable hand, Crooks was alienated based on his race and was isolated by such views, relating to the loneliness demonstrated throughout the book.

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People are often alienated because they are different from the majority population, which was, at the time, white males. Therefore, people like Curley's wife and Crooks was often alienated, which lead to them acting very different. Alienation leads to loneliness.

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Crooks was alienated from all of the other workers because is African American and at the time they were not as important as other people.

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Curley's wife struggled to achieve her dream because of the fact that she was stuck under the control of Curley. Curley had a lot more power than she did.

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Throughout the text Curley's wife is begging for attention, for example she wears a bright red dress just so she will be noticed

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I feel like Crooks

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I agree with Sahasra, Crooks is alienated from the others because he is African American, and African Americans were thought of as the inferior race during the 1900's. People did not value him and treated him as just the stable buck. He lived alone and wasn't even allowed to play cards with the other men (Steinbeck 67). As a result, Crooks is extremely lonely and gruff.

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Candy tries to free himself from the farm, which totally controls his life, because he knows that when he becomes useless they will kill him like his dog. He tries to free himself by giving all of his money to George, even though he barely knows him, which shows how desperate his is.

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Curley's wife struggled with the power of others as she could not escape the grasp of her husband. "Think I like to stick in that house alla' time" (Steinbeck 77). The quote refers to her being stuck in the house all the time, but may also be viewed as the house being the sexist views that caused her to be inferior.

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Crooks was also struggling for power, Crooks attempted to kick Lennie out of his room saying he has no right to be in the room but in reality, Crooks wants some company from Lennie but also wants to gain power over Lennie. In the end of the chapter Crooks failed his attempt to gain power over Lennie as Lennie stayed in his room and Crooks gave in and invited him to sit down and talk.

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I believe alienation in the novel leads to loneliness for example, Crooks and Curley's Wife.

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Candy's dog's death and Lennie's death are different degrees of the same thing because they're both ultimately mercy killings. George's point of view while killing Lennie wasn't as punishment, but as mercy to prevent the other punishment he'd receive from Carlson and Curley.

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The fact about how Curley takes possession and restrains her also shows the imbalance of social power structure of the setting. Curley's wife is trapped like how a celebrity is restrained by the fans, news, and papparrazzi restraining them from having a normal life.

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Curley's wife tried to use the excuse that she was looking for Curley in order to see other people besides him.

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George is one of the characters who struggles to assert himself and gain power throughout the novel, with him being unable to achieve his dream of a farm and his constant bitterness that he is unable to own land like Curley's father and others.

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Curley's wife did use her looks to get power in the novel, over the poor farmhands.

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I believe that Steinbeck didn't add Curley's wife's name to represent the lack of women's rights in the 1930s. It further emphasized Curley's wife belonging to her husband like property. She is also not named because no one really cares about her, in chapter 5, pg 85, line 29, it states "Seems like they ain't none of them cares how I gotta live."

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Both killings were the same in some aspects, but both had different qualities 

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Both killings were the same in some aspects, but both had different qualities 

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The American Dream for the men gave many migrant workers hope

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The American Dream for the men gave many migrant workers hope

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During the time period the role of women was not considered important and they were just considered part of the household but Curley's wife continued to attempt to be acknowledged

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Its similar to Roman times where women were named after their fathers, showing how woman's rights hadn't progressed sense then.

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Its similar to Roman times where women were named after their fathers, showing how woman's rights hadn't progressed sense then.

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An additional detail about women being discriminated is when Steinbeck not only doesn't give her a name but makes her die.

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I agree with Kevin saying that the novel was primarily used to draw attention to social issues, and that the lack of a name for Curley's wife is used to draw attention to the lack of agency of women and respect for them in that time period.

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I agree with kevin saying that the reason that curley's wife didn't get a name because it proved that women back then were viewed as inferiors to men.

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I agree with Chloe and Friana. Since Curley is really overprotective of his wife Steinbeck uses that to add to the fact that Curley has "possession and control" over his wife.

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I agree with Kevin, women were viewed as inferior, reflecting their ignorance the ranch workers had towards Curley's wife and her overall existence.

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A character that had significant struggles in the novella was George, because he was constantly suppressed by the need to care for Lenny. This therefore expressing his lack of freedom in a way, and how he is trapped. "If I was alone I could live so easy, I could get a job an' work, an' no trouble, Steinbeck, pg. 10."

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A character that had significant struggles in the novella was George, because he was constantly suppressed by the need to care for Lenny. This therefore expressing his lack of freedom in a way, and how he is trapped. "If I was alone I could live so easy, I could get a job an' work, an' no trouble, Steinbeck, pg. 10."

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I believe that Curley's wife struggles to free herself from the power of her husband by seductively flirting with the other men. She flirts with the other men to gain power over them. Eventually this backfires on her when she flirts with Lennie and ends up dead.

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I agree with Daniel, is was a vital point in the book and the main example of how women were treated unfairly in the early 1930's.

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Steinbeck May have not given Curley’s wife a name to show how women were treated as property. On page 77 and 78 Steinbeck says Curley’s Wife talks about having to be alone in her house all day and Crooks commanded her to go to her house. Curley’s wife was also named as if she was the property of Curley. This shows how Curley’s wife was like property cause she was expected to be in her house all the time and her title showed that she was a possession of someone else.

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Steinbeck may have not given Curley's wife a name because it resembled the discrimination of women in the real world 

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Steinbeck may have not given Curley's wife a name because it resembled the discrimination of women in the real world 

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I agree that she wasn't given a name to represent discrimination towards women

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Steinbeck may have not given Curley's wife a name because it resembled the discrimination of women in the real world 

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Steinbeck may have not given Curley's wife a name because it resembled the discrimination of women in the real world 

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Their dream motivated them and gives them hope.

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The dream was the only part in the novel that was optimistic.

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The message is presents in a pessimistic way but what you can get from it has good outcomes.

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I agree, they can't have a dream without having some kind of hope. 

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I agree, they can't have a dream without having some kind of hope. 

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The optimism behind the American dream message is persisting through hope for dreams.  This statement is false since George did not live up to his dream in the end.

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The optimism behind the American dream message is persisting through hope for dreams.  This statement is false since George did not live up to his dream in the end.

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The American Dream for the men gave many migrant workers hope

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The American Dream for the men gave many migrant workers hope

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Their dreams are their hope.

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I agree that their dream was something to keep them working and moving towards a better future.

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Both of the killings involved putting them out of their misery, or mercy killings. 

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Both of the killings involved putting them out of their misery, or mercy killings. 

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Lennie's killing was a mercy killing since George prevented him from being tortured potentially.  This statement is false since Curley clearly stated that he would shoot Lennie, so it seems odd that he would go on to torture him if John Steinbeck would put that in the book.

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Lennie's killing was a mercy killing since George prevented him from being tortured potentially.  This statement is false since Curley clearly stated that he would shoot Lennie, so it seems odd that he would go on to torture him if John Steinbeck would put that in the book.

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George killing Lennie is because of mercy as Lennie would have killed by Curly.

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Their dream felt realistic at times but in the end didn't end up working out. Some dreams are just meant to stay dreams

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Lennie killed George for his sake in that society lennie would not have survived

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Both killings were the same in some aspects, but both had different qualities 

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Both killings were the same in some aspects, but both had different qualities 

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We are not certain that Lenny's life would've been bad if he wasn't killed. He might've not thought that the asylum was bad because he can't recognize good from bad at times. Also since he had a disability he might've not even been killed.

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Technologies affected this situation as Lennie did have some sort of mental illness

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Society was not accepting of lennies type of condition

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Lennie had to die in this situation for his sake

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I do think this was a similar situation and was handled in the same way. He decided to end his life in a peaceful manner.

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They were able to put Lennie out of his misery since they didn't have the resources to help him 

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They were able to put Lennie out of his misery since they didn't have the resources to help him 

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Friendships will always come to an end some point.  However, there were very few friendships similar to that of George and Lennie's.  George murdered Lennie because he was beyond help.  

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Friendships will always come to an end some point.  However, there were very few friendships similar to that of George and Lennie's.  George murdered Lennie because he was beyond help.  

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Lennie's life may have been preserved if  the society's technologies were advanced enough.

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Lennie's life may have been preserved if  the society's technologies were advanced enough.

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Killing Lennie was the best way for George to live his life, Lennie held him back

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I agree that  George had to kill Lenny because it was the best for him and George.

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I ag