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You guys had a good mix between chevruta work and all class discussion.

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You guys had a good mix between chevruta work and all class discussion.

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RS

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I appreciated how your discussion questions guided our unpacking and understanding of the midrashim. I also liked how we came back together after each chunck of text to understand it completely and hear everyones thoughts. 

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I appreciated how your discussion questions guided our unpacking and understanding of the midrashim. I also liked how we came back together after each chunck of text to understand it completely and hear everyones thoughts. 

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-Natalia

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I liked how you guys compared Isaac and Yishmael and how Avraham treated each of them.

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I liked how you guys compared Isaac and Yishmael and how Avraham treated each of them.

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-MH

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I appreciated the way we did the first midrash together, and the way after each person saying something, you responded with some more insight into it.

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I appreciated the way we did the first midrash together, and the way after each person saying something, you responded with some more insight into it.

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L.S.

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I hadnt realized that Sarah "cast an evil eye" on Ishmael

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I hadnt realized that Sarah "cast an evil eye" on Ishmael

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I really loved having the time and texts to go over these verses because I have gone over them many times but in this shiur I noticed many new things that were very interesting.

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I really loved having the time and texts to go over these verses because I have gone over them many times but in this shiur I noticed many new things that were very interesting.

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I appreciated how you gave a passive character a voice and a redemptive arc and made that relevant to our arc as well. Ms. R

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I loved how much room you guys left for discussion. The source sheet was clear and organized and you all spoke really clearly. 

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I loved how much room you guys left for discussion. The source sheet was clear and organized and you all spoke really clearly. 

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Why is God ok with the fact that Avraham is able to, without a fight, kill his sons.

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Why is God ok with the fact that Avraham is able to, without a fight, kill his sons.

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I never really though of Avraham kicking Yishmael out in comparison to the akaida, and how it's possible God was "preparing" Avraham to sacrifice his son by making him abandon Yishmael.

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I never really though of Avraham kicking Yishmael out in comparison to the akaida, and how it's possible God was "preparing" Avraham to sacrifice his son by making him abandon Yishmael.

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-MH

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I really like how you guys zoomed out to the whole narrative and people in Ishmael's life to really help us understand and shape Ishmaels narrative 

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I really like how you guys zoomed out to the whole narrative and people in Ishmael's life to really help us understand and shape Ishmaels narrative 

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RA

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I learned that Yishmaels Role of both a supporting character and his own individual star is comparable to even our greatest patriachs. 

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I learned that Yishmaels Role of both a supporting character and his own individual star is comparable to even our greatest patriachs. 

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Natalia

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I learned, or rather realized, that the thing that happened with Yishmael was basically a prequel to what happens to Yitzchak in the Akedah, which is a bit of a scary thought.

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I learned, or rather realized, that the thing that happened with Yishmael was basically a prequel to what happens to Yitzchak in the Akedah, which is a bit of a scary thought.

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L.S.

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I learned new ways Yishmael was the "prep" for Yizhak . Ms. R

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I learned that Ishmael getting kicked out of Avraham's house is tied to the Akeda 

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I learned that Ishmael getting kicked out of Avraham's house is tied to the Akeda 

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RA

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No matter how many times I read the verses it is always amazing to discover new things together!

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No matter how many times I read the verses it is always amazing to discover new things together!

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What's more important: a commitment to something bigger? Or family?

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What's more important: a commitment to something bigger? Or family?

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RA

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I would like to explore further sara's character in this story and why she treated hagar and yishmael in such terrible ways.

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I would like to explore further sara's character in this story and why she treated hagar and yishmael in such terrible ways.

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Natalia

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Would Avraham have expressed the same amount of emotional distress that he did with leaving Yishmael if Hashem told him directly before Sara?

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Would Avraham have expressed the same amount of emotional distress that he did with leaving Yishmael if Hashem told him directly before Sara?

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L.S.

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Why does the pshat refuse to give Yishmael the starring role that the midrash gives him? In that vein - why does the Midrash spend so much time teasing out his actions? Ms. R

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Now I believe that Yishmael was actually a good person

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Now I believe that Yishmael was actually a good person

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In the last Midrash there was a comparison between when the Torah says Isaac and Ishmael and when it says Esau and Jacob. I'm just really interested in comparing the two sibling relationships and how they all were treated by their parents.

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In the last Midrash there was a comparison between when the Torah says Isaac and Ishmael and when it says Esau and Jacob. I'm just really interested in comparing the two sibling relationships and how they all were treated by their parents.

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-MH

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I never realized that Ishmael himself might have done something to get him and his mother kicked out

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I never realized that Ishmael himself might have done something to get him and his mother kicked out

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