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Are there certain things that people do that are past forgiveness?

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Are there certain things that people do that are past forgiveness?

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At what point in life is the child responsible for taking care of the parent instead of the other way around?  What are the responsibilities and roles of both parents and children in these different circumstances?

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At what point in life is the child responsible for taking care of the parent instead of the other way around?  What are the responsibilities and roles of both parents and children in these different circumstances?

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What makes human beings more developed than other animals?  What basic animal instincts appear in regular life and in what circumstances?

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What makes human beings more developed than other animals?  What basic animal instincts appear in regular life and in what circumstances?

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What are the strongest bonds that people have with others?  Are there any bonds that people have that are unbreakable?

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What are the strongest bonds that people have with others?  Are there any bonds that people have that are unbreakable?

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Is hope necessary for human survival?  How can hope be motivating?  How can hope be misleading?  What are things that you hope for in life?

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Is hope necessary for human survival?  How can hope be motivating?  How can hope be misleading?  What are things that you hope for in life?

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What is faith?  Is there a difference between religious faith and personal faith?  What does it mean to have blind faith? What would cause you to lose faith (of any sort)?

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What is faith?  Is there a difference between religious faith and personal faith?  What does it mean to have blind faith? What would cause you to lose faith (of any sort)?

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Why do people display power over others?  How can somebody display power over another?  Where is this apparent in the modern world?

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Why do people display power over others?  How can somebody display power over another?  Where is this apparent in the modern world?

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Are humans generally caring toward one another or concerned with self-preservation? 

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Are humans generally caring toward one another or concerned with self-preservation? 

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What past advice/warning have you received that you wished you listened to? Why did you choose not to listen to that advice?  How would your life be different if you adhered to that advice/warning?

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What past advice/warning have you received that you wished you listened to? Why did you choose not to listen to that advice?  How would your life be different if you adhered to that advice/warning?

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i believe humans truly care for each other and want the best for others, but when it comes down to important life threatening decisions people become selfish.

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yes. although i believe everyone gets a second chance, certain things like murder and adultery are things i see as unforgiveable.

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In the book Elie has a very strong bond with his father. This is because he is his only family and person he can trust in the camps. I would consider their bond to be unbreakable. Elie also has a bond with faith. This bond he has through is breakable because many times throughout the book he does give up hope and believes Hit1er isn't their.

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Throughout the book, Elie holds onto the faith of his father and the hope that they will get through the camp together. Elie believes in his father, and that he should stick with him no matter what decisions he makes. Elie mentions that he has more faith in H1tler than in anyone else in or outside the camp. This could be seen as blind faith, because Elie has not come to senses that H1tler is the one putting them through this torture and that he has nothing good planned for the Jews.

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When Elie in put in the infirmary to be seen and treated the doctor advises him to stay two weeks to recover. Elie goes against this advice to be with his father and it ends up not paying off. The jews that had stayed in the infirmary were set free, and the others that had fled, were evacuated. His life would of changed for the better if he had listened to the doctor and him and his fathers hopes would of come true.

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From what I read in Night, it seems people are generally caring for each other.  Even in the concentration camp, the prisoners tried to warn each other to protect them.  I think that people are more caring for each other as long as it doesn't hurt them, however, the moment it will cost them anything, they will turn selfish.  Hence, the people in Night warned each other and tried to sympathize with each other.  However, the never went out of their way to help each other because they knew if they were caught doing so it would mean a harsh punishment.

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I think hope of some sort is necessary to human survival, even if it may not be obvious all the time. In the book Night, most prisoners lived in such a way that they hoped the conditions would get better, and they hoped that they would survive selection. They hoped that there was a better future ahead. Granted that not all of them actually believed this, such as Elie himself, however it was the hope that gave them motivation to see the next day. There was one fellow who lost this hope mentioned in the book. He was an older prisoner whose name was not provided in the book, but on selection day he was so sure that he wouldn't pass and he had absolutely no hope for any kind of future. He staunchly believed this was his end, so he made no effort to survive selection and it proved to be his demise. Had he had hope, there is no gauruntee he would have survived, but he would have made an effort and this could have yeldied a different outcome.

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I think the time when a child becomes the caretaker for the parent can come at many different times. Usually as the parents get older they require more assistance and the children are the ones who are there for them. But in certain circumstances parents may need care earlier than just when they're old. In Elie's case, he is almost taking care of his father while they are at the camp. They both give each other bread and make sure either one is ok, which is really the reason parents and children take care of each other, to make sure they're ok.

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Faith is a strong belief in something. Religious faith is faith to a higher power that you trust and/ or worship. Personal faith is a belief in those close to you and hope that they are there for you. Like Elie, he believes more and more in his personal faith as he loses faith in religion. Blind faith is believing without really understanding. This could be something like H1tler and his followers punishing jews without really understanding why, or any evidence.

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In Elie's case, hope is something that he struggles with, but ultimately keeps him alive. The hope of staying with his father motivates him to push through each day because he doesn't want to leave his father alone. In the beginning, it was slightly misleading because Elie saw this as a bump in the road that would end shortly, but it ended up becoming his new norm.

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It's obvious that Elie's strongest bond is the one he shares with his father because it gets him to push through each day and give him something to look forward to. But, the friendship that he has with Tibi and Yossi help him as well. Even though there is no history and they met in the camp, they stick together. During the selection, they urged Elie that they all stick together because they would be stronger together.

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People find power important to being in charge of something or someone(s). They do this so they could feel safe, or feel a sense of happiness. People display power by their ability to defeat or conquer another, if that be physically, mentally, socially, or psychologically. This can be seen in the modern world where people will certain information on others to gain money or loyalty, holding it over their heads. The leaders of the concentration camp show power by their random acts of violence that none of those in the camps can fight against for fear of their death.

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Humans are more developed than than animals by our ability to improvise, improve, and adapt to our situations. People began as any other animal, and through our ability to grow and improve on our situations with inventions and society, we were able to spread to all over the globe and begin "higher level thinking" as we question what's around us and the why of everything. Basic instincts can be seen in humans when we act on strong emotions. Strong fear causes people to make decisions without thought or different from how they normally would, the same if someone feels strong feelings of love for someone. This can be seen by the people in the concentration camps doing selfish acts to save themselves over others.

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Faith is the belief in something, and in Elie's case he has faith in something coming to help or save them. Personal faith is the belief within yourself that you can get through something, but religious faith is the belief in a higher figure (which is sometimes god) to help you. Blind faith is believing in something not knowing that nothing can help you, the idea that Elie continues to pray yet nothing is happening. Loosing faith would occur from not seeing any aid from god, Elie doesn't see gods help in his situation and it is hard to still believe when nothing is helping.

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Hope is necessary for human survival, for Elie's case hope is all he has. When Elie is in a situation like he is in he doesn't have many things that he can control, so him hoping is a way to motivate him to stick through it and do what he can to stay alive. Hope can be misleading because he is just hoping for a change but he may not get it.

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I think that most people are more concerned with self-preservation. People volunteer at hospitals, food pantries, churches, and other places to contribute to the community and others raise money or awareness about a cause such as cancer, an example being Alexs’ Lemonade Stand. Although they do these things, people do put a lot of time and effort into themselves and their lifestyle and generally don´t think about other people first. I think that most people in the world have a caring heart and want to help or feel sorry for less fortunate people but mostly only work on benefiting themselves on a daily basis. However, in Night I think people are concerned with others around them and all of them surviving over themselves because of the situation they are faced with. You see this with Elie and his father.

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There are so many different situations where a child might have to take care of an adult rather than the other way around. Some examples are when the parent gets really old and the grown child allows the parent to move in with them. The now grown child would have to provide a home, food and proper health care for that older parent. When living in the same household the parent might become sick, has a disability or a broken bone. The child would have to help them get better, such as getting them food, helping them around the house and aiding their needs for recovery. Also if a parent is addicted to 🤬 or alcohol, children find themselves becoming the mature adult to take care of that sick parent and the rest of the family. The responsibilities this child might have to take on is feeding the other children, getting jobs to support the family and provide a stable homelife, trying to get help for the adult suffering from addiction, and lots of other tough things a young child shouldn't have to do. In Night, Elie feels he needs to take care of his father and make sure he is ok over himself.

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Faith is when you believe in something, whether it is a higher power or within yourself/others. Elie has always had a strong faith in a higher power. He was religious, and wanted to learn all about God. He had a lot of faith in God. But, when he was brought into the concentration camps, this faith started to slip away from him. He felt that he could not believe in God because of the bad things happening. He felt as though God has given up on him, which made him lose his religious faith. Since he felt that he could no longer trust God, the only thing he was holding onto was his personal faith. Elie and his father's faith that this would get better was the only thing that kept them going. They relied on each other and were always there for each other to get through this hard situation. Blind faith is when someone continues to believe in something and is in denial that it will not help them. Elie continues to pray to God for things to get better, when really it is not helping him. For a little bit, he still believes that God is there and continues to pray to him even though it is not helping. Elie also mentions how he only has faith in Hit1er. He believes that Hit1er is the one helping them, when really, he is the one putting them through this. Elie is in denial that Hit1er is a bad person. He has faith in Hit1er when he should not.

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I believe that in many situations, people are more caring towards others than themselves. There are definitely people who are self-preserved and who put themselves first. But, I think a majority of the world is willing to put others first and always help other people to the best of their ability. Most people would not put themselves through a life-threatening situation to help someone, but I think they still would do anything to help them. In Night, I think most of the people in the concentration camps care for each other. They all grew up in the same town, and have always been there for each other. In the concentration camps, some people share their portions of bread and coffee to to to others, and will do anything to protect each other. For example, Elie and his father. They would do anything to protect each other before protecting themselves, because that is what people do when they care about someone. Even the prisoners in the concentration camps try and give tips to everyone in order to survive. I think people care more about others, in most situations, especially in Night.

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I believe that if we are talking about people in general, they are usually more self-preserved. Sure, we have a ton of people around the world that do great things to contribute and help out others, but I think that the people that are more self-preserved rather than caring towards one another. People usually put themselves first, and make sure that they are okay and doing well before putting their concern on someone else. I get that this does not apply to everybody, but it applies to most. Take bullying for example. There are many times when people are bystanders and won't stand up for the person being bullied because they just don't want to get involved. This is self-preservation right here.

If we are talking about the people in Night, this is a completely different situation. In this situation, they are in a very stressful environment where they NEED to show care for each other, and this is evident in the relationship between Elie and his father. They care for each other very much, and if anything, the concentration camp has brought them closer together.

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Although most people deserve second chances, there are some things that people do that should never be forgiven. If we are talking in general, as I mentioned before, cheating on a significant other is something that I would not forgive. I would lose all trust in that person, and I do not think I would give them a second chance because there is a good chance that they will go and do it again. They would essentially lose all respect that I have for them.

In regards to Night, there is one main thing going on in this story that could never be forgivable, which is the fact that 🤬 is putting people in concentration camps, putting people through torture, and killing many innocent people who deserve to have a life and did nothing wrong. 🤬 could never be forgiven by anyone because the thing he did was so beyond forgiveness. For the Jews that made it out alive, there is no way that they would be able to forgive 🤬 for the pain and suffering that he put people through.

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With my understanding I believe that under the right circumstances, humans can be compassionate for each other. This is only if the singular human has what they need and chooses to be compassionate. The people on the train when Mrs. Schachter was screaming, were not at all compassionate, because they didn't have what they needed first

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Hope is necessary for survival. As long as you have the food, water, and shelter that you need, hope will flourish. If you have no hope or motivation at all, your chances of survival decrease rapidly, like when Elie and the other men see the piles of burning bodies, their hope goes down and so does their chances of surviving and escaping

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I think people display power over others because deep down they feel weak inside, and to trick themselves into feeling brave they display power over others. People in charge during WW2, let power get to their head. Leaders in camps, and 🤬 himself all let power get to their head and abused people for no reason.

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I think that when the parent is not capable of taking care of themselves, the child should help them out by visiting them a lot or letting their parents live with them. In Elies situation, he was taking care of his father while in the camp because he needed his father.

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I beleive that hope is something that is necessary for human survival. Without the hope of something happening you have mothing to look forward to in life and nothing t wish and strive for. In Elies case, if he lost hope of getting out of these concentration camps, I dont think he would be able to go on living, because if he is just gonna live life there, is there even a point to living? Peopel who say that they have lost hope in something often become depressed or angered about whatever they have lost hope in (be that a small or large thing). And maybe hope isnt exactly needed to live, I think that it is needed to live any life that someone would avcually want to live. I dont think that anybody would want to live a life without hope,

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I beleive that humans are generally caring toward themselves when it comes to all humans as a whole, but when it comes down to a few humans who they really like, they are caring towards one and other. This is shown in the story when Elie is somewhat numb at this point to other people in the camp being tourtered and sometimes killed, but in the case of his father, he still cares deeply and is still making sacrafices for him.

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Faith is very important for Ellie through this whole thing, she has faith in god that he will make everything be okay and has personal faith that she can get through this. Her blind faith is that she is praying and praying and nothing is happening, this may cause her to loose it

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Like is said in my previous comment to this, One of the things that is unforgivable is taking human life, The naizs have taken this to a whole new level. They are slaughtering people for no reason. This can never be forgiven for the people that went through that

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Hope is necessary for humans to survive. Without hope, humans will become unmotivated. Hope can be misleading because some of the prisoners were hoping for the best, but were still thrown in the ovens. In life, I hope to be successful and to get a good job. The prisoners who had hope typically survived longer because they were able to stay motivated, and continued to work hard and do good.

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People display power over others to boost their ego, and to make them feel confident in themself. It makes people feel better about themself. Someone can display power over another by allowing what they can and cannot do in their life. This is shown in current life by parents over children, and teachers and principles over students.

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I do believe that there are things one could do that are absolutely unforgivable and can't be accepted under any circumstances, and H1tler and the Naz1s did just about all of the ones you could think of. Imagine digging a grave that you were to be shot and then put into. We saw that happen. Imagine being forced into slavery and once you've served enough you get burned alive. We saw that happen. All of these things are beyond forgiveness and warrant no opportunities to atone for these sins. People always deserve a second chance, but things like these serve as chances 1-99 in my book.

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Faith is a large theme present throughout this entire memoir, and for good reason. In the beginning, Elie holds onto the faith he has in God, and he keeps this faith until he arrives in the camp. He begins to question this bond, but it's still there nonetheless. But faith doesn't have to be in God. Elie also has faith in his father. Elie's father is a large source of moral support for him throughout the novel, and the fact that Elie holds onto him so dearly and looks for his support and love in these dark times shows that faith does not directly equate to religion.

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I think that without hope of a future there is no future. It is necessary for people to continue living. I think that while hope can lead to let downs and disapointment, without it there is no chance of getting what ever it is that you are yearning for. We see this in the book when Eli tells us of the man who after losing fate in god accepted his death sentence. If he had not accepted his sentence he may have appeared stronger to the SS officers, because outer strength is only visible when the inner strength is there supporting it.

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There is a large difference between religious faith and personal faith. This can be seen in the novel because even though Eli is questioning his faith to his god, his faith in his survival never falters. He always believes that he may survive, this faith strengthens him. So even though his faith in his religion has faltered his faith in himself hasn't.

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MY previous answer to this question was that there was nothing in the world that was past forgiveness, as long as that person was sorry for their actions. I have since switched my stance and now believe that there are things in this world that can be done, that I would never forgive that person for doing. After reading Night I've realized how cruel some humans could be. Jewish people were thrown into concentrations camps and were treated terribly and sometimes even burned to death. If I was involved in that I would find it very hard to believe I would forgive someone for making me go through that terrible experience.

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Elie receives advice from the "faceless" man in the infirmary. After they both heard the rumor about the Red Army coming and liberating the Jews, the man told Elie that it was just an illusion and Hit1er is planning to annihilate all Jews. Elie didn't believe him because he wondered why it even mattered to him. If Elie had listened to the man and stayed not evacuated, he would of been freed.

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I think hope is necessary for survival. This is because without hope you have no motivation. If Elie were to have no more hope, I have a feeling that he would not be going through the physical and mental challenges that he faces every day because he wouldn't have the motivation to do it. If he didn't think he could get out of there alive, then why else would he put himself through the pain everyday? Because of his hope for survival, he is able to survive! Without it he would have just gotten himself killed to stop himself from having to go through all the harsh treatment he gets. Hope is absolutely necessary for human survival.

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Yes, I believe that in some cases, you can never forgive a person for what they have done. In the modern world today, you could choose to never forgive a person because they broke your trust multiple times. This is different though than the situation the Jews faced during this time. This is 100% past forgiveness. Putting innocent people in danger and even killing them just because you don't agree with something they believe in is unforgivable. Killing any innocent person for your own benefit should never be forgiven. That is taking things way to far and destroying bonds between humans that show and demonstrate peace and unity. Something his brutal should definitely go unforgiven.

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humans as a species are relatively codependent on one another.  I think this goes without saying that to a certain extent, all humans care for other people.  We can feel sorrow for other people, we can feel anger for other people, we can feel happiness for other people, etc.  But in a situation such as the Holocaust, when general rights and freedoms of a civilized life are stripped away, it no longer becomes about what you can do for others, but what you can do for yourself, survival of the fittest. Everyone as a whole is trying to stay alive, everyone is suffering the same agonies, however, in brutal cases such as many were in, it became ultimately about how to get by, how to survive until the next day.   This shows how humans can be self- preservationists as well as caring beings. it all depends on the situation .

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it is a pretty well known fact that with power comes both positive and negative aspects.  On one hand, people with power can receive love, respect, material goods.  And on the other hand, people in power can also hatred and anger.  In some cases, some derive more power by instilling fear and agony in people's lives.  This is the case with 🤬's Germany.  If people are feared to the point that no one dares or cares to stand up to them, they can ultimately do whatever they want.  With nothing or no one in their way, there is no reason to act in a fair manner or in a level headed way. Power makes it easy for people to do whatever they like and have it be justified.

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Good responses.  So, Elie's refusal to participate in his religious observances show his prioritization of survival over faith.  Do you believe he will return to his faith?

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What do you make of their blind hope or naive optimism in the beginning (chapter 1)? Why do you believe Elie includes this at the start of the novel? (To illustrate what or to make a point about what?)

Also, I think it was the first poster who mentioned Stein who lost hope and ultimately was sent to the crematoria or the prisoner who gave up, resulting in the inmates forgetting to say the Kaddish.  What do these episodes reveal to the reader?

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Elie, on page 19, references his inability to forgive his oppressors.  Our guest speaker Michael, if we were still in school, takes an opposite approach.  Michael chooses to forgive because the hate for his perpetrators was too difficult a burden for him to bear.  It allowed him to find peace in his life.  What are your thoughts on this?