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2. Good character is about being a good person

Some students confuse a strict teacher as being bad and a lenient teacher as being good. A good person may have perceptions, traits and actions of the person by others.

CCE 2021 aims to develop in our students: Have a sound moral compass and a strong sense of right and wrong. think critically and ethically, be discerning in judgment, take responsibility for choices and actions, be caring towards others and strive for excellence.

Future readiness of students and be aware they should have adaptability and have a positive mindset.

Metacognitively, students do know what to do but that does not really translate to actions.

There may be a difference between “having good character” and “being a good person.”  There is definitely some overlap between these as most good people also have good character, but in the end, they are two distinct things.

- a person’s core values and
- their motivations for acting as they do.

Other factors and experiences may influence the character traits we have but in the end if teachers can impart a positive growth mindset, anyone should be given the opportunity to be better as a person.

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4. Good citizens should be loyal, law-abiding, and obedient.

To be good citizens, we must have a sense of belonging to the place we live in. In order for citizens to have a sense of belonging, they must have something that they can identify with, a place, a purpose, a goal, etc.  So being good citizens is not only about being loyal, law-abiding, and obedient, we must also trust in the system because the system is perfect. If the system is not perfect, the sentence will not hold true. The word obedient is too strong, there should be other adjectives to replace it. We want our students to think critically, so if we use the word obedient, there isn't any room for them to be critical, they just have to follow blindly.

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"A person who has social-emotional competency can be a con-man/woman"

A person who has SC competency should be able to self-regulate, have strong coping and problem solving skills and positive social connections. Hence it is really up to the person's moral compass to do what is right. (guided/contributed by schools. teachers, friends, parents etc)

But we recognise that someone with strong SC competency may be able to influence/manipulate others. Again, boils down to moral compass/value system

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Knowing does not lead to Doing...
eg. Integrity/ respect

Is the notion of value subjective?
Is it age appropriate or culture-driven?

Is good values synonymous across all cultures?

Students come to school with different experiences, backgrounds and belief systems.
- How do we bridge the gap ?
- How do we touch their hearts and ensure they act upon sound values?

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1. Knowing good values translate into doing what is right.

Some disagree, because Knowing values does not always translate to doing it.

Some agree with the statement as it starts train reaction of positive actions.

The importance of norm as students might have grew up in a different environment.

It also depends on the person's character and personality as knowing and doing are different things.

Plato: If you know good you can do good, it is an on going debate.

Defining what is right and wrong is dependant on the individual's culture, values and belief.

Schools follow Universal agreement (secular view) of what is right and wrong, for example bullying is bad.

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3. A Person who has socio-emotional competence can be a con-man/woman.

Group Response: This is a reasonable but realistic mental model. For a con-man/woman to be able to cheat people, they have to first know how to emotionally leverage on someone's goodwill or acceptance to cheat them. As such, this is possible. As shown by several cases that is reported in the news, white-collared professionals and even high-ranked civil servants who have risen through the ranks of the systems that they are in, have been tried in court for mismanagement / embezzlement / corrupt practices. The fact that they rose through the ranks, means that they have some Socio-emotional competence. Its just that moral grounding is different from being merely 'competence'. There is a non-negotiable line that should not be crossed. That comes from a value system that they have gathered over the years, starting with school and their family.

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A person who has SEC can be a con man/woman

Yes, White collar criminals. They are eloquent speakers.

Pre-requisite to be a con person is to have high Social Emotional Competencies

Also, has no integrity, dominate another person. They do it as emotional blackmail

They have all 5 characteristics: Self awareness, etc Ocean’s 11, Inventing Anna.

Values: Who defines the values?  What’s right? Wrong? Personal values vs societal accepted values.

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Do you agree /disagree?
Agree with law abiding and loyal are the prerequisite
Disagree with the word Obedient - Everyone should have a voice
Better word should be supportive - hard to get things done if the nation don't support

What is a good citizen to you?
How to define "good" - underlying assumption on how
A good citizen is one who contributes to the good of the nation and the society.
They may disagree with some policy but contribute to others
Context of the country - Multi-racial and religious - laws needed to make sensitive remarks
Example - wearing a mask does not mean law abiding but protect people we love
A good citizen must be a good person and have good values and sound characters
Accountability to the global world and not just in Sg
Students demonstrate good citizenship values and behaviours like moral, civic etc.

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1. Students do not walk the talk. Value action gap.
2. Knowledge of value is still important. Value is important as guiding principle in leading their life.
3. Equip, persuade or motivate students to make the right decision and act based on the good values.
4. Values are subjective depending on what is important to the student.

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Good character not = to Good person.
What is good to one may not be good to another. What is the definition of a good person?
Good character are guided by good values but a good person may not.
Can a good person make mistakes? Can a bad person do good thing?
A person can be perceive as good or bad based on one incident while good character is determined by consistent good moral decision instead of one off event.

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(Schooling experience is too limited to help students develop a sense of purpose in life.)

We disagree.
- School experience is not just confined to the classrooms lessons and theories.
There are also camps, learning journeys, physical lessons, VIA. Variety of school experiences for the students.
- some students do not have the exposure to many aspects of life, especially those from the underprivileged families. Therefore, the school can give them opportunities in the lacking areas and guide them to as many experiences as they can.

However.....we also agree to a certain extent:

- Schooling is just a small portion of life for the students and there are some life skills that cannot be gained in school. They can gain it from part-time work, voluntary work, dealing with customers, etc.
- Not all students have the same experiences. ie. Councillors have more opportunities to be involved in more things and gain more skills, versus the introverts who are not confident enough to open up. Not a level-playing field for all.
_ students need to move out to society and be out there so that they will be able to experience life and hardships (ie. visit orphanage) so that they know their purpose in life.
- Every student is different and their needs are different. No one size fits all. There might be an emphasis on academic pursuits and maybe less is more.

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P9- The schooling experience is too limited to help students develop sense of purpose in life.

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P9- The schooling experience is too limited to help students develop sense of purpose in life.

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Generally limited.
Most of them still unaware of what to do in life in terms of work or future.
Sense of rootedness to Singapore and identity not present.
Do not see the purpose in academic life
Re-evaluate values in life which may be different among different family.
Provide space to reflect on what has been shared to their own life and what is relevant.
Personal touch is no longer there to help inspire students, limited in helping them explore more areas and contribute more to society.
Let students have white space to talk and explore their interests among themselves.
Eg. Gear up students exposed to more options. Sec 1s going through coding and other hands on experience. Give students the freedom to choose more electives.

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Good character is being a good person. But may not be necessarily true. E.g. a robber steals but spare the lives of victims. Is this robber considered good character person? In the eyes of the law, he/she may be prosecuted for actions. If a good person does good deeds but there is a hidden agenda behind his actions, Is this considered a good person? Therefore, a person's character is driven by their inner values. It may change overtime and modified or adapted to their current values at that time. A person's good character traits define who they are as a person and highly influenced the choices they make.

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Good Citizens should be loyal, law-abiding, and obedient.

- Obedient maybe too strong for students. Students should not follow blindly. They are to think and able to analyze.
- Citizenship : Obedience or compliant?
- Law abiding: Finding ways to try understand the new laws being legislated.
- Laws are there to protect the citizens. Do we define ourselves as a good citizen to our country, or to our community or to our political party.
- Are we considered not loyal to the country if we are only disobedient in one aspect.

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Students should be able to practice good values and adopt them as part of behaviours inside and outside of school. That’s the hope when teachers emphasise values.

A person with strong SEC can be conmen/women but with
strong values, students will be anchored enough to use their skills and competencies for the right purposes. Eg. Despite having the means to do such things, with the right values they will know to not do it.

With the social media, students tend to lean towards western culture and values but might have issues in living within a conservative Asian culture.

We should be rooted on basic values such as respect, empathy and kindness. If students have these basic values it will impact their whole life with a positive attitude and behaviour.

Students these days are lacking basic manners towards peers and teachers which is a troubling observation.

Practising values is about becoming a good person but there are many things for students to consider as they develop.

knowing good values is not sufficient, practicing it is a different matter altogether. Practicing values also depends on where you are and it differs from place to place.

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Subjects taught provide very limited experience in life.

Purpose differs from one person to another.

We are giving them a head start on the direction that they want to take up in the next phase of their life. Too early to talk about the grand purpose in life. At this age, students are still trying to understand their interest. There is no specific age where we can define the main purpose of life as we may still have mid-life crisis and still pondering on what we want in life.

Students will have more exposure compared to previous years, through ECG lessons etc

Students will be able to at least able to work on what they want to achieve in the next 5 years in their life.

School is a sheltered environment where students will have this feeling of purpose to attend school  and have a sense of grounding. Especially for the underprivilege students. School is a place where they are allowed to make mistakes and learn from them to become a better person.

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CCE lessons now allow more room for discussions. Students have more time and space to voice out their thoughts and this allows teachers to seize teachable moments.

However, for some, consequences play a big role in correcting their behaviour. Students usually know what is right and what is wrong but they still go ahead to commit the crime because they have tried and gotten away with light consequences.

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The group uses an example of person impersonating a policeman to con people:  The con man would have a better chance of succeeding if he/she has good social emotional attributes like self-awareness, self management, RDM, social awareness and relationship skills.   However some of the members also stated that its a sweeping statement across and those with good SEC, can do good too as long as one have a good and strong moral standards and this is what we need to educate our students to do the right thing.

Societal expectation and other stress factors may make it easier for people to be con.

Social emotional competency allows us to function well in different environment.