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I agree with Julia's point about how the internet impacts one’s sleep cycle because I experience it myself. I already have trouble sleeping as it is, and have a tendency to wake up a couple times a night. I may grab my phone to check the time, but then I’ll see a notification I had missed and I’ll look at it or reply to some texts and suddenly before I know it I’ve been up for about a half hour or hour. It definitely affects my sleep cycle and an unstable sleep cycle definitely affects my mood and energy.

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I disagree with Celie’s point that the availability of information causes people to lose the ability to deep read. Rather, I think that it may be the distraction of the internet that causes skimming. I know for me personally skimming is cause by more of a time constraint, but I think distraction also plays a role in most people’s skimming. Webpages with articles tend to be loaded with either advertisements or links to more articles. There may be almost a sense of urgency to grab the information you were looking for in one article in order to click on the next, trying to entertain your shortened attention span. This tends to lead to a lot of information crammed into your short term memory, in which the magic number is seven plus or minus two. If you were to immerse yourself into an entire rabbit hole of clicking on new articles, you’re sure to lose some of the information you may have skimmed.

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Akhee mentioned that Katrina stated at some point that it would be more beneficial to memorize information instead of relying on the internet for it too heavily. I agree that this seems like a good solution, but the best connection I can make is that making the switch to memorizing now would almost be like America having to learn the metric system. The whole world uses the metric system, and it’d be more beneficial for scientific study, however adults who were raised learning the customary system would have an extremely difficult time converting. For better or for worse, (maybe worse), I believe we already rely too much on the internet to start memorizing our information now. Perhaps there could be hope for rising generations, but as my younger sister in middle school has a tablet she was given just for school, I doubt that that may happen.

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Liam makes a point in a post about how society should adapt to the internet instead of fearing it and that society should learn to address the problems that occur. While I agree we should not fear the internet I believe his idea to adapt to the issues of the internet is a bit too idealistic. I’m going to provide an example that may seem random, but I feel as though it connects. While I was at Princeton Model Congress I was in the Science and Technology Committee and a bill that was introduced was one to ban all sex offenders and sexual predators from using social media. Everyone agreed with the sentiment of this bill, however the more we debated over it the more we began to realize that it may just not be feasible with the technology we have right now. In order to ban sex offenders all social media companies would require a list of the sex offenders and be expected to have something in their sign up page to prevent these people from being able to create accounts. But an issue with that is that people could always lie or hack. Another issue we found was that there’s no such program that currently exists that would be able to monitor and suspend chats that contain sexual harassment in private forums or mediums such as Snapchat. This all ties into the my point that the internet may not be such an easy thing to adapt to or solve problems for.

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Leon made a quick point in an early post saying that skimming was a more favorable option as it is less time consuming. As a student with too much work and too little time, I agree that sometimes skimming a text for key information in order to finish my homework or prepare for class is usually the way to go. However, I can also guarantee that the information I skimmed rarely stays with me. Maybe I’ll be able to know the concept for a day or two, but if the concept was on a cumulative exam down the road, I’d surely flunk that exam. Sometimes concepts may not always go in with deep and comprehensive reading, but you’re chances of remembering and understanding the concept is much higher.

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Replying to Mrs. Dursa’s question on whether the internet fosters more negativity than goodwill, my stance on this is that there can not be good without the bad. Whether or not there may be more negativity on the internet doesn’t cancel out the good things. The internet has a way of connecting people together who share similar and very specific interests. Are you a fan of Harry Potter and Star Trek crossover alternate universes? Well then there’s most likely a group of people just like you with a fan page where you can connect with them, although you may have otherwise felt isolated about your interests if you hadn’t had made that connection. Yes, the dark web is a whole world connecting people through probably immoral and illegal things, but the internet still has a lot more innocent usages that people can benefit from, even if its something that seems as silly as meeting some new nerd friends.

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Katrina mentioned in an earlier post about how she believes the internet hinders critical thinking and creativity because of the way our brain is being rewired, and that parts of the brain aren’t being exercised enough because we rely on the internet too much for easy access to information. I agree that this may apply to most people, however I’d like to present the point that the internet may actually be fostering a new type of critical thinking for those in computer science. While this may be a slim percent of people, these people use the internet to code and design their own websites, which I personally find to be an impressive form of critical thinking and creativity because quite frankly, to me, computers just seem like magic boxes. I do overall agree with Katrina, it’s just this topic in general sparked this example in my head.

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Is society better today becauseof the internet? I truly do not know. There's no way for me to see how society would be today without it. Of course you can look back to before the internet but still, even without the internet society would still be different than it was. Society pre-the internet is too far behind to be able to tell what hypothetically would've happened.

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I have lots of thoughts on Isabella's statement that the internet fosters negativity. While it does do that, negativity is everywhere. It's ludicrous to make a sweeping statement that the internet is the only area that fosters negativity, or even that it's more negative than the news or even real life. The internet gives people a place to be negative with no real facts to back it up, it gives people a place to say whatever they want because there's no real confrontation. But real life has its fair share of negativity too. As Rebecca said,  there has been negativity present in every generation. The internet gives people an easy place to put their negativity, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen offline too.

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Carr has proved through The Shallows that he is the KING of generalizations. He rarely brings up the opposing side and he rarely takes into account various types of people. He has tunnel vision on the people he knows and associates with, or even just views. But one of my main problems with The Shallows is Carr's lack of representation. Those in low socio-economic areas aren't even relevant to him, their lives aren't relevant to him, so why would include them in his book? As I read this, there was always something in the back of my mind hinting that he only really ventures into the Middle Class Straight White Guy mindset. And due to Elijah's statement on generalizations, I now realize that.

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I agree with Julia's response to Matt regarding the blue light emitted from phones and computers. On both my phone and laptop I have extensions that disable the blue light and from personal experience I can say that it helps me more regularly sleep. As I wasn't present for Matt's statement I don't know what he thought the biggest aspect of the internet is but, when blue light is taken out of the equation, obviously something else is the biggest impact of the internet.

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Elijah and Leon mentioned how the efficiency of compiling information from the internet has improved greatly over time, and I agree. As new technology and new means are still discovered, the quality and quantity of the information available to us on the internet increases. Leon also said "we humans and this generation in particular are simply too lazy to deep read", but I don't think it's that simple. It's not laziness that causes the losing ability to deep read, it's the internet itself. Because things are so readily available, deep reading isn't "necessary" to some people.

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In response to Rebecca and Isabella, I agree yet also disagree with this. There are some things I've memorized that I definitely didn't go out of my way to memorize. I know the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. I'm not furthering myself in a way where I need, or even want to know that. It's just stuck in my head. But I also understand the other side of this. For some things I do go out of my way to memorize them. I believe that memorization isn't always unwilling but it's also not always compulsory.

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I agree with Rebecca the internet is a great platform for creativeity i also agree with Elyssa

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i agree with elyssa because the internet provides instant additional sources

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I agree with that the internet hinders thinking due to us starring at a page for hours and not accomplishing anything with the book your reading.

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I agree with Kendall Deep reading is important because it helps us memorize and annotate the things we want to get into deeper detail

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i disagree with aidan that we memorize things just for test and quizzes because i shockingly still remember some of the words we learned a couple weeks ago

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i agree with rebecca because sometimes the internet helps us become creative

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Katrina wants us to memorize so that we won't be as dependent on the internet as much.

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I think that schools should keep trying to stigmatize the internet

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Katrina really hates the internet. I'm sorry about the hippocampus but jeez.

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I agree with Rebecca because memorization is something we don't do unwillingly, we just do it. I feel we choose what we want to memorize. I choose to memorize my vocab words for the week coming up, I choose not to memorize all of them as one. I will do that when the time comes but not right now because it's not a priority! If we had to memorize every vocab word from the first six, seven, or eight we first got to now, then I would. Since we don't though, I choose not to.

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i disagree with katrina i feel as though thats more so a personal opinion because some people can actually really learn from that i think no on realizes EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT everyone wont learn the same. if you can memorize it in a book you can memorize it on the internet

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i agree with alyssa because i personally do it myself how i will read a book and think that i am fully reading and just stare at it and then have to fully read it over because i was just dazed in my own world

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The Internet is both good and bad for our society. Good for us to experience the internet as a source for research and getting to know people. Bad for us to rely when we really don't need too and when we don't remember things we use to internet for our brain.

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Elijah states that our efficiency of gaining information from the internet has improved significantly. I agree. We humans and this generation in particular are simply too lazy to deep read to get the information we need. Being able to find the information we need in a matter of seconds is a lot more convenient and preferable.

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books make it feel like common knowledge to you where internet feels like random fact compiled in your head.

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i disagree with kendall i think everyone is just not the same and some maybe can really obtain information better through the internet

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I really like how Aiden brought in psychology into her argument

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i think that it is different between generations because for older people it is more natural to read where for us it is a lot more natural for us to use technology.

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Matt has the point that is very similar to Isabella's point.  I really wish I could interject into the conversation right now.  I do not think the number of readers and nonreaders has become as extreme in the time period as the Mrs. Dursa believes.  There have ALWAYS been people who love reading and people who don't enjoy reading.  People were not always readers, despite the lack of access to internet in the past.  This, to me, is one of the most natural things.  The internet did not affect this aspect to me, rather it allowed non-readers to find their own source of entertainment and information in the internet.

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I agree with Rebecca that we used books as our technology

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I agree with Rebecca that we used books as our technology

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and now in today's society we use the internet for everything such as school, work, and ordering things on websites to get what we want to know or get from the internet.

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I agree with Liam that memorization can still be necessary on the internet because the use of the internet is supposed to make it easier for you to access information that you can memorize. I think memorization is always important, and personally I believe that neither the internet or books lessen the importance of memorization.

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i agree on the statement of how books aren't used anymore , there's no age limit of technology , middle schools today are getting laptops and getting answers from there instead of "heads in the book"

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technology comes in many forms and the internet is just our technology vs. back then technology which was books

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Matt talked about a point about differences in generations because he said that this is a problem with different generations this is an interesting point because i don't really agree or disagree. Becasue the other day my dad explained that i can't study with music in my ears since it a 'distraction'. though that is not true just because my dad was able to get to where he is without earbuds in his ears while doing his studying doesn't men it is impossible for mean it is impossible for us. to a degree i believe this is a conversation of generations

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That's another good point made by Abash that I also mentioned when I was in the inner circle. Everyone is different! No one in this class is like me and I am not like anyone else. That is okay though!! Why do we always feel the need to make everyone the same all the time. Not everyone like painting or running or deep reading with an actual book, but some people like singing or golf, and or reading on the internet! What is the problem with that?

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to be fair about this deep reading ability i believe this is also may be a question on how you are raised. i was raised by a mother who always took me to the library when i was younger. she read to me all the time . even when i grew up i was the one who taught her how to read. i have grown up reading and always have been but the stament that the internet changes the way we think may not be true because mabye we grew up that way. another example is that my 14 month old cousin has already been exposed to the internet his mom gives him her phone to watch videos and play games just to stop him from crying. i can tell you that the kid may grow up rarely reading a book but always relying on a book instead of books

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I disagree with Matt. I have always thought that the most impact aspect of the internet on myself is my sleep cycle. Phone and computer screens give off blue light, which suppresses our secretion of melatonin and makes us more awake.  When I have my phone screen two inches from my face, I am suddenly not tired at all.  As a result my circadian rhythm is often seriously thrown off.

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as katrina said i also get easily distracted but i kinda thinks it helps me because me knowing im going to be distracted its kinda like ok stay focus and it helps me to be like ok im going to get this done but thats just my opinion

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I agree with Matt that technology has a hold on us and we are addicted to our technology due to our society is addicted to their phones. We see this in our schools as kids are on their phones 24/7.

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i disagree with kendall because yes carr made some points where a backed it up with researchers and data but its mostly relates back to his claim and mostly attacks our generation...

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I feel the same way as Eli! Since this book doesn't relate to our generation it is difficult to relate to Carr no matter how hard he's trying to prove his point.

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I agree with Elyssa, the internet has brought a lot of advancements to society. The cons of the internet are often being brought up, but if you were to mention how much the internet or technology has helped us advance the list would be quite extensive.

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I agree with  Ny' Asia because we all have our own way of leaning and we just find the one that best suits of way of learning.

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i agree that the shallows was more so carr opinion but yes he made many valid points and his generalizations as kendall said were very good and he did a great job with backing it up

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i like how eli brought up the fact that he didnt like the book cause it didnt have to do with him. to me i beleive that this whole idea that computers will take over like in wall-E where we are all fat and just sitting in floating computer devices watching media is completely false because we are entirely too obsessed with ourselves as humans to let ourselves be consumed by computers in that way.

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I love to read and always have but to be fair unlike many of you i have never have had a phone. someone might say that because i have never had a phone i don't have the exposure that would lead to someone else who doesn't have to not do as much reading. But to be fair even though i haven't had as much exposure as everyone else i still do stop every once in a while. though to read an article online just like Kendall says you can read online.

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i agree with aidan because i feel like everyone has there own way of learning some may like to deep read some may not. we cant really punish or criticize how someone learns or anything

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I agree with Eli that deep reading is still applicable on the internet through articles. Deep reading may have changed but it is still possible to deeply think and interpret through the internet.  Is the internet really that different from books? Does the electricity and quick response time really have such a different affect on the brain than books.
Kendall touches on this point saying the classifications become blurred. Katrina points out the distractions that result in attempted deep reading on the internet.

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Eli mentions that the internet can allow you to deep read too. I agree with his perspective on this because many people do read the full article and pick it apart or annotate it. The internet gives you many options, so if you want to skim the reading then you can, but if you want to fully read it then you can also do that. The internet does not just take that option away from you.

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i agree with Rebecca because books are becoming a least reliable source mostly on school environment

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i agree with Rebecca that since the main way we do deep reading is in
a forced manor is really  killing the momentum of deep reading

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I also agree with Aiden and Kendall because everyone does learn in their own way. Some people memorize information through repetition versus others who learn through visuals. Now this could affect deep reading skills because our society is becoming more visual due to technology.

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Kendall says that learning is a personal thing and it's how we prefer to learn. Elijah makes the assumption that Carr made a lot of generalizations that relate to him and not to others. Matt says that the internet affects the brain in different ways but our generation, we've adapted to the internet.

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i agree with aiden

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I agree that society is better

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I disagree with Isabella that the internet fosters negativity. There has always been negativity present in every single generation and although the internet may provide a platform for negativity, there have been platforms to do so before

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I agree with Isabella that the internet fosters negativity. The internet is an easy way to put your opinion out there without actual human contact, where people are able to hide behind screens.

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I agree with julia because her point on saying that we as people and young teens were forced on into the situation were this technology and the internet is common place and that being beaten up in a way or so in the book isnt the best way to handle the situation because the generation before us created things this way for us to use but now that we use it we are being shunned by the people who made it

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Isabella brings up a great argument, along with Julia that Carr shouldn't attackpeople who chose to use the Internet becuase it doesn't affect him. We do need to move on as Mokeira mentions. Just because something exists does not mean you have to use it, be apart of it, etc.

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Isabella is saying that we should be able to have our own opinions about the internet and use it at our own discretion. I completely agree with her. I think that if someone wants to use GPS, go ahead. If they want to use a map, go ahead. I don't think we should necessarily judge each other on how much we use the internet. I only think that there may be a point of no return when we find ourselves unable to do anything without technology.

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Carr says in Pg 9, that "The net has become essential to their work,school, or social lives, and often to all three". This helps prove Isabella's argument, that Technology was made to help people through troubles they could have with suing maps, cooking, etc... It shows that the internet is essential to finding quick solutions

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I think that Julia brings up a very intelligent, thoughtful point. People need to simply not argue over whether the internet is good or bad but need to learn how we can adapt our behavior to check ourselves and maintain our morality. For example, the internet can diminish deep reading, but as people in society, we need to learn how to ignore distractions and still be able to sit down and intensely read a book. The internet should not completely ruin our intellect and our abilities to remember information and deep read. If this does begin to happen to us, then we must realize that we need to check ourselves and distance ourselves from the web for a bit, because not all information needs to be acquired from the web.

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I do agree that the changes we see in society as a result of the internet is the creation of human beings and it is simply the way society is progressing. With this I also believe that instead of attacking and fearing the way society is progressing with the internet, we should learn how to adapt and live with it and how to address any problems that occur.

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Julia says that once a new form of technologies develop, old methods do not die away. She uses an analogy of walking once cars were discovered. I agree with her because deep reading can be used more as a hobby or interest rather than a primary source for information

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Julia is correct that we need to be discussing how to adapt to technological advances instead of debating whether or not it is right or moral. The example she brought up about cars and deep reading is a good point, and that people who want to remain traditional will be able to find ways to do so. I also agree that people attack the generation that uses technology. It is not our fault and it is beginning to become the way that society works and our generation works just like other generations were reliant on other things

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I agree with Mokiera that the Internet is not becoming more reliable. People can post anything on the Internet without having its facts checked. Inaccurate information is posted; people can post whatever they think instantaneously without knowing the full truth of the event. For example, some people make think that something is "fake news" so it is uploaded to the internet in this way, but it may actually be the truth.

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I agree with Mokiera that the internet is not becoming more reliable with time. People are not fact-checking things that people post on the internet. This creates an uncertainty present in research conducted on the internet.

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The internet is only truly reliable if you know how to use it. Certain websites are surely reliable containing relevant facts and statistics. On the other hand, really anyone can post on the internet possibly creating conflicting factual points. Fiona just mentioned a term for what I tried to describe, circular reporting, which is another reason the internet is flawed.

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I disagree with the"reliability" of the internet. Not everything on the internet is reliable. You need to be able to identify what is and isn't reliable, as well as whether that source is recent, biased, e.t.c. On another note, I find the comment on the recipe's and deep reading as very inaccurate to the reality of deep reading. I have never deep read my cook book. I just look for a recipe and I'm done. So, isn't that the same as googling a recipe and then using the first result?

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I think that the internet is becoming less reliable because of ads. As time has gone on, the number of ads on each website has increased by around 60%.
When people start to sponsor webpages, especially research sites, there becomes a lo of bias. The websites will favor the views of the companies giving them money. This is part of the corruption in our system. Using money to sway the ideas of individuals. I think that this makes the internet much less reliable.

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There are so many opinions towards this topic but overall I feel as though people won't stop using the Internet no matter how many times they hear how it  is effecting us so greatly. Odds are half the people in this room will check Instagram,Twitter, Snapchat, and others minutes after this debate.

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I agree with Isabella that the internet definitely has a larger and increasing presence in every persons' life and has obvious benefits that books do not. I also agree with Ahkee though, that it is not always the best option for retaining knowledge because of unreliable information

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Molly has a good point where it could be peoples personal preference where you could hate research books and rather go online and find it then when shes reading a story and she actually reads the whole book

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Leon says that it is easier to retain short facts from the internet then it is to get from deep reading, This may be true, but does making it easier to retain information quickly, necessarily mean we are getting a better learning experience? I believe that if we get the information on our own from a long reading we are also able to build our own opinions as well as the information. Its harder to formulate original ideas when you are given facts rather than finding them.

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I agree, we were born into technology and we were given this resource but now we are being attacked because we use it more than people want us to. It isn't fair to put limits on our technology when we were given it and told to use it. Instead of taking the time to pick out the issues with technology and the internet, we should be learning better ways to use it and make it better for society.

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Although people are relying more on the internet as it improves, I believe that there are many aspects of the internet that aren't reliable. Examples of this may be wikipedia and other information sources that are able to be edited by the public.

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I also like reading actual books. Though I do look up facts, I also enjoy reading research books(The Shallows is an exception). So, I believe that this preference simply is variant to each person. I believe that these people will keep paper books alive, even in the digital age.

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I hear what Molly is saying. But I don't think all elderly people prefer a book over a nook. It really depends on each individuals preferences. My grandparents, for example, prefer to read on their kindles.

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I agree with Molly that some people will still choose a traditional book over technology because it allows for a different reading experience and a deeper understanding

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I disagree with Isabella. I don't think that we can accurately acquire information by just reading information quickly on a screen. Like Fiona says, we would only remember it for only a day or a moment after we read it. When we deep read, we remember it for a long period of time and become more involved in what we are reading. People are becoming so accustomed to skimming; "the more they use the Web, the more they have to fight to stay focused on long pieces of writing [...] Even a blog post of more than three or four paragraphs is too much to absorb" (Carr 7). Deep reading has become a struggle for many and this will later affect society as people will not have as many memories in their minds or be able to focus as well. Their minds are scattered and only look for the quickest answers; therefore, it is diminishing our intellect, our attention spans, and the ability to appreciate the entire work.

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I agree with Isabella becuase deep reading isn't necessarily needed when you can easily find summaries, and remember it. However, Fiona makes a strong claim towards how deep reading helps you attain information over longer periods of time.

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I agree with the statement that deep reading depends on the person. A person who doesn't care about deep reading isn't going to waste their time doing it, and a person who does like to read deeply will read deeply. However, I believe that those who deep read gain more information from their reading than those who skim, as skimming only relates to short-term memory, while deep reading enacts the long-term memory.

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Fiona is correct in saying that the internet does cause our reading to not retain considering when you read summaries you cant hold on to the information.

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Isabella believes that we can get the same information from a summary of shallows on the internet then we can from the book. Although this might be true and you get information , you don't get the same artistic experience or enjoyment out of it. Fiona elaborates on this more by saying we retain more information when we read from a book, which i agree with based on prior experience.

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I agree with Tyleshia, to me it depends on the person whether the value of the internet outweighs deep reading. I strongly agree with Molly, that everyone has their own individual values. Deep reading can entertain a more valuable use of time, because not everything on the internet can be verified, as Fiona said.

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I disagree with what Tyleshia is saying because I believe that listening to the auditory version of a book can still be considered deep reading. Different people have different ways of absorbing information some people who prefer to read a book are visual learners while those who may listen are audible learners. So I would argue that books on cd or on the internet are an amazing invention as they allow multiple learning types to enjoy the same book.

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Carr mentions. "We try to be very data driven, and quanitify evrything". People are using the INternet to expand their education, so i don't believe it makes you less moral.

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Fiona is correct that there is two sided with being behind a screen and hidden where it could fuel negativity but also the hidden aspect could give more people confidence and make them come out there shell

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Carr discusses the Flynn effect on page 144. The flynn effect is the jump in IQ scores since WWII. I do not believe that the internet causes people to act immorally because with the advancing technology and presence of the internet in our lives, our brains are still retaining more and more information every year

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i agree with fiona because i do find myself like doing stuff i wouldnt do in person and its due to the fact im behind a screen

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Mokeira believes since the internet can be anonymous it shows someoens true colors which shows their morals

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Leon disagrees that the internet causes people to be less moral. Fiona agrees! I disagree; I think that the internet causes people to be less moral. As Carr says, "What makes us most human, Weizanbaum had come to believe, what is least computable about us-- the connections between our mind and our body, the experiences that shape our memory and our thinking, our capacity for emotion and empathy. The great danger we face as we become more intimately involved with our computers-- as we come to experience more of our lives through the disembodied symbols flickering across our screens is that we'll begin to lose our humanness, to sacrifice the very qualities that separate us from machine (Carr 207). As we live our lives on the Internet, we lose our abilities to interpret and react to others' emotions as interactions and emotional exchanges become minimal. When we do interact with others, we do not know what is right to say and do. Also, online, we are so invested with ourselves and competition with others on social media and in videogames that we lose our sense of morality in how to treat others.