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Language is used often Orwellian-Double Speech?

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Language is used often Orwellian-Double Speech?

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Studying Discourse Analysis one learns many things. The words used by an individual gives clues to whom they may have spoken, or who is influencing their thoughts and opinions. Of course the attitudes to accent are rarely a target for official opinion, yet often are a great influence of how a person is seen. An educated person does not have a local accent-or so it seems.
The word "capacity" is also used in many contexts. It is often combined with or a vague reference to "the elderly". The meaning is also often very clear, intelligence, inability to understand terms be they technical or otherwise.

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I do not like to hear or see 'pensioner discount' in shops or services. Although the offer is usually well accepted the words are belittling. Also when someone presumes that you do not know or understand what they are saying, as though when you reach a certain age you lose the ability to communicate and have interesting and topical conversations.

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I do not like to hear or see 'pensioner discount' in shops or services. Although the offer is usually well accepted the words are belittling. Also when someone presumes that you do not know or understand what they are saying, as though when you reach a certain age you lose the ability to communicate and have interesting and topical conversations.

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Why on afternoon TV are all the ads for over 50 and funeral plans placed. It looks like anyone over 50is expected to sit at home and contemplate their funeral.

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Why on afternoon TV are all the ads for over 50 and funeral plans placed. It looks like anyone over 50is expected to sit at home and contemplate their funeral.

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Clothes adverts for older people which are not too short.

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Clothes adverts for older people which are not too short.

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Comedian Greg Davies worked into his act that his mother needing to go for an "old lady wee" in the night. It would have been a perfectly good joke without the need to say "old lady wee". He could have just said wee and the joke would have been just as funny.

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Comedian Greg Davies worked into his act that his mother needing to go for an "old lady wee" in the night. It would have been a perfectly good joke without the need to say "old lady wee". He could have just said wee and the joke would have been just as funny.

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There's a good article here with a lovely stat at the end about the number of people that turn 60 every day - obviously wound need fact checking! https://www.silvergroup.asia/2014/08/20/how-to-really-piss-off-older-people-with-bad-advertising/

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You are "elderly" if you have a buss pass - you are "old" if you have a free TV licence :)

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You are "elderly" if you have a buss pass - you are "old" if you have a free TV licence :)

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"Retired" - now there is a magic phrase - lol - "retired" from what.... living

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Wot about the latest fad of Gender Neutral etc?

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I can't remember the advert( cos I am old ) but I think you mean "shreddies - lol.

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I can't remember the advert( cos I am old ) but I think you mean "shreddies - lol.

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mmm - why should I spend hundreds of thousands of pounds for a new home which isn't exactly what I want?

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mmm - why should I spend hundreds of thousands of pounds for a new home which isn't exactly what I want?

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I expect people who address me for the first time, of any age and who do not know me, not to use my christian name. I understand that it is common among younger people and by those trying to impress or sell something, to generate a friendly familiarity, but my obvious age should be respected and refer to me as Mr. -

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The assumption that 'older' people have some impairment by the communicator. Communicators raise their voice or use simplistic terms to enhance understanding, both of which are not only unnecessary but demeaning.

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agga

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National building regulations should insist that all new houses are built to lifetime home standards.  If that were the case, doorways would all be wide enough for a wheelchair; electrical sockets would be at a height reachable without having to bend down; a lift could be inserted without major disruption; and other adaptations could easily be made, also without major disruption.

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National building regulations should insist that all new houses are built to lifetime home standards.  If that were the case, doorways would all be wide enough for a wheelchair; electrical sockets would be at a height reachable without having to bend down; a lift could be inserted without major disruption; and other adaptations could easily be made, also without major disruption.

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National building regulations should insist that all new houses are built to lifetime homes standards.  

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National building regulations should insist that all new houses are built to lifetime homes standards.  

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Designers like their productions to be visually impressive.  But what some seem to forget is that leaflets, magazines, etc. contain information and that that information needs to be intelligible.  And the information cannot be intelligible if it is illegible: print too small (less than pitch 14), fancy (not sans serif, e.g.), print on a poorly contrastive background (the most legible is probably black print on a yellow background).

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Designers like their productions to be visually impressive.  But what some seem to forget is that leaflets, magazines, etc. contain information and that that information needs to be intelligible.  And the information cannot be intelligible if it is illegible: print too small (less than pitch 14), fancy (not sans serif, e.g.), print on a poorly contrastive background (the most legible is probably black print on a yellow background).

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What about that stupid advertisement for cereal, where grey haired grannies are knitting, is it sheddies, how patronising. Of course the so called grannies are being paid to feature in this rubbish.

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The Elders Council of Newcastle has a clear policy on the term for older people: "older people".  "retired" has the connotation that we are inactive; but many people, once they have left their paid job, then go on to lead a very active life.  Another term, which central government seems to favour, is "economically inactive", which is of course not at all correctly descriptive of older people in general: older people contribute a great deal to the economy, both in cash and kind.  "elderly" has the connotation that the person is beyond it/over the hill/feeble and should therefore not be used as a general term for older people.       

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The Elders Council of Newcastle has a clear policy on the term for older people: "older people".  "retired" has the connotation that we are inactive; but many people, once they have left their paid job, then go on to lead a very active life.  Another term, which central government seems to favour, is "economically inactive", which is of course not at all correctly descriptive of older people in general: older people contribute a great deal to the economy, both in cash and kind.  "elderly" has the connotation that the person is beyond it/over the hill/feeble and should therefore not be used as a general term for older people.       

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which shows woman putting teapot on tray with a doily. A crochet doily would be something my grandmother would have used. Is the advert trying to sell insurance or saying "you're over 50 use a doily old girl"?

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I think the word retired is sometimes used to mean "no longer of any value". I hate the idea we're only valued because of the work we do or have done in the past. We need better ways to refer to people in their 60's and more.

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I think the word retired is sometimes used to mean "no longer of any value". I hate the idea we're only valued because of the work we do or have done in the past. We need better ways to refer to people in their 60's and more.

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Older people have opinions and have the ability to comment on events and policies be it online or in person. Grey hair does not mean one sits and watches TV all day. There is too much stereotyping of all genders into the assumed way of life of the mainstream older person seen in much of the media.
People are sometimes not treat as individuals in this our so called individualistic society. Unfortunately the algorithm as much to answer for since it is used in every aspect of life to fit the individual into a group with a set pattern of looks, abilities, lifestyle.

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I don't have three hands. Sometimes I wonder who uses some products for example those with a small battery. To replace such a battery I need one hand to hold the thing, one to hold the battery and then another one to move a small part out of the way so I can get the battery into its space. 

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I don't have three hands. Sometimes I wonder who uses some products for example those with a small battery. To replace such a battery I need one hand to hold the thing, one to hold the battery and then another one to move a small part out of the way so I can get the battery into its space. 

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The assumption that older people can't use technology. All the retired people I know use computers and the internet regularly; many also use social media.

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The assumption that older people can't use technology. All the retired people I know use computers and the internet regularly; many also use social media.

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Many individuals tend to be encouraged to speak to older people in a childlike manner which is degrading for both individuals. It indicates disrespect and a stereotypical view of people over 60 years old. This could be the result of a so call "pop" culture for which the neo liberal economy encourages division into groups to maintain  market forces. Ageism is not really acknowledged as a hate crime

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I object to people of 60 - or even 70 - being referred to as 'elderly'. I know people in their 80s who are busy running community organisations. In my village there are many people who are retired but very few who are not active. They do not fit the 'elderly' stereotype.

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I object to people of 60 - or even 70 - being referred to as 'elderly'. I know people in their 80s who are busy running community organisations. In my village there are many people who are retired but very few who are not active. They do not fit the 'elderly' stereotype.

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Very small print, or the use of colours that make print difficult to read demonstrate bad practice and poor design for all age groups, but especially older people.

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Very small print, or the use of colours that make print difficult to read demonstrate bad practice and poor design for all age groups, but especially older people.

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Good advertising isn't ageist. Just because a person is older it doesn't mean that they want to dress frumpily, can't use technology and so on.

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Good advertising isn't ageist. Just because a person is older it doesn't mean that they want to dress frumpily, can't use technology and so on.

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I'm annoyed by leaflets included with catalogues etc. that assume that everyone who is over 60 requires rising chairs, stairlifts, walk-in showers, hearing aids and the like. Of course, some people do - it's the assumption that I object to.

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I'm annoyed by leaflets included with catalogues etc. that assume that everyone who is over 60 requires rising chairs, stairlifts, walk-in showers, hearing aids and the like. Of course, some people do - it's the assumption that I object to.

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This board is an invitation to share examples of positive and negative ageing stereotypes. They will be incorporated into training material for the National Innovation Centre for Ageing, Newcastle University.

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This board is an invitation to share examples of positive and negative ageing stereotypes. They will be incorporated into training material for the National Innovation Centre for Ageing, Newcastle University.

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Digital inclusion strategies aimed at older people

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How to use - click on the 'add' button underneath the columns >> to share examples of ageing stereotypes you have come across, click on the icons at the bottom of the box you have created. You can add an attachment, a photo, video or audio file from your phone or PC, or copy and paste something from the web using the web link. 

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How to use - click on the 'add' button underneath the columns >> to share examples of ageing stereotypes you have come across, click on the icons at the bottom of the box you have created. You can add an attachment, a photo, video or audio file from your phone or PC, or copy and paste something from the web using the web link. 

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You can write your opinion or experience above your post/image like this, once you've added your example. Please state whether the example you are using is negative or positive, in your view.