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Schlack: (paragraph 4)

High school seniors who can't declare they are college bound are made feel like failures

Horn and Moesta: (paragraph 6)

´´Students who attend college for extrinsic reasons suffer poor outcomes. According to research 74 percent of those who attend college to do what was expected of them´´ dropped out or transferred.´´

Video: (Time 0.42)

´´I have done all this because I believe formal education is important part of this belief came from seeing charts like this presenting a correlation between higher degrees and higher income showing on average that a person with a college degree earns far more money than the average person without a high school diploma´´

My general thoughts about these ideas  as a whole are that I believe everyone has a different opinion on whether college is the right decision for a student or not. Some people may decide teaching students and encouraging them to go to college is a good idea, others may encourage the students to follow their interests.

I think these messages are right on point because I feel like these students should get taught both sides of the story they should be taught about college but they should also be taught about other posibilities if they arent so sure about college.

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- Schlack paragraph 14 states " They should stand up and be clear that college is not the only path to success in life.

- Fleming video , Education that received at a cost that is more then they can afford

- Horn paragraph 7 , students who attend college for extrinsic reasons sufer poor outcomes

- My opinion over these texts is that students on't have to go to college to be successful. There are many other ways they could be at the top. College is just a other stepping stone students that want to take it to have a better job and have more experience on the job that they want to get at to accomplish in life.

- Personally I believe that Students should have there own mindsets and ideas rather then being influenced to go to college if they don't want to . College is not for everyone to go to its a choice in your life

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- Schlack accentuates,"They should stand up and be clear that college is not the only path to success in life"(Shlack, P.14).

- The video explains how college is not for everyone and there is over 60% of workers,working without a college education. (Fleming,Video)

- Horn add on,"According to our research,74 percent of those who attended college to 'do what was expected of them' dropped out or transferred." (Horn, p.g 13).

-My general perception about these messages is that college is not the only pathway to a successful and wealthy lifestyle.Half of the people that attend college often end up falling in debt and usually end up dropping out because of the pressure.Some jobs dealing with the person's interest don't require a higher education.For example,music or sports don't really require any education as it persist of the people you know and the opportunities you take. College can just cause stress,damaging your mental health which is much more important. The way these texts portrayed the view of college makes me happy as everyone is usually under pressure when asked about what college they are attending or if they are even attending college.This allows people to not view it as failure and allows to prove that college isn't the only way out.
- Personally,I believe this message is "right on point" as it removes pressure from certain people that are not thinking of attending a college.Pressure is given by parents and even the school when the talk about college is brought up but there's no point of adding more education when it is not enjoyed and just causes anxiety.Spending your life away studying isn't the best but if it leads to enjoyment,then the risk of taking college should be considered.College is not for everyone and shouldn't be mandatory for anyone.

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- "High school seniors who can’t declare they are college bound are made to feel like failures." (Shlack, p. 4)
- "You may be well educated, but not every degree is direct preparation for employment" (Fleming, Video)
- "Non-completers not only lose out on the benefits of a college degree, but also face increased debt without increased earnings." (Horn, p. 10)

- It's unfortunate may believe that college or some sort of higher education path is the natural next big step in their professional lives when that's simply not the case for most. The notion that college is the only path for greatness and those who don't go are failures is untrue, even in the salary sense may students who decide against college and instead into a 2 year program avoid massive amounts of debt and are often paid more than their 4 year education counterparts. This is also due to many college graduates being underemployed per their education as they often have no experience with what they have spent the last few years studying.
- Personally, I believe college and medical school is my future, but it isn't for everyone. People need to understand themselves and know what they are good at and what they like, this will lead to their highest possible salary while also maintaining job satisfaction and general happiness because they aren't working a job they only tolerate due to the wage.

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*Schlack suggests, "The decision not to go to college should not necessarily be viewed in negative terms" (p.6).

*The video describes that "Only a 33% of jobs will require you to have a 4-year college degree." (Fleming, Video)

*Horn expresses, "But that education has to be at the right time and in the right circumstance" (p.13).

*My general thoughts about these ideas as a whole is that it is alright if you do not go to a 4-year college because probably you are still not ready for it. It might be better to wait until you actually know what you want. If you don't really know what you want you can test the waters and just go to a 2-year college to see if that is a subject you are really interested in and if you are you can pursue further education by going to a 4-year college. Even, many jobs do not require you to have a 4-year college degree. Overall you should not give importance to comments that are negative towards you just because you decide not to go to a 4-year college.

*My thoughts towards this message is that it is "right on point" due to the reason that many high school seniors and graduates are still unsure of what they really want to study or pursue and they make the mistake of choosing a major they are not fond of. In which this might cause them to go into debt because they change their majors or because they drop out of college, or towards the end they might end up just hating their job. That is why I think this message is correct because students should wait to go to a 4-year college to find out what they truly want to study in life so that they don't make a mistake they will later on regret.

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- "Many could profit by simply going to work in a field they want to explore” (Schlack, p. 6)

-  Flemming reveals that there are dozens of job opportunities that only require a one-year certificate requiring technical skills. (Video)

- “Committing to a four-year school and taking on lots of debt when they lack passion and focus for the endeavor is risky, particularly given the grim college completion and student debt statistics.” (Horn… p. 9)

- I agree with the texts and the video. Attending a 4-year college isn’t everyone’s route to success. If you aren’t sure what to major in, you should explore your options before putting yourself in a position that could cost you years of debt. Many high demand careers only require a high school diploma and a 1-2 year certificate. These jobs allow you to develop technical skills that are helpful in the work world unlike a useless degree.

- I think this message is on point. As someone who isn’t quite sure what they want to be, I have a lot of exploring to do. There are many ways for me to explore my options such as taking a gap year or working. Switching majors or getting a useless degree would cost me money that I don’t have so it’s good to know that attending a 4-year college is just an option.

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- " college is not the only path to success in life."( Schlack, p.14)

- " only a quarter of those who enroll will finish a bachelors degree." (Fleming, Video)

- " they are motivated by external factors, not internal goals." (p.5)

- My general thoughts about these ideas is I agree completely because college is not the only way to success. I think schools should encourage students to know their options after high school and know they aren't failing.

- I think its a bit of both because you are encouraged to go to college and for your parents its a bit of pressure because you want to make them happy. On the other hand it can lead to doubt and uncertainty and may feel like its not your choice when it's your life and career.

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- "Status, economics, and competition are three powerful forces behind the pressure to attend college that exists today." (Shalack, p.4)
- "Interests, skills, and labor market are things in mind when picking a career path." (Flemming, Video)
- "We learned that a significant number of students from all backgrounds enroll in college to do what's expected of them or to help them get away from a bad circumstances in their lives." (Horn and Moesta, p. 5)

- I agree with this message in general, it is important for students to know all their options. Furthering students knowledge on military, associate degree, and cultural immersion. Most students feel a four year university is the best solution. Gap years are also an option which is spoken of little. Altogether I do feel that in many schools, staff and teachers do not explain thoroughly, different ways to be successful while including their interests and skills.
- This message is agreeable to some extent, but not "right on point". I do feel there is more awareness to be desired of, as far as options go. On the other hand I feel it discourages those who wish to attend a four year degree or more. These articles and video do not do a good job on explaining scholarships or FASA. Altough college is expensive, high grades and especially those with low income can be of use during applications. In the end college is about how driven you are, if you have goals pertaining college then exploring other options would be the best, but if you do the looking for help is attainable.

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“The decision not to go to college should not necessarily be viewed in negative terms.” (Schlack p. 6)

“Students at various educational levels have left school without employable skills; setting up our children for failure, costing them and taxpayers millions.” (Fleming, video)

“They choose college because it is a socially acceptable answer to what they are doing next.” (Horn & Mocsta, p. 5)

I think that students should really put thought into whether or not they’re ready for college. If you aren’t sure about what you want to do and are only deciding to go to college because you feel pressured to go, it would be better for you to take a gap year. This way, you’ll be able to figure out what you want to do with your life. Students shouldn’t feel as if their only option is college, just because they see others going doesn't mean they should be pressured to go.

I think this message is right on point. Many students think that they could get a good paying job just by getting a degree, and usually don’t care too much about skills. It is important for students to know their strengths and abilities before deciding to go to college to get their degree. Before deciding if they’re going to college, students should know that college isn’t the only option.

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- "The decision not to go to college should not necessarily be viewed in negative
terms." (Schlack, p 6)
- "Employers want to know what you can do and what you can do well; not just what degree hangs on your wall." (Fleming, video)
- "In other words, they are motivated by external factors, not internal goals." (Horn..., P 5)
- Going to college may benefit or not benefit a person in the future, but going to college is not everyone's dream. It's just up to the person to make their choice in life.
- I believe that this message is not dangerous because even if you don't go to college there are many ways to become successful. Plus, this is also a good thing to point out, if you go into debt and drop out, what's the point of going to college?

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- Schlack emphasizes, "Students are told they will land better jobs and earn
more money with a college degree."( Schlack p.5
- " A quarter of the students will graduate with a bachelors degree " (Fleming, video)

-"Instead of forcing college on students, educators would do better to encourage them to consider more than one pathway into a good life" ( Horn, p.3)

My general thought is , college is not for everyone but it should be available to anyone who wants to attend. A college education is useful because of the skills and because of the signal that a degree can send to employers.

It's correct but frightening. More teenage people need to understand this information, so they won't feel obligated to attend college if they don't believe that it will benefit them in the long run. It's dangerous, in my opinion,  teenagers will use the laziness or lack of motivation excuse . I prefer not to go to college because I don't require it. Furthermore, more children would indeed be avoided from tuition, energy wasted, and declining mental health if they understood that attending college may not be the best alternative for succeeding.

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- "They should stand up and be clear that college is not the only path to success in life." (Schlack, p 14)
- "Encourage all students to reflect on their goals and explore more than one pathway to purpose and success. " (Horn..., p. 11)
- "Only a quarter of those will finish a bachelors degree" (Fleming, video)
- I agree with these ideas that allow students to go out and explore more pathways and decide where they want to go. I also think that schools should give them more examples besides college.
- I think that there are different opinions here. I do think people exploring more is right but in a way it can say that college is a waste. I think that it all depends on how you look at your future.

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“The go-to-college tsunami has given us colleges full of young people who really don’t know they are there or where they are going”(Schlack, p 3)
“The claim that you will make more money with an increased amount of education is not necessarily inaccurate, its just incomplete”(Fleming, Video)
“Instead of adding to the pressure around college, which parents often fuel, high school educators should be the first line of defense for students who might benefit more from another path”(Horn…, p 11)

-I’ve always been told to study hard and get good grades in order to get into a good college and get a good job. Thats all I believed my whole life, I thought people who don’t go to college end up in a job that doesn’t pay well with no financial stability. As this idea was introduced to me, I thought about how it made a lot of sense and there was even statical evidence to support this claim. These idea gave me a new perspective about college and started thinking about what path I feel that is right for me.
-Unlike some people, I thought this message was right on point, there are so many people who are afraid to fail. College is the one thing we all worry about while being seniors in high school, but does it really benefit us? Yes it may benefit many people who want to be doctors and lawyers, but for people who have no idea what they want to do, taking time for yourself may help you find who you are. What would the point be if you attend college just to drop out in a few months. For someone who is being pressured into attending college, I understand the idea that college is not for everyone.

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- "Changing majors, dropping classes, starting over, raking up debt and finally dropping out-with but no degree" (Schlack, p 2)
- "Many discover that their degree didn't prepare them for the work" (Fleming, video)
- "Encourage all students to reflect on their goals and explore more than one pathway to purpose and success" (Horn & Moesta, p 11)

- I agree with these ideas and support allowing students to explore more options and choose what best suits them. I agree that school should further students education about all the options after high school.
- I think this idea can be a little bit of both. It can be dangerous because it gives the idea that college is a waste because you're just going to drop out and have loads of debt. Although it is also right to the point that college is not the only right and success path. I think it just depends on how you look at it.

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“High school seniors who can’t declare they are college bound are made to feel like failures” (Schlack, p 4).

“Degrees mean higher salary is a myth” (Fleming, video).

“In other words, they are motivated by external factors, not internal goals” (Horn…, p 5).

There is a lot of accuracy when it comes to these citations. Not everyone has to chose the college path. Many students are pressures by either parents or schools to apply and go to college. If students don’t choose the college path then to a majority of people they are looked at as failures. If they do decide to go to college for the degree and for more money as many adults had mentioned they are greeted by the reality of more hardship and a degree that they can no longer afford with racked up debt.

In a sense it can be right on point but then there are different opinions. I personally cannot say that it is right on point because it is something I have never experienced. From my parents pov I’m getting the “college is good for you and can get you places” and on the other I am hearing that it’s better to be smarter about the way that you go to college instead of just going to go. I am still not fully convinced on both ideas.

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- "There are plenty of those who have
stuck it out for a year or two, changing majors, dropping classes, starting over,
racking up debt, and finally dropping out—with debt but no degree." (p1)
- 2 out of 3 initially are deemed the successful onces but what you won't see advertised is the reality. (filming video)
- most students will drop out
- My general thought about this is that I agree with it because college is not the only path away for success.
- I think that this message is really good because it's your choice to go to college, you don't have to go if you don't want to.

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- Schlack emphasizes, "High school seniors who can’t declare they are college bound are made to feel like failures" (Schlack, p.4).

- Fleming adds, "An individual with a college degree makes significantly more money than the typical one without a high school education," (Fleming, Video).

- Horn and Boesta argue, "Too many students go to college not knowing what they want to get out of it or how to make it work for them," (Horn, Moesta, p.9).

The perspective I have based on these ideas is positive. The idea of whether going to college or not is worth it varies on each individual. If a student is aware of the profession they pursue and knows themself well, then college is the secure path. On the contrast, if a student is unsure of which career to pursue or are only going to college because that is a socially acceptable answer, then the outcomes are generally poor. I do concur that college isn't the only path to success. There are numerous other opportunities such as "gap year", boot camp, or working in a field individuals desire to explore.

The message of "Not Going to College" based on the texts and video can be both dangerous or "right on point." Advocating on other options besides college can lead individuals to have doubt or insecurity and question themselves about whether or not attend college and risk on going in large amounts of debt. "Not Going to College" can also allow students to take a "gap year" and explore other options to find their strengths and weaknesses.

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- "The go-to-college tsunami has given us colleges full of young people who
really don’t know why they are there or where they are going." (paragraph 3)
- as many students find that education can help them in life with many financial aids and jobs. Once they get there diploma they will go into the world and get a job just to find out that they aren't accepting any more workers and learn that they wasted so much time and money on a diploma they wont be able to use.(video flaming)
- “college for all” messages cause far too many students from all demographics to make choices that result in failure." (paragraph 2)
- when i look at all the information that was given to me through the text and the video i feel like going to college might not be worth it but at the same time it is worth it.
- The message that is given threw education is in the wrong because fleming states that many students will get there diploma and will end up getting rejected from the job they could get because many college graduates are going for the same job.

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"Do you really need college to get where you want to go?” (Schlack, p. 11).

More students going to college isn't going to change the type of jobs that dominate our economy(Fleming, Video).

"...expected of them or to help them get away from a bad circumstance..." (Horn & Mocsta, p. 5).

It is clear that going to college isn't the only option a person has to be successful. A college degree doesn't guarantee you a job. Often, college graduates end up with a job that doesn't even require the degree. Knowing what your strength, skills, and interests are is a must. Educators shouldn't only encourage students to go to college, they should also inform students of their other options and how to get to those options.

I think this message is dangerous. I know multiple students who think they must go to college in order to become a successful person or that going to college is what is expected from them. When your life revolves around going to college and you suddenly learn that college isn't your only option, your world spins and you may experience an existential crisis.

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- " Students are told they will land better jobs and earn more money with a college degree " ( Schlack, p 5)

- " A quarter of the students will graduate with a bachelors degree " (Fleming, video)

- " They should encourage all students to reflect on their goals and explore more than one pathway to purpose and success "
( Horn, p.11)

- My general thoughts about these ideas is I support them because college is never the only way to a successful pathway you can do other things after graduating high school and then after if you don't like it then you can go to college if that's what you want.

- I think this message is on point because students should know the meaning of how important it is to have an education in order to pursue a good career.

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- "Students are told they will land better jobs and earn more money with a collage degree"(Schlack,p.4).
- "You need education in order to get a high paid job"Flenning,videos).
- "Counselors and teachers should help students explore these opportunities."(horn,p.13).

- I think College is important for many reasons, including increased career stability and satisfaction, and the ability to make an impact on your community. A college education can open doors for your career and your own personal growth, like you could gain skills such as self awareness and your mindset.
- So I think collage is important for the people who want to gain knowledge and want to succeed in their life.

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- "Too many young people graduate without a realistic picture of their own talents and aptitudes and too many don't have any clear idea of where these strengths might take them in the work field" (Schlack, p13)
- schools leads students without job knowledge, leading kids into failure and the more people going to college, the less opening there is for job opportunities(Fleming, video)
- "They choose college because it is a socially acceptable answer to what they are doing next" ( Horn, p 5)
- My thoughts generally are I completely agree with the video and the articles. The video had said they only want is money and the article states you DON'T have to go to college to be successful, and I agree on both of those
- I think the message is dangerous but its right. More kids should hear this message so they aren't obligated to go to college if they don't feel like it's going to help them in the future. The reason I think its dangerous is kids will use the excuse "I don't want to go to college because I don't need it" because they're lazy or unmotivated. But if more kids heard that college isn't always the option to be successful, they would be saved from debt, time, and their mental health worsening.

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-"High school doesn't always prepare students to answer these important questions." (p13)

-"The force and the economy grows but the ratio will not change." ( Fleming video)

-"Educators have a responsibility to help create those pathways and students." (p10)

-My general thoughts are that students that drop out  are the main reason why schools accept more and more students each year.

-I think that this message is on point because students should understand the meaning of how important school is.

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- ¨ They should stand up and be clear that college is not the only path to success in life.¨ (Schlack, p 14)
- ¨ Not every degree is a preparation.¨ (Fleming, Video)
- ¨ We learned that a significant number of students from all backgrounds enroll in college to do what’s expected of them or to help them get away from a bad circumstance in their lives.¨ (Horn..., p 5)
- My general thoughts about these ideas is I support them because it is true that college is not the only path to success in life. Also, some students want to go to college because of their bad circumstances in their lives.
- This message is right on point because this is your choice to go to college or not, never let others choose it for you.