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Beauty may not be realized in the moment, but after the journey it can be seen

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They're good with participation

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Marrow Thieves: Frenchie realizes that he loves Rose and follows her through the woods. He was able to develop a strong connection with her, and wanted to be with her. Even though the time they are in where they will die if they get caught, he was still able to put in effort to a relationship.

Takeaway: It is important to find beauty in struggle because it can help you fight to get out of it. Also once you are out of that struggle it is a huge accomplishment that can  fulfill  affect your life after it.

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Beauty can be hope, a reason or a will to keep going, beauty can be the flowers of struggle itself, not just the fruit

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It was interesting how they connected Marrow Thieves to struggling to find beauty, with Frenchie struggling with Rose's companionship but still finding beauty in her presence.

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they made good points and had many good quotes. and how they made many refrences to the text. they talked about their own ecerpinces too

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I like that they mentioned that when miig lost Isaac he was struggling but it developed his character and helped him become a leader.

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There is no beauty without struggle, no prosperity without conflict, no bliss without ignorance. After a negative event, it can be hard to come back to your former happiness. It is all about perspective, however, as people who are more optimistic tend to at least ATTEMPT to find beauty through tragedy.

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Issac's sacrifice was the pain and fuel that drove Miigwans until he found the beauty within Issac when they were reunited

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I like how they take quotes from the text and insert it into their answers

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I like how they are talking about marrow thieves and referring to the evidence inside of the book.

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Despite the hardships shown in the text,how do these stories help us celebrate and uplift these identities? Can we find beauty within the struggle? How do we do that? Why is it important to do that?

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Despite the hardships shown in the text,how do these stories help us celebrate and uplift these identities? Can we find beauty within the struggle? How do we do that? Why is it important to do that?

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The example of Frenchie trying to find Rose once she left, he put in effort because he loved Rose. Frenchie also had struggled to find Minerva and the group struggled as a whole, but in their efforts to find her they found Frenchie's dad and the whole group of Natives. You can find much beauty in struggle.
-They found much evidence in Marrow Thieves for this discussion.

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Frenchie and the rest of the group put in lots of work and time and struggle to survive. The beauty of this would be Frenchie reuniting with his dad after going for Minerva. Miig finally seeing Isaac again after the problems that took place before. Some points made were COVID19 and how bad it was but also having that time to spend with family and at home although the world may have been really scary at that time. This changed my perspective because you can always find beauty and happiness somewhere and it's super important to seek that out in everything.

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I like when they talked about when they cut off their hair for Minerva was a big point because they are giving up something important to them for someone they loved more to honor her.

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Dreams are the beauty within the hellscape that is the dystopian chaos of marrow thieves

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I like how they go between question and answer to evidence from the text to quotes

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In The Marrow Thieves, although they are struggling to survive, their are positive things that came out of it.

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There was a connection made where during the pandemic there was a beauty which was community coming together to help.

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brought in good evidence to support their connections. spoke up a lot and kept the conversation going

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To continue despite the hardships, the result may or may not be rewarding but continuing nonetheless, is it beautiful?

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Rose is the beauty in Frenchie's struggle

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that society includes your friends and cultures so decision making can affect that. Did a good job asking questions when the conversation started to go down a little bit. They all had good points

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What is it? Does it even exist?

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Perspective affects what you think is just. there will never be true justice because there will always be someone that disagrees about what is just. Society's perspective of justice changes over time. Justice could be defined as what the majority see's as right.

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I think one thing they did well is that the society around us is having a bigger word now than authority somehow and way 

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I think one thing they did well is that the society around us is having a bigger word now than authority somehow and way 

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People disagree on the appliance of justice, and what is actually deserving of harsh justice - The ends don't always justify the means

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A key point they made was justice is achieved when the majority makes an agreement on something. People with more power have more influence. You can't have true justice because not everybody is going to be happy.

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The true form of justice is very different depending on who you are. You may believe justice to be bad or it to be good. You may have a way of looking at a group of people using your perspective because of your own personal opinion. I know now people take justice into their own belief. In the end, there is no such thing as one form of justice. 

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The true form of justice is very different depending on who you are. You may believe justice to be bad or it to be good. You may have a way of looking at a group of people using your perspective because of your own personal opinion. I know now people take justice into their own belief. In the end, there is no such thing as one form of justice. 

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Justice is decided by vocal, these voices are heard by lower people and are usually spoken by bigger influences who the lower people usually look up to. This also means that the minority does not get to speak their choice, which leads to many being dissapointed by the outcome of the justice.
-I like the connections they made the Cell One, they also had many connections to the books
This changed my perspective because I always thought about each individual having their own perspective of justice and what they think is right, I never though about the possible that people get their perspectives from higher people.
-I really liked how one of the guys had many connections to the real world, the group also gave many examples of how justice can be different to others.
They connected the example of how one person can change the perspective for many people, which was the George Floyd incident,  I thought this was a really good connection because I think everybody can relate to it. Wether it is people thinking the cops are all violent people who abuse power, or cops are being misinterpreted by society and one accident changed the whole view that society had on others.
Perspective can be judges on opinions, which is a form of perspective. So justice can be judges based on who, and what people believe in.

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Question: "Is there ever time when justice is the wrong action?"

Response: There is a time when you have to take was you believe and use that. But there is also a time when you have to understand that other people have different beliefs and base your view of justice off of that.

Cell One: Everyone can have there own definition of justice. For Nnamabia his was telling the guards what they were doing to the old man was wrong. They heard him and didn't like what he said she they put him in a cell, but that was justice for the old man to him.

Takeaways: No one is going to agree on the same thing, and there is no true justice. Everyone was raised different, and you can never please everyone. Someone might think that someone has gotten justice when someone else may think they haven't.

~ Bella G

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In Marrow Thieves, the council uses their voices to advocate for themselves and their people, disadvantage doesn't mean they have no voice

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Justice is complex to achieve because so many people can see something in so many different ways and we cant control what these people would think.

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Some interesting points that were made were that different perspectives will differ based on influence, your actions will affect your justice, and your beliefs are a part of what brings you justice. A quote that stood out to me was when Nnamabia used his voice to bring the old man justice in his time of embarrassment. This conversation has changed my perspective because it made me really think about what brings justice and what changes perspective. -Jacalyn W.

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There was a point made where nothing is gonna be happy with anything. People are gonna twist things.

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There was a point made where nothing is gonna be happy with anything. People are gonna twist things.

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Justice is complex because people's sense of justice is based on them, which has a lot of room for variability

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It is a matter of perspective by how most people go with the majority of a group to fit in. People get justice by their actions and if people are willing to stand up for you. Powerful people get their thoughts out their to the world and this causes people to hear these thoughts and ideas. Humans know what is ethical and what is unethical causing humans to have know what people are doing that is unjust. There is never justice that everyone agrees on and no group of people will all feel the exact same way on something. This changed my perspective to think that justice is not perfect and that many people will never think or agree with you on something.
natalie bellis

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They connect the book and the short stories to the question and it also aligns with my perspective on how people have their own sense of justice like how people say that murder is horrible but to you murder was a way of revenge or justice to you. The evidence that stood out was the evidence in the book and in Cell One.

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A lot of good points were made referring to the question, people were talking about cell one and referring it to quotes and evidence from the text.

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1) Justice is a matter of perspective. 2) Justice has the potential of being  achieved in every society. 3) This can relate to Trevor Noah's book. 

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1) Justice is a matter of perspective. 2) Justice has the potential of being  achieved in every society. 3) This can relate to Trevor Noah's book. 

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The people who have a more popular voice can make a positive change and justice or they can lead people down.

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Nnamabia used his voice to defend the old man because he believed the man was being treated unjustly

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people with more authority in my opinion gets acknowledged more and gets heard and their point heard more 

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people with more authority in my opinion gets acknowledged more and gets heard and their point heard more 

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An interesting point made was how one person said that justice is served by the majority, but then they were disagreed with when someone brang up morality and how that can also affect justice in a way and that people's opinions may always be different on how justice should really be served whether or not the person deserves that in the peoples perspective.
This didn't really change my perspective but I do agree that with more power/the way you're raised can change how one might feel justice SHOULD be served but not how it would be 'correctly' served to someone.

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A person's upbringing or perspective can influence their idea of justice

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People with more power have their voices heard

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Lots of interesting points talking about how people are trying to fit in.

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i like how they related to the modern persons daily life.

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A key point they made was people do things to fit into society. In Marrow Thieves Lincoln and Travis despite being native follow the societal trend of hunting native people. People are also responsible for their own actions. Society influenced Namibia in Cell One to be in a gang, but he also made the decision to steal himself.

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They connect the book and the short stories that we have red to keep the conversation going. I also liked their answers to the questions I think it gives them their own opinion of the questions. They talked about how society affects peoples choices and it aligns with my perspective on how it is what you believe in and what you want to believe in. for example society says that it's unusual for a woman to drive an f1 car or something like that. They gave their evidence with their quotes in the book and the quotes in the short stories.

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Question: "To what extent does society impact an individual's choices?"

Takeaways: Many individuals are influenced by how the majority of people act, think or talk. It is important to display unique opinions and views, because they can spark more ethical choices or decisions. Society can become dangerous if many people believe in something that is unethical or wrong. People are also indoctrinated at birth to believe certain things are right and wrong, and can be influenced throughout their life by outside sources, such as the aforementioned society.

-Frederick W

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Some interesting points that were made were that people try and fit in with society's trends, influence plays a major role in society, and trying to be like someone else. Some evidence that stood out to me was in Cell One when Nnamabia helped the old man, and didn't laugh like the rest of the people.This conversation made me realize that fitting in with other people can really end up being very dangerous if you are not careful with what decisions you are making.
-Jacalyn W.

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I like how they insert how it connects to their life and their relationships and not just the book

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I did like how one of the guys included someone, asking what they were gonna say when they got interrupted.

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they did a good job by bringing in new subjects when the conversation started to die

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they did a good job by bringing in new subjects when the conversation started to die

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1) Society and people around you can affect you personally by wanting to fit in. 2) An individual is responsible for their own actions and should take accountability for what they do and the choices they make. 

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1) Society and people around you can affect you personally by wanting to fit in. 2) An individual is responsible for their own actions and should take accountability for what they do and the choices they make. 

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i like how most of there discussion was based of text from the books ad everyone was connecting to one another explanations 

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i like how most of there discussion was based of text from the books ad everyone was connecting to one another explanations 

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I like how they mentioned that by society it could be like your friends or even your family, so it can have different levels of how much it affects you.

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I think there should be more direct quotes in my opinion

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I like how when the conversation started to die down, they started to ask new questions and bring up a new topic and idea.

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People get affected by others like friends, culture, friend groups, and peers might do things like trends from these people. Not always does that person want to do what other people are doing around them. This changed me because it made me think about how many people are just following around groups to fit in but it is not actually them who want to do something. Bringing in pieces of evidence from Cell One and The Marrow Thieves made their conversation's smooth.
natalie bellis

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I like how all their voices were well heard and how questions were asked in order to keep the conversation going.

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I like how they connect their point to their question and make it a smooth conversation. Also how they tell how the question reflects on the book

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they made good point like how like are impacted by society.