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Could the council do anything to incentivise the use of ecargo bikes for last mile deliveries?

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Close Carlyle Street to through traffic?

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Close Carlyle Street to through traffic?

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Why not close Carlyle street to through traffic?  If the goal of the LFT is to push traffic off residential side streets and onto arterial roads, there’s no reason anyone would use Carlyle Street as a through road except to avoid Elm Grove and QPR

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Please make a better plan for Carlyle Street and Bentham Road!!  These must be two of the busiest walking routes in Hannover for children going to school each day (either walking done the hill to Elm Grove or up the hill to St Lukes and the Orchard).  Yet the current plans for a “low traffic” zone are going to dramatically increase the amount in of pollution and dangerous traffic on tese roads.

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Some great ideas already posted.

What I would like to see is a master plan that can be rolled out over the next few years. Controlling traffic flow, adding planters, new bike parking, dipped kerbs are great short term hits. What about thinking more deeply for the future? Some ideas; electric car charging points mass roll out, underground bins as on the continent and now Cambridge, mass renovation of housing to bring up to modern insulation standards, removal of wood stoves, roll out of a community heat network, mass community fitment of roof mounted solar. As a community we can use our numbers to achieve much more cost effectively.

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This is probably worth supporting as it takes a strategic view for the whole of  Brighton and prioritises those schemes that will make a real impact. eg traffic on elm grove and QP Road. There is an exhibition in the library but no mention is made of the Hanover LN Plan. Which IMO is not a priority when money is tight.
https://www.brightonhove.gov.uk/onejourneybetter#

There is no real case for the Hanover project as we are well placed to walk to local opportunities - shops, open green space etc. Traffic is not on the scale of London.  Cycling is not an option for all so should only be promoted if other modes eg buses are made more affordable. Cycling without proper planning can also impact negatively on other groups eg pedestrians. I hope the green councilors promoting this scheme finally undertake some real consultation with all local residents and not just with those they are in agreement with.

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Our LTP5 will set our vision and priorities for transport and travel across the city to 2030 and what we need to do to deliver them.

The LCWIP will present strategic walking and cycling networks and areas for improvements to encourage and support active travel in the city. Active travel is simply travelling in ways that are physically active like walking, wheeling (wheelchair / mobility aid), cycling or scooting for all, or part, of a journey.

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Our LTP5 will set our vision and priorities for transport and travel across the city to 2030 and what we need to do to deliver them. The LCWIP will present strategic walking and cycling networks and areas for improvements to encourage and support active travel in the city.

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If the aim is to reduce air pollution on this road, only the down option makes sense.

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I live on Southover street and find the idea of cutting down traffic to be brilliant as long as we use trees and planters but absolutely avoid bins and bollards which could ruin the catacter of Hanover 🙂 Make the area green!

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An interesting initiative from Barcelona

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An interesting initiative from Barcelona

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https://www.eltis.org/in-brief/news/barcelona-issues-annual-public-transport-tickets-former-car-owners

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Creating- and maintaining- the shift from urban automobile travel to public transport is a complex task. As emissions reduction targets loom ahead, cities and regions across the world are finding new and innovative ways to achieve this transition.

In Barcelona a large effort is underway to encourage drivers to replace car travel with public transit. Since 2017, the Metropolitan Area of Barcelona has provided over 12,000 metropolitan tickets to those that gave up their private vehicle.

The metropolitan T-verda ("T-green") ticket is delivered free of charge to citizens that decide to give up their polluting vehicle. The title allows for unlimited and free use of the public transport services across the zones from 1 to 6 of the Metropolitan Area of Barcelona for a duration of three years.

Since its creation in 2017, Barcelona has awarded more than 12,000 T-green tickets, precipitating a reduction of 10,613 cars and 1,735 motorcycles across the metropolitan area.

This ticketing system has been supported by the introduction of the Low Emissions Zone (LEZ) Rondas BCN, towards the end of 2019 and the beginning of 2020, which restricted circulation of the most polluting vehicles from Monday to Friday working days, from 7:00 to 20:00.

As the LEZ came into force, the city saw a rapid rise in request for the public transport ticket. During the month of November 2020, over 729 applications were received.

The combination of these interventions has proved highly successful, with a large reduction in private vehicles, among which 66% were gasoline and 34% corresponds to diesel vehicles.

Photo Credit: Di skyNext © / Shutterstock.com - no permission to re-use image(s) without separate licence from Shutterstock

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Barcelona issues annual public transport tickets to former car owners | Eltis

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Creating- and maintaining- the shift from urban automobile travel to public transport is a complex task. As emissions reduction targets loom ahead, cities and regions across the world are finding new and innovative ways to achieve this transition. In Barcelona a large effort is underway to encourage drivers to replace car travel with public transit.

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A number of cities around the world have implemented underground street bins. The attached YouTube video shows how they work. They look great and could solve pretty much all the issues regarding bins in Hanover (eg. cluttered footpaths, fly-tipping, smelly bins). Liverpool City Council installed some last year (https://www.apse.org.uk/apse/index.cfm/news/articles/2020/bringing-the-benefits-of-underground-bins-to-the-uk/).

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Swansea Council is paying for free bus travel at weekends in August - may be worth trying in Brighton?

https://www.wales247.co.uk/free-bus-travel-begins-today-in-swansea

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A simple and cheap way to improve the liveable quality of Hanover should be to prioritise peace and quiet late at night. With the best will in the world the constant revolution of students, who are the main contributors of noise, adds to this problem — and sadly a polite conversation rarely sticks. Some consideration has to be taken into account for people raising families, those who feel trapped in their own homes, and everyone who needs a good night sleep! Pubs can’t create noise outside after 11pm so why should others be allowed to? Working closely with the uni to help enforce a noise ban after a certain hour could make a huge difference.

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"Local community groups can request the council considers a Low Traffic Neighbourhood for their area by taking a deputation – signed by six people – to the Environment, Transport and Sustainability Committee."

According to this site you only need 6 people to initiate an LTN review. The "Local community Group" is led by Green councillors so this seems set up to allow the Greens to initiate their own pet projects without any real community involvement!

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It would be great to extend this pilot to the Hartington streets as these are used as cut throughs between Elm Grove and Lewes Rd constantly.

The amount of bins on the pavemens also make it impossible to walk a buggy/use a wheelchair in the area without going in the road (into aforementioned fast traffic). Can we look at bin sharing / waste reduction schemes too?

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If some of the roads are going to be made one way, as has been proposed, then perhaps they could return to having parking on both sides like before the permit bays were introduced. So long as there was room to turn at the far end it wouldn’t matter if the road became only one lane wide. It would be nice not to have to drive around and around searching for a space.

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Can we have more planters, green spaces ans trees for better air quality and biodiversity. Even though many have private gardens, we can still make Hanover greener to benefit everyone. Reduce cars but allow parking for residents (I don’t have a car but know some people need it). Swap other parking for trees/planters. Find trees that don’t grow too large and don’t have invasive roots so even the narrower streets in Hanover can benefit from them.

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I attended this zoom meeting last night. There were some interesting presentations. One suggested that the concept of the 15 minute city would mean  you would not need to travel as everything will be in Hanover! IMO it is important to get out - for this we need an affordable and reliable bus network as well. Furthermore there were no counter arguments to any statements - children playing in the street may sound great but this is not the only purpose of this scheme and could well be dangerous + we have parks etc in close proximity anyway. For this scheme to work and be successful it needs the support of all residents not just the ones the Greens choose to talk to. People have cars for a reason (getting to work etc) and this cannot be ignored. Please note I am not against this scheme per se I just think it needs proper consultation and real thought which was not apparent last night. Hanover is not Waltham Forest : narrow streets, predominantly residential, it is on a steep hillside!

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Somebody mentioned  "No Left Turn" into Southover and it seemed a compromise worth consideration. I understand that it is a much harder street to find options for because of it's direct arterial position but maybe this is a solution

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Here's a few of my more practical ideas for our street. I know the hardest problem to solve is the busier streets so it'll be interesting to see what consultants put forward for Southover, Elm Grove, Albion etc.

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Seeing as "My Dream Street" is about throwing everything out there and seeing what sticks, I thought I'd just go crazy with ideas. Here are a few of my wilder thoughts

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Blocking Carlton hill outside the school, between John st and Mighell st would create a safer entrance/exit for children and stop cars using it as a shortcut to get to Queens Park rd.

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Buses
I am sure people would love to ditch their cars if  we had more frequent buses. I am one of those people that regularly struggled on and off buses with a double buggy after having waited ages in all weathers! Is there a strategy for transport for people with children, limited mobility etc? If not I can’t really blame people for wanting a car. I’ve seen a lot of ‘green’ talk from people who are pretty dismissive of people that can’t cycle!

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There are lots of suggestions re parking. Could we be bold and make a zone parking just for the liveable zone for one month? I bet people would be really shocked at just how many fewer cars there are and how much nicer it feels. I feel we are being used as a car park for areas further out. Just a trial?

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We will soon be able to install a number bike hangars but they would only be put in places where enough interest has been shown. If you're interested in a space in a bike hangar, please complete this: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdWdfnC3KruK-CbWxwnEZRm5GlO4mVULzq2jFvZmtV75cX0DA/viewform

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I just got back from a walk in Hanover and  I couldn't count how many awful polluting vehicles were clogging up the roads. One day the other week after walking in Hanover I coughed up blood after choking on some diesel. Please can the Greens just act? Not plan to act in 5 years. ACT NOW. Get the cars off the street. Ban them. Its a public health crisis. In the Kamsons pharmacy on Elm Grove there's a poster saying how to reduce risk of cancer: "Avoid air pollution"...... What??? So the onus is on the individuals? The pedestrians? What are we meant to do, never leave the house? There are schools around Elm Grove, children for Christ's sake! Are they meant to develop health problems because of the selfishness and laziness of these idiots in their cars?

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There is a cycle parking area at bottom of islingword place it would be fantastic if this was covered and secure with key card for residents aa mentioned. 

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There is a cycle parking area at bottom of islingword place it would be fantastic if this was covered and secure with key card for residents aa mentioned. 

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What I like about living here is the peace and quiet yet within walking distance of the City centre. Any changes should prioritise peace and quiet as the goal. Parklets for pubs - would not be good for those who have to live/suffer next to them. Traffic - reduce speeds and noise first. The impacts of the ideas suggested on this forum need to be fully understood.  Lets here it for the silent majority!

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Whilst this is an issue especially when it  blocks roads or cars parked on  double yellow lines, shouldn't these officers be dealing with other serious traffic infringements eg speed
Ing vehicles- give them.all a speed monitor. Road safety should be the top.priority.

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Planters on the corner of QPR and Southover

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Planters on the corner of QPR and Southover

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There are two perfect triangular shaped spots for some greening on the corner of QPR and Southover by the block of flats. This would discourage fly tipping/use by dogs and bring some much needed greenery to the top of Southover. A Copenhagen crossing there would also discourage drivers from taking the corner very quickly as well as prevent people parking on the double yellow lines.
On QPR, widening the pavements would improve accessibility, the road is wide enough to accommodate this and perhaps a cycle super highway down one side as well and/or making part of the street one way as it is currently a thoroughfare for a lot of heavy traffic (buses, plant machinery and cars). The bins currently make it very difficult for pram and wheelchair users to easily navigate the pavement. A pedestrian crossing between Islingword and the Cherry Tree would also be beneficial to improve access to the park.

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Elm Grove Primary School Dream Street Posters

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Elm Grove Primary School Dream Street Posters

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At Elm Grove Primary School we asked our pupils to get involved with this project and create their own dream street posters. Linked below are some of the great ones that we have had back so far!

https://www.elmgrove.brighton-hove.sch.uk/news/hanover-liveable-neighbourhood/

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When I use Google Maps route planner (from Carlyle St (going west)) the default route is often via Southover Street. Hopefully this article will result in better route planning (not just following the fastest route) by users - including avoiding LTNs, creating fewer rat runs etc. This would mean more thought needs to be given on traffic management in streets such as Elm Grove, QPR etc.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56585877

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The top of the streets that fork off at the top of Elm Grove, especially next to the shops and Queens Park road junction are dangerous. Particularly for children crossing on their way to and from school. It would be good to see a change here.

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Cleaner pavements would be the best improvement around Elm Grove school in my opinion. Not day goes by where we're not having to dodge a dogs dump....

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We desperately need many covered and secure cycle storage units. It's really awkward getting a bicycle through our narrow terraced homes, into the back gardens. Install storage units at the end of each street, with access via a key for which  we pay a small monthly or yearly fee. This would encourage more cycling and tidy-up the streets (and our gardens!).

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Increased traffic onto "trunk roads"
What about liveable Elm Grove or the areas above the triangle?  These expensive plans will push traffic elsewhere, and likely increase speeds. What funding will be provided to the areas around this scheme to areas to reduce traffic speeds, improve pavements, crossings and schemes to put green area on these streets? Where is the parity between livable Hanover and the adjacent areas?

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The road in Hanover I find most difficult to cross is Islingword Road - particularly at the top.

I would support anything that can be done to calm or divert traffic using it as a rat run to avoid QPR/Elm Grove.

Maybe restricting traffic turning into the top of the road? Or putting a zebra crossing somewhere near the Constant Service?

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Hanover is defined by its terrace housing each with a back garden. Residents could be encouraged to use this open space/parklet - through advice and garden competitions. Could encourage pot plants at the front - as an alternative to trees which could block.out light where there is limited space.

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What could be done to stop these roads being used as a cut through between Queens Park Road and Elm Grove? Perhaps a different surface so they are more like a large pedestrian area but can still be driven down? Such as the road outside the theatre. Or staggering the parking from left to right? Extra planters so more trees can be added? Or forcing a one way turn at the end of the streets, but in the direction that is opposite to how the rat runners use them?

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Finsbury Road

Higher density population compared with much of Hanover - mostly flats (71% according to 2011 census). On street parking both sides of the road and road is used by through traffic.

* Parking could be limited to residents of Finsbury Road only (+ visitor permits).
* Designated unloading bay for deliveries, etc.
* Planters either end to discourage through traffic.
* Improve grounds and bin housing on council properties to discourage fly tipping

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Realistic Solutions.
Any proposals need to respect the specific conditions of Hanover: High density area of narrow streets, hilly, close to one large park and the sea. Most houses with their own private . garden.  Residents have cars for a reason so better to promote shared road space and reduce speeds/noise. Parklets are not a priority because we have our own gardens. Cycling in a hilly area is only.possible for a ypung demographic. Southover Street is not Amsterdam.

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We need to figure out why at some times of day 90% of cars travelling south on Richmond terrace towards the sea turn left up Southover. I've watched and many ultimately turn right down Belgrave or Newhaven street (rat run) but many continue further up. So rather than focussing on particular roads off Southover (which I suspect will just shift the problem onto the next road up) can we come up with a plan to discourage 'left onto Southover' in general? Any ideas?

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The traffic which uses this street to cut through the area needs to be significantly discouraged.

Appropriate signing is needed at both at the the bottom and top of the street to discourage this.

Possibly a one way road system up Southover Street ( because Islingwood Road is partly uphill one way ) is needed and traffic calming put in place in various ways including wider pavements, creating a focal area around the community centre,  proper bus shelter and seating at end end of Belgrave St, greening of Finsbury Rd roundabout and also greening  ( planters and/ or trees)  outside the community centre

A radical idea which would transform the area would be to close Southover Street  mid way up possibly at the community centre. Road Bollards could be activated by the bus and emergency vehicles but through traffic would be very limited.

Seating area and greening outside the pubs at the lower end of Southover and a major review and development of Lewes Street car Park area and play area behind the Greys.

Bike shelters and electric bike HUD’s could help with the traffic calming

Street art including mosaics to beautify the area.

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Lincoln Street

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Hi folks, just did a sketch of some ideas

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I live on Hartington Road and drivers fly down at well over the 20mph limit. There should be more traffic calming measures to force drivers to slow down.

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Secure cycle storage. Community composting. Parklets. Trees, Trees, Trees! Or at least some greenery, please!

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The pavements are crowded with ugly wheelie bins and recycling boxes, restricting access and spilling litter. Communal bins don't work at the moment because there are only a few, so they attract fly tipping from beyond the street they serve, and people rightly don't want them outside their houses. What could work?

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Compost Tumbler for fast efficient quality results

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Especially in street corners, in widened pavements, etc. Not blocking any light from residential properties.

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Make changes so that traffic is not able to cut through easily. For example, from Belgrave Street to Washington Street, a modal filter cars could be put in place so that traffic can only turn left or right but not go straight on.

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Pavement widening the length of Southover St, Albion Hill & Islingword Rd to enable safe and distanced walking on these busy pedestrian & motor vehicle routes

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Remove on-street parking and create better streets to live on. 

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Remove on-street parking and create better streets to live on. 

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Amsterdam is removing 10,000 parking spaces this year. Could we just remove a few? (or a lot)

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Amsterdam's Removing 10,000 Parking Spaces: See what's possible!

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On my swing to The Netherlands to visit Utrecht, I planned on just trying to gather up enough footage and talk to a few people in Amsterdam regarding the transportation headlines they made a few months ago when they announced they would be removing from 10,000 to 11,000 parking spaces from the city's core.

I really only planned on perhaps a very short 90 second vid showing a few shots of parked cars and soundbites from a few notable folks in Amsterdam. What I got was so much more. As you will see I got to talk to some amazing folks including Zeeger Ernsting, a City Councilperson for GroenLinks (Green Party) who gave me the story how the initiative came about and told me I needed to visit the Frans Halsbuurt neighborhood where an entire grid of streets now virtually has no parking except for loading spaces (an extremely good idea!) and a few spaces for handicapped access.

The neighborhood has been undergoing a transformation for many years and there are a myriad of reasons why the spot was chosen (in fact I am planning on going back in July to fully document it even more in-depth.) But if you go to Google and check out the street views from 2012 thru this year, you will see car parking evaporate in the final panels. As dramatic and lovely as this film makes it seem I must advise you: it is even more lovely, lush and livable. If you have a chance, go there. See it for yourself.

We need to be thinking about this in every major city. A commitment to start shrinking the number of places we allow parking.

Paging Dr. Don Shoup!

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How can we stop pavement parking?
Some ideas:
Chalk/paint reminders on kerbs that -- wheelchair/pushchair users need space and a reminder of how much (like the 2m signs)
- Official 'no pavement parking' signs in the street
- Make residents aware of how it can be reported.
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Ensure reuse and upcycling of unwanted goods.

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Some locations have been previously identified by local sustainability group Hanover Action. But please add your suggestions for other locations that would benefit from secure bike storage too. These would be lockable so bikes are safe.

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Well-maintained street planters can enhance the look of a street and can be positioned to slow traffic or to block off roads at one end, to stop traffic cutting through.

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Streets with two-way traffic changed to one way, to reduce through traffic

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Signs, at the entrance points to Hanover saying something like:
Hanover Liveable Neighbourhood, a low traffic area. Cyclists, walkers welcome. Vehicular access restricted to residents, visitors, deliveries, pubic transport, refuse, maintenance and emergency vehicles. It would be nice if signs were colourful and led by visuals rather than words, and designed by children at local schools or local artists.

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A parklet is a kerbside social space that gives residents opportunities for socialising and makes social distancing easier. Suggestions for two:
Outside the Greys
Outside the Village