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This is ideal but it makes it challengingto provide services.

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I understand the idea, but it’s challenging for inclusion (takes more staff).

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Having teachers who want to go ahead and evaluate but have not provided interventions with fidelity as well as taken data is challenging for me as a SPED teacher to hear/see in SST meetings.

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Really support the research on natural proportions and mentor building administration on current best practices.

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Natural proportion is not natural selection!

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Require buy in from all parties to be effective

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In elementary school every class had their own lunch table. My gen ed class was too big for our table and so the last 1-2 people in line had to sit at the self-contained sped class table. Kids would cut in line to avoid being last as this was a cause of bullying. Natural proportion would have solved this problem as there would be no stigma sitting at “the sped table.”

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MTSS is too ambiguous in its transition of a student to a sped referral.  Tier 1 is for everyone but many sped kids get left out due to so much pull-out time and gen eds inability to make it happen.

Sped kiddos spread out proportionally is the ideal BUT I’d rather have my students placed in classrooms where the gen ed teacher will accept and include them. This allows us to co-teach and stop pull outs.

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MTSS is challenging without proper training, staffing, and support.

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Although it would be fantastic to have natural proportion in our classrooms, the really is quite different.

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Follow through with all team members is difficult.    Getting rid of excuses why they can’t/ don’t/ couldn’t do interventions or ask for help.

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MTSS is great as long as there are specific parameters and they are being met. For example, 13 is NOT a small group but that was the average number in my small groups. Natural proportion would be nice if it was followed. The strongest teachers are given the most challenging students.

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MTSS is great as long as there are specific parameters and they are being met. For example, 13 is NOT a small group but that was the average number in my small groups. Natural proportion would be nice if it was followed. The strongest teachers are given the most challenging students.

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I find fighting for natural proportion with admin staffing difficult. 

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I find fighting for natural proportion with admin staffing difficult. 

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2. The natural proportion sounds great in idea. Would love to see it implemented everywhere.

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It is challenging to make it work seamlessly.

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Don’t eat the little green men.

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MTSS takes time to implement and all students do not learn the same.

Natural proportion is good for all teachers and students! But planning lower class sizes is needed by your stat and city!

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I need MTSS protocols. Teaches in my school do not follow the guidelines.

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Students with IEPs should be equally distributed amongst teachers and not just based on academic needs, but also behavioral needs. All behavioral needs should not be place on one teacher and special education teachers should be a part of the discussion and placement of students.

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-getting gen ed, sped, and administrative buy in to the process

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Both will only work if everyone is on board, training needs to be provided on how to work with certain kids, and we all have to have a “Can Do” attitude.

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Teachers don’t always come to MTTS prepared with data. It makes the process more frustrating for all.

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Natural proportion means we need to change our entire system

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Natural proportion means we need to change our entire system

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I believe natural proportion can be successful when you have a large school population. We only have one English only classroom and then one Spanish immersion classroom, therefore, if the special students aren’t in the elementary Spanish program they go to the English only class and that tends to have more special Ed students. When I taught in FL, we had larger grade level groups and classes, so kids could he spread out to meet natural proportion standards.

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This would be great to implement and I hope it can be made more of a priority to benefit students.

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I believe Natural Proportion is the best model for student success.

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I’ve never heard of this before today but I think it is essential for promoting a fully inclusive learning environment.

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Natural proportion needs to be a priority to create equitable and enriching learning experiences for all learners.

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Always advocate for your kids! If you don’t think your kid is in the right placement or receiving what they need, keep advocating for them.

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Natural proportion makes student caseloads for equal but I think you also have to consider equitable as well. 

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Natural proportion makes student caseloads for equal but I think you also have to consider equitable as well. 

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MTSS turns into a data collection barrier and waiting game for students who should be getting SPED support sooner.

Natural proportion sounds wonderful, but it spreads the staff too thin to cover minutes in multiple classrooms.

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Natural proportion can be difficult for scheduling. Sped teachers can’t be in 2+ places at once supporting students who are spread around the building.

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MTSS: Challenging is the collaboration, when students don't agree with each other.

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MTSS: Challenging is the collaboration, when students don't agree with each other.

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Collaboration with Staff

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Success

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Natural Proportion. I think it's great. It is good for all the students and teachers.

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Natural Proportion. I think it's great. It is good for all the students and teachers.

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To me I think ALL students should be together.

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More with kids and have connections with them.

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The challenging part of MTSS can be the collaboration piece when there isn’t follow through with all members of the team due to due to lack of communication, time or desire.

Natural proportion can be difficult with combo classes and different schedules for different grade levels.

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More time with the kids to build relationships instead of diving into instruction.

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1) The part that is most challenging about MTSS is placement.

2) I believe natural proportion is important for not just the health of the learning environment, but also normalizing (or destigmatizing) mental illness, being academically impaired, etc.

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Haven't had to be involved in those meetings.

On the proportions......sometimes it is easier to put the kids together in one class so a TA can be in there to help the sped students and be extra support for other students.

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My grandson is fantastic