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the weakest arguments is ' the history shows that bans on consumer products usually fails' because nowadays the adult also fails to ban some consumer products that they were eagerly to ban at the earlier.

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i also agree with the writer for not banning the energy drinks because as long as a person know how to take care of themselves, energy drinks should not be a problem.

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For me, the topic is very useful and it helps me to gain knowledge on caffeine. In my opinion, i disagree with the writer because energy drinks have many negative effects to us, such as heart attack, stroke, obesity and diabetes and yet there is no any evidence to prove that the chemicals that contain in the energy drinks is save and healthy to consume

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has done their part right?

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everyone

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This topic is very interesting because educate me and give me some information about energy drinks.I do not really like to drink energy drinks because I thought that consuming energy drinks are not good for health.However,I agree with the writer for not ban energy drinks.This is because if energy drinks taken moderately,this will not risk our health.

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for me, the strongest argument is history has shown that bans on consumer products usually fails. one of the examples that has given by the writer which is teenagers did not even stop smoking even they are banned for doing so and this situation still happened in today's society. i totally agree with the writer's approach which is education. this is because this teenagers should be responsible of making decision for themselves, choosing something which is not harmful for them.

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In my opinion, the strongest argument is 'Unless scientist prove that caffeine is harmful to minors, politicians should not pursue a ban on the sale of energy drinks. Energy drinks already available to all ages for many years.'

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While for the weakest argument is "FDA concluded that none of the ingredients in energy drinks is harmful when consumed to reasonable quantities". This is because this is the only result concluded by FDA and yet there is no any relevant evidence, survey or even research to support this.

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D2.In my opinion,the weakest argument is "many people believe that energy drinks contain extremely high amounts of caffeine,making them implicitly dangerous for children and teenagers."This is because that even the energy drinks do not contain excessive amounts of caffeine,but if energy drinks consumed everyday still can risk the body health.We do not know how many times or the size per serving that the teenagers take.Energy drinks can have from 80 to 138 milligrams of caffeine in 8 ounces,if they drinks three times a day and consume it everyday,potential risk associated with energy drinks such as caffeine overdose will happened.

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In my opinion, the strongest argument is ''energy drinks do not contain excessive amounts of caffeine as it has from 80 to 90 milligrams in 8 ounces only compared to an 8 ounces cup of coffee which has 165 milligrams of caffeine" because from here everything is statistically prove by data and based on the research i have read, every one cup of coffee will increase the chance of having heart attack by 60%

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As for me, this topic is very interesting for me, because before this I didn't really care about the caffeine content in any kind of drinks either coffee or energy drinks. As for me, I partially agree with the writer because over consuming energy drinks would also has side effects to human body especially for those with heart attack problems or for those parents are busy with working and haven't much attention or time on their children to educate them. While energy drinks do not contain excessive amounts of caffeine as it has from 80 to 90 milligrams in 8 ounces only compared to an 8 ounces cup of coffee which has 165 milligrams of caffeine, so why don't we ban coffee instead of energy drinks.

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then, in my opinion the weakest argument is "history has shown that bans consumer products usually fails". This is because this history only discussed about the smoking problem in the past but it doesn't means that it might has the same results when apply it on the energy drinks, furthermore there is no any statistical proof was provided in this history.

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ok, so as for my opinion, the strongest argument is "FDA approved energy drinks ingredients as safe years ago, so it should not amend its decision without scientific proof that the drinks are harmful" because this is an argument that has already proven safe years ago and caffeine is type of chemical so i believe that if chemicals that haven't been conducted on any research or proof by the scientific expert yet, might not be the truth.

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ok good one fanny

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Exercise 2 discussion

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D1. In my opinion,I think the strongest argument is "History has shown that bans consumer products usually fail."This  is because bans on  the energy drink will not make a big change.The minors still consume the energy drinks even they were restricted to take it.

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In my opinion,should be banned for Malaysian under 18.This is because teens probably drink a lot of caffeine.This will impact on school life and behaviour.

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later we discuss the exercise 2

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ok good job everyone, thank you for your participating in the argument

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so it can seem that majority of us are suggested to ban the energy drinks for Malaysian age under 18

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In my opinion, i think that energy drink should be banned for kids who are under 18 years old as this will affect the growth and development of kids as they start their puberty at the age of 12 until 18 years old

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for me , yahh it should be banned. because there are surveys on teenagers especially student which said that by consuming energy drinks, they become lazy in the class, looking tired and cant focus on their studies. so, for the sake of their future, i think energy drink should be banned.

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most children will going puberty phase at age of 12. so can tolerant with the energy drinks caffeine amount

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it is generally recommended that adults consume no more than 400 mg of caffeine per day. Energy drinks typically only contain around 80 mg of caffeine per 8 ounces (237 ml), which is pretty close to an average cup of coffee. ... Summary: Occasionally drinking one energy drink is unlikely to cause problems.

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So i have change my mind, from my opinion, it should be banned for Malaysian age under 18, because as well know age below 18 is the growing phase for most people, it is best to avoid those things like caffeine that might affects health problems, plus we do not the side effects of other chemicals inside the energy drinks would leads to any negative effects to their body or not since there is no research to proven weather it's safe to consume or not.

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my opinion, it shouldnt. because it is not alcohol. if for age under 12 yes it should.

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with reason ya

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so do you think energy drinks should be banned for malaysian age under 18?

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i got you

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ok good evidence

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so kids can tolerant with that caffeine amount

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only 47.5mg caffeine

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one pack only 19g, and 100g coffee contain only 40mg, so 19g contain?

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i drank

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for me, im not against for those who want to drink the energy drinks. ass long as he or she is healthy enough to drink that drinks.

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Hey Lung did you drink nestle coffee?

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okey okey

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we only discuss for question 1 first

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hahaha sokay

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and energy drinks

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because i scroll from up there till down here is all about kids

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Yes,Wei Lung.Its about energy drink

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oh if not about kids then okey la.

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please read carefully

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question is not only about kids

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guys make a clear mind

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Suriah,some kids like to drink energy drink.

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isnt milk is enough?

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plus, why do kids need to drink energy drinks?

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so, the amount of caffein is much more than drink coffee

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because our main point now is energy drink and kids

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no, i mean in the video, she said that most of the energy drink also contain guarana plant. it seed contain double the amount of caffeine in the coffe beans.

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i think you can do a research on whether kids drink coffee or not then only you compare energy drink with coffee

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but she also mentioned that there is no research yet to proven it would have negative effects if caffeine reacts with those things

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ya, it does contain other ingredients or even chemical as well

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according to the research done by Epidemiology, 1-2 cups of coffee will increase the chance having heart attack by 60%

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but Lung, the video said that in the energy drink does  not contain just a caffeine only.

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so it's not point to ban the energy drinks

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how many grams are you using

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try to think for that, if you are making coffee

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while one can of energy drinks will only have 114mg caffeine

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u know every 100gram of coffee will have 40mg of caffeine

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I see your point

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video only advice not to drink more than that amount but didn't mentioned it how much caffeine does it has

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but u know how much caffeine was them?

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It is true that you can control to not drink to much.However there are some people addicted with energy drink and can consume in large quantity

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Yin, video on said that not to more than for those thing

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yaa i agree with you wei lung

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it is all about human own responsibility

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Another word, as from what you said just now, they like to add in chocolate in their drinks, ok i mention one more time, the caffeine contain in chocolate is around 0-20mg and coffee is 40mg, plus altogether will not over the limit whisch is 105mg ya

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i think it has not necessary to ban for it

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and you can control yourself not to drink to much on it

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it's cheaper

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you only choice is energy drinks

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that's right yin based on the situation i have given just now

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I do not think that kids love starbuck a lot, as the price is costly and it will be a burden for kids to buy those drinks

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okay.

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that's mean there is no age range limitation

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the question doesn't mentioned for kids only

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ya fanny but please read carefully question 1

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It is okay if adult consume the drinks,but not suitable for kids

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and it's much more expensive as well compared to energy drinks

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Starbucks is a combination of everything including chocolate coffee and even tea

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Yin, how about starbucks, i think kids nowadays like starbucks so much

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that's why now on market, there is different size of energy drinks, u got me?

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Guys sorry im late. just finish eating. how far already i left behind?

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ya fanny

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coffee, chocolate can provide us extra energy right?

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But athlete need taking energy drinks for minimum energy .different with non athlete.

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just to make a clear mind

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when compared to coffee

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nurain any kinds since there is lot of kinds of energy drinks

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i mean not all brands contains the same amount of caffeine or sugar

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Usually kids do not drink coffee as it taste bitter for them and by the way, the common coffee contains only 40mg

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if you're not controlling yourself from taking chocolate will it leads to obesity?

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what types of brand energy drinks we talk here ?