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Seems like a brilliant guy.

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A lot of these arguments against killing babies also oppose abortion? Where do you draw the line?

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What Singer says about babies being less of a person than us seems to make logical sense but obviously our evolutionary instincts are horrified by this idea. If we choose to make decisions based on these logical ideas, which may be correct, are we removing ourselves too far from our instincts and is this dangerous?

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Human exceptionaism comes about from the fact that we are bound to our own perspectives. We do not know that the experiences of other creatures are manifestly different to our own, we just have no understanding of them. We are perfectly happy to kill animals, even extremely intelligent animals like pigs and dolphins.

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Ethics is so not science. Subjective experiences extrapolated as if they are universal. Nah fam.

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Ethics is so not science. Subjective experiences extrapolated as if they are universal. Nah fam.

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give it a chance, could be the next steve jobs

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The man who was talking against Singer in the film, he was wrong - he was saying that singer was okay with the death of a newborn, even a healthy one - but that's not the case - a healthy newborn would never cause more unhappiness than happiness, so singer would never say it was alright to kill it

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It makes no sense to equate the positive activity of killing a baby with failing to intervene with the natural processes that occur to a baby whose body is incompatible with life. The notion of "aliveness" is utterly arbitrary, both in determining it, and the decision to use it as the lynchpin in a decision to withdraw care.

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Should not be applied to all situations. Does not feel 'universal'.

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He has a god complex

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What would the role of "power" have in this?

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If he becomes disabled and unloved, does it mean his life has no meaning too?

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You know the rules, and so do I

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In Australia we have DNR which is essentially passive euthanasia. Passive vs. active does make a difference
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I think part of our repulsion to the idea of "killing" vs "withdrawing life support" is partly due to the emotional response linked to the word "kill" - it contains connotations of malice, that we are not trying to convey when we withdraw life support

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It's not just a question of which ethical theory is right

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It's not just a question of which ethical theory is right

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It's a question of how far you push it

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Peter Singer said without consciousness, a human being has no more value than a chimp or a dog. Is this true?

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Does Peter Singer not see a difference because he's not the one delivering the injection?

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Arguing morality in infanticide and whether a patient is still "alive" for the greater good is very interesting, but i suppose it boils down to whether the action of "pulling the plug" could be done without feeling some sort of guilt.

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Baby don't hurt me

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Inaction is morally equivalent to a particular action with the same outcome

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Inaction is morally equivalent to a particular action with the same outcome

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At what point does resource limitation determine who lives and who dies?

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who decides when a person has lost what makes them a person?

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who decides when a person has lost what makes them a person?

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When a person has lost all capacity to continue their in life in a meaningful way, would that be considered as their life is no longer worth living. If they have absolutely no chance of returning to a normal life then I suppose yes

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Is delivering a lethal injection really the same as withdrawing life support?

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Is delivering a lethal injection really the same as withdrawing life support?

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Actively killing a child w a lethal injection is different from removing ventillators(passive)

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If people are thinking his ideals are to just 'kill babies' without interpreting the individual cases, of course they will be up in arms that he is a nazi.
However in a certain case of a neonate with a clear genetic or somatic problem that will diminish their quality of life, then the best outcomes come with killing the baby. (saying killing the baby sounds really harsh) lethal injection vs withdrawal of care doesn't seem difference as they are both a n intervening action with the same outcome.

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I think it depends on what you classify as 'alive' which decides whether a live should be prolonged. Is there an inherent quality that one must possess to be classified as being alive and having a life worthy of living? Is just the fact that you're human enough to warrant continuation of life? Is there a minimal level of life quality that would justify this? Kant reckons the former but Bantham/Singer reckons the latter.

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Etiquette of living

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It's unethical to have classes during march madness

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It's unethical to have classes during march madness

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individual's character is the key element of ethical thinking

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Generally makes sense, but not always the lens we think through

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Habits accepted as doing good

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How to be a good person in general.  Excesses and deficits - rule of the mean.  Good virtues for medicine include compassion, integrity and effacement of self-interest.

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I'm really enjoying learning about ethics.

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I'm really enjoying learning about ethics.

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Welcome to the MEDI7131 Padlet wall!  I hope that using this application will facilitate discussion during our lecture times.  Feel free to try it out before class.

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Welcome to the MEDI7131 Padlet wall!  I hope that using this application will facilitate discussion during our lecture times.  Feel free to try it out before class.