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Neoliberalism says that we have to put a price on everything in the world

There are a lot of loopholes

Difficult to put monetary values on parts of the world because the power is still in large corporations

Based on who has power, things are valued differently

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Ethical ideas of neoliberalization of nature ?

Some countries have tried to resocialize economies

cultural and behavior ideas

so hard to change values --> education! Narrative shift from childhood in commons (share with each other) to individualism when they become consumers

Green villages as system to intertwine humans with nature with close relationship

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-What does Bakker claim to be primary ideas of the Neoliberalization of Nature? Do you agree with her ideas for how to counter this neoliberalization and resocialize our economies?

-Is it possible for private ownership to be a solution to our environmental crisis?

-Is it ethical for private ownership to be solution to our environmental crisis?

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strength of capitalism is that it forces people to feel helpless

hard to visualize and understand

no immediate solution

local movements are easier to be built around same ideas

for a movement to carry long-term effects, must have social capital

public spacing and housing for ALL (commons) as supplement to people with shared background (affinity groups)

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Protest seems to be losing its weight and meaning in our society

People are very stuck on their own side and don't really pay attention to opposing ones

Protests may not be enough to change the bigger social changes that need to be made

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How does neoliberalization stifle protest?

We are so individualized and non-collectivist that protest is so much more difficult in the US than other countries

"Government stability" is a measure of the governments ability to maintain the status quo

Why is the United States so okay with our low access to basic needs? (healthcare)

We are so convinced that the free market and privatization is more "efficient" than government programs

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new commodity could create other inequalities

how to regulate control over new currency? how to ensure community?

who is driving this currency? can it be an act of resistance?

communities in france with local currency, communal money becomes glue --> forced people to depend on each other at local level

everyone has high stakes for solution, which distributes risk

meaning of word community shifts

creating local change for community

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Proposal seems impossible to implement

People are divided

There is a separation between what we see in sci-fi and fantasy versus the real world

People are very attached to a system based on money/ they put a lot of power on money

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Great solution to the Plantationocene because it changes our perception of agriculture from something that happens far away to a community endeavor

Community building, people will care more for the environment directly around them

Degrowth

Americans are so opposed to it, we exist in a system of "perpetual" growth

How can we convince people to think about it differently? Where would this be implemented?

"Clumsy solution"

Looks a lot like "farm to table" but as a policy

Issue: we can pass this into law but how can we get people to "buy into" it?

Responding to 2nd Question: This will always happen under capitalism

Money as a glue instead of an acid; the value of the community cohesion would be greater than the cost of the transactions

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Term plantationocene is a bit too broad, lessens the severity of our history

Plantations are mono cropped, stopping social and ecological diversity

Finding a balance between sharing stories that create fear and sharing stories that create hope

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"Anyone who can get away from Plantation will"

More explicit in representing systems

every plantationocene is different, cannot use term universally

Is the way of addressing plantation as a system U.S centric?

Slavery to other life beings still counts as slavery --> controlling, oppressing systems in nature

Tree is not property, but relationship

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What is a do good interspecies relationships look like?

Plantation agriculture is essentially turning species into singular "producers" which limits biodiversity and stifles plant community

How do we shift from this to a better relationship with our food?

Food production for self and community sustenance instead of profit

We need the power structures that control society to recognize humans as part of SES rather than above them

The plantationocene and anthropocene are rhetorics about moral reasoning instead of descriptors

The act of "controlling"

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-How did Robbins & Dowty's Chapter 11 make you feel about the effectiveness of protest? Would protest be more effective if targeted at the bigger, root problems of our socio-economic structures? Or less effective?

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-Do you resonate with the term Plantationocene?

-How might this term resonate with different people (the powerful versus the vulnerable/powerless)?

-After reading Haraway, do you feel more or less hopeless than before reading?

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-Do you think Hornborg's proposal to design money could be effective in the long-run? Why or why not?

-Is underpayment and the exploitation of land and labor inevitable to the use of general-purpose money?

-Can you think of any examples of policies (proposed or implemented) in the U.S. that are similar to Hornborg's local currency idea? How does it relate to FDR's "Freedom from want" idea?