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Geek Dave checks out some proposed Caped Crusader movies that never saw the light of day.

Last time we looked at 6 Batman projects from the 70s and 80s that never ended up being produced ( you can read that here), that was the years between the end of the Adam West starring TV show and the premiere of the Michael Keaton starring movie.

Well we all know how those movies went, with the fourth one being Joel Schumacher's 1997 Bat-travesty, "Batman and Robin". So let's look at the years between that and the Dark Knight's big screen return in Christopher Nolan's 2005 movie, Batman Begins. Starting with...

1. Batman Triumphant
George Clooney very nearly wore the cowl for a second adventure, because in 1997 this movie was actually green lit!

And then on the 20th June Batman and Robin was released, and that idea quickly changed.

In what would've been Joel Schumacher's third Batman movie, Clooney, Chris O'Donnell and Alicia Silverstone would all have returned. It was hoped to attract Madonna to the part of Harley Quinn, she would be seeking vengeance for the death of her father, The Joker. The other big-bad of the film would've been the Scarecrow, both Nicolas Cage and Jeff Goldblum were being considered for the part. A script was written by Mark Protosevich (who recently penned Thor), and Schumacher had hoped to make this installment darker than the previous one. It's doubtful that he would've succeeded as Warner Bros. wanted the franchise to me more kid friendly so they could sell more merchandise. Who cares about artistic integrity when you've got shelf-loads of action figures to shift, eh?

But Schumacher didn't give up hope...

2. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns
After Batman Triumphant was officially canned, Joel Schumacher went to Warner Bros. and as good as pleaded with them to let him make a live action film version of Frank Miller's graphic novel, The Dark Knight Returns. It wasn't the first time he'd approached them about this, as he'd first hoped to make this move instead of Batman and Robin, as he revealed:

"I think I'm the most envious of Chris Nolan because he got to do The Dark Knight - and that's the one I begged to do as my second Batman film. I wanted to do a whole other thing, because we had kind of re-invented franchise with Val as Batman and it was a very young, sexy, and much less expensive movie. We brought in Robin and I wanted to make The Dark Knight desperately, but the studio didn't want that and it's their money and they're my bosses."

This time however, Warner Bros. did listen to his pitch and seriously considered it. Both sides agreed that ideally they like to lure Michael Keaton back to the role, but if that wasn't possible then Clint Eastwood would've been approached. For the second time the person attached to the role of the Joker was that of David Bowie, any excuse to use this picture again...

...but it never got past the discussion stage, because Warner Bros. had a different idea...

3. Batman: Darknight
Possibly so they didn't have to pay Frank Miller, Warner Bros. decided to create their own aged darker Batman story on the cheap, hiring rookie writers Lee Shapiro and Stephen Wise to craft a potential third Schumacher tale.

In Batman: Darknight, Bruce Wayne would've left Gotham behind after realising that his greatest weapon over his enemies, fear, had been lost - maybe they'd all seen Batman and Robin! Dick Grayson would've been at Gotham University, where a pre-Scarecrow Professor Jonathan Crane was using his students as guinea pigs to test out his fear toxins. The film would've also introduced Man-Bat, who would've been mistaken for the Caped Crusader gone bad, meaning the real thing would have to come out of retirement, restore his name and save the day.

The project fell apart when Warner Bros. considered an even cheaper option of bringing the Dark Knight back to the big screen...

4. Batman Beyond
The animated series ran for three seasons and was doing pretty well on TV, so in October 1999 a movie version was put into production. The TV show creators Paul Dini and Alan Burnet penned the script, and Boaz Yakin was hired as director. Creative differences saw the project never fully get off the ground, Warner Bros. still wanted a kid friendly Batman, whereas Yakin wanted to make a gritty profanity filled adult animated movie.

In August 2001 the project was officially canned in favour of another comic book adaptation...

5. Batman: Year One
In September 2000, Joel Schumacher attempted another Batman movie pitch. This time instead of an older Batman he wanted to go back to the start with Frank Miller's classic Batman: Year One comic book as the source. His idea was to act as a prequel to the 1989 Tim Burton movie, so linking this film in with the ones that had gone before, and Warner loved the idea - however they didn't like the idea of Schumacher returning as director. So they hired Darren Aronofsky instead.

Once Batman Beyond was shelved names started to become attached to the project including both Ben Affleck and Christian Bale as possible Bruce Wayne's/Batman's, and Aaron Eckhart apparently attached as Jim Gordon.

Frank Miller was approached to adapt his comic book, and adapt it he did! Apparently his new script included Bruce Wayne as an orphan on the streets of Gotham, stripped of his fortune and taken in like Oliver Twist by an Alfred surrogate called Big Al, who ran an autoshop with his son, Little Al. Selina Kyle also featured as a young prostitute. Warner Bros. didn't like it, and decided to start from scratch again...

6. Batman: Year One (version two)
Unbeknown to Darren Aronofsky, Warner Bros. were attempting to lure the Wachowski's to the Batman project - they even wrote a script for their take on Batman: Year One. It was much more like Frank Miller's original comic book, and Warners were very pleased with it, so much so that it's likely this would've gone into production if the Wachowski's hadn't have got the green light to make the two Matrix sequels.

Still not 100% convinced with Aronofsky's project (which was currently being story boarded) Warner Bros. entertained another idea...

7. Batman vs Superman
I've written about this potential Wolfgang Peterson movie on the unmade Superman movies list, so I won't repeat it all again ( you can read that article here), except for to say that Warner's went so far as to show Christian Bale the script in the hope he'd sign up. He said he much preferred Darren Aronofsky's treatment, but by the end of 2002 Aronofsky's days were numbered...

8. Batman: Year One (version three)
After Aronofsky project was shelved, Joss Whedon was approached to write and direct a new version of Year One. He would later reveal that his idea was similar in tone to Batman Begins, but admitted that his was "a bit less epic" and didn't focus as much on Bruce Wayne's traveling outside of Gotham.

Whedon also revealed that he had created a new villain for the movie, a Hannibal Lector type character who Wayne would've visited in Arkham Asylum to learn about the mind of a criminal. It was clearly a project dear to Whedon's heart:

"I get very emotional about it, I still love the story. Maybe I'll get to do it as a comic one day."

As we all know, Warner Bros. didn't go for the treatment. Instead, in January 2003 they turned to a British writer/director who'd just had success with the film Memento. That man was Christopher Nolan, and the rest is movie history.

Previously
6 Unmade Live-Action Batman Projects
6 Unmade Superman Movies

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Sam: In this video the creator goes into detail on which DC comic book adaptations work and take inspiration from an explains which Batman medias work as well.

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The New Batman Adventures: "Legends of The Dark Knight"

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25 years have passed since Batman: The Animated Series debuted in 1992, arguably changing the landscape for comic book superhero storytelling for good. Though we've seen various iterations of the Dark Knight in animated, live-action, and video game form since then, few come close to matching The Animated Series in quality and universal acclaim.

Developed by Bruce Timm and Eric Radomski, Batman: The Animated Series marked a significant departure away from the character's previous campy tones on TV and instead crafted a darker, more complex version of Batman tailored towards a modern audience. Borrowing from film noir allowed the series to be serious and artistic while also showcasing Batman's odd assortment of villains.

Batman: The Animated Series did more to distinguish Batman as a hero worth paying attention to amidst a growing pantheon of godlike heroes than any other version of the character. The fact that it did so while including the Dark Knight's goofy and often fantastically superpowered enemies made it that much more impressive.

The series originally aired weekday afternoons at 4:30 p.m., catering towards a younger-aged audience, but it also had a brief stint during Sunday evening primetime, which only proved that Batman: The Animated Series has always been a series beloved by fans of all ages.

Here are six times that Batman: The Animated Series proved itself as the best depiction of Batman ever:

1. Opening Sequence

One of the best things that Batman: The Animated Series had going for it was an impressive orchestral score done by Shirley Walker. She had experience with feature-length motion pictures and even the live-action TV adaptation of that aired in the '90s.

Danny Elfman is credited on the iconic "Main Title" track that plays over the opening credits, but almost the entirety of the remaining score was composed by Walker. The music did more to establish the darker, more heroic tone of the series than anything else, and it's largely why many still regarded

Harley Quinn is having a moment right now. Margot Robbie starred as Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad and the animated Batman and Harley Quinn also focused on the character. She's also taken a central role in games like Injustice 2. The clownish love interest to The Joker has outshined her beloved "mistah jay" in these properties. It's sometimes easy to forget that Harley actually made her debut in Batman: The Animated Series in September 1992 during the episode "Joker's Favor," before making her way into comics and the various other mediums.

What was initially a one-off walk-on role for actress Arleen Sorkin expanded astronomically over the last 25 years.

3. Showcasing Mark Hamill's Version of The Joker

Other than playing the hero in the original and wildly successful trilogy, Mark Hamill's next-greatest role is undoubtedly in lending his voice to Batman's principal villain: The Joker.

The character has seen a number of different iterations in various films - including Heath Ledger's renowned turn as the character - but still, Hamill's Joker remains the definitive version of the Clown Prince of Crime.

4. Including Batman's Weirder, Darker Villains Like the Man-Bat

The very first episode of The Animated Series, "On Leather Wings," forcibly differentiated the show from what fans typically expected of the Dark Knight. Batman's relationship with the police isn't very positive, and the very first story sees him grapple with the horrific Man-Bat. It establishes The Animated Series as a darker kind of superhero story that strikes a pitch perfect tone between noir and gothic without falling into the more recent "darker, grittier, more boring" trend.

Somehow, Man-Bat works in this universe, but it never could in the DCEU. The Animated Series leans heavily into themes and grapples with Bruce's sense of humanity. Nowhere does that inner conflict become a greater focus than when he literally grapples with a physical manifestation of his own fears in the Man-Bat.

5. The Animated Series Fixed Mr. Freeze

"Heart of Ice" offers up a less campy and much scarier costume design for Mr. Freeze while also providing a tragic backstory for the character. In this way, Batman: The Animated Series fixed a weird Batman villain that nobody really cared about by rebuilding him entirely. Mr. Freeze went from the weird fishbowl-headed guy with an ice gun to a frigid, ruthless Terminator. (It's all too fitting that Arnold Schwarzenegger would play the character in Batman & Robin.)

The Animated Series may have created Harley Quinn, but it did almost as much in its complete rebuild of Mr. Freeze.

6. Establishing Clayface as a Fearsome Villain

Few villains from Batman: The Animated Series remain more prominent all these years later than the horrific Clayface. Like many of Batman's villains, Matt Hagen has a tragic story that turned him into an amorphous, humanoid clay-person during the "Feat of Clay" two-parter.

The creativity behind the character's animation only enhances how fearsome he is as an adversary, serving as a reminder to Batman's own physical limitations. Like the Man-Bat, Clayface is a harder villain to adapt to the big screen, but the way he works in the dark, fantastical universe of DC Animated films represents the Batman franchise at its very best.

Must Read: "Power Ranking The Best 'Batman: The Animated Series' Episodes"

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6 Times 'Batman: The Animated' Series Was the Best Batman Ever

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One of the weirder things Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns inspired.

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"Mr. Connare says he pulled out the two comic books he had in his office, "The Dark Knight Returns" and "Watchmen," and got to work, inspired by the lettering and using his mouse to draw on a computer screen. Within a week, he had designed his legacy."

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Information on the myth that JLA: Tower of Babel is named after.

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http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0111.htm

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Tower of Babel, in biblical literature, structure built in the land of Shinar (Babylonia) some time after the Deluge. The story of its construction, given in Genesis 11:1–9, appears to be an attempt to explain the existence of diverse human languages. According to Genesis, the Babylonians wanted…

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Additional Information on Batman from DC Comics' official website. This is a quick run-down of his history, spanning 75+ Years.

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It's Batman's 75 Anniversary, and between his upcoming adventures on the big screen (in the now filming Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice), small screen (as a young boy in this fall's Gotham), video game consoles (in Batman: Arkham Knight and LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham), animation ( Batman: Assault on Arkham) and multiple ongoing comic books (including his very first weekly, Batman Eternal), it's going to be a big couple of years for the Dark Knight. But that's okay, he's used to it. In fact, his entire history has been full of big moments!

In honor of this year's milestone anniversary, as well as this week's upcoming "Batman Day," join us as we journey through generations, with a look at a few highlights from a truly remarkable life.
1939
In 1939, National Comics (later to become DC Comics), was looking for a new super hero-a character who could build on the success of Superman. Editor Vin Sullivan turned to what appeared to be an unlikely creative source, gag cartoonist Bob Kane, and asked him to design a new hero. Kane conceived one of the most popular and enduring characters of the twentieth century-The Batman. The first Batman story, "The Case of the Chemical Syndicate," was written by Bill Finger and drawn by Kane. It was published in Detective Comics #27, which hit newsstands on March 30, 1939 (cover date: May 1939).

In his first story, Batman was introduced as bored socialite Bruce Wayne. Donning his iconic costume, he became a ruthless crime-fighter who dispatched thugs with grim satisfaction. "A fitting end for his kind," Batman announced, after knocking a criminal into a vat of acid.

Batman utilized his Utility Belt for the first time to remove a glass pellet filled with deadly gas in Detective Comics #29 (July 1939). The first boomerang-like Batarang and the first bat-themed vehicle, the Batplane, made their debuts in Detective Comics #31 (September 1939).

Batman's tragic origin story, in which a mugger guns down Bruce Wayne's parents as the family walks home from a movie, was introduced six months after his debut, in Detective Comics #33 (November 1939).
1940s
The Dynamic Duo was born in Detective Comics #38 (April 1940) with the introduction of Batman's trusty sidekick, Robin the Boy Wonder. Dick Grayson was a circus performer who was orphaned when a gangster murdered his parents. After Batman teamed up with Robin, the tone of the stories changed. No longer a grim avenger who talked to himself, Batman evolved into a lighthearted father-figure trading wisecracks with his young partner.

Originally, Bob Kane agreed to try out Robin for just one issue, as DC's publisher Jack Liebowitz was against the idea of having a youngster fighting gangsters. After sales doubled on the first issue to feature the Boy Wonder, Liebowitz sheepishly agreed to keep Robin in future stories.

Batman earned his own self-titled comic book in 1940, while continuing to be featured in Detective Comics. Batman #1 (Spring 1940) was notable not only for introducing two of his most formidable antagonists, the Joker and Catwoman (here referred to as "The Cat"), but for a story in which Batman used a machine gun to shoot monsters. That story prompted editor Whitney Ellsworth to decree that Batman would no longer kill or use a gun.

Many other key pieces of Batman's world were introduced in the 1940s. Batman's home of Gotham City was first named in Detective Comics #48 in 1940, and the Batcave was introduced in Batman #12 in 1942. Batman's first car was an ordinary red sedan, but in Batman #5 (Spring 1941) the new Batmobile roared into action sporting its own bat-headed battering ram.

Batman and Robin declared that they didn't need a butler, but when Alfred Beagle (later changed to Pennyworth) discovered their secret identities and thwarted a gang of international crooks in 1943, he became one of their most loyal allies.

During the 1940s, the tone of the Batman stories grew more fanciful. The Joker became less of a sinister killer and more of a dangerous prankster. Batman and Robin journeyed to ancient Rome in their first time-travel adventure in 1944. Batman even found an enduring love interest when photo-journalist Vicki Vale was introduced in 1948.
1950s
Batman stories became somewhat bizarre during the 1950s. Batman became an unlikely science-fiction star, regularly battling space-aliens and robots. In one unusual transformation, he even became "Zebra Batman," a radioactive, black-and-white-striped menace to Gotham City. An entire Bat-Family of characters was added to the comics, including Batwoman, Bat-Girl, a magical imp named Bat-Mite, and even Ace the Bat-Hound, a crime-fighting dog that wore a mask.

A popular 1954 book called Seduction of the Innocent linked comic books and juvenile delinquency, leading to calls for censorship. DC's comics were far tamer than the gory horror comics from other publishers, but there was a clean-up campaign at DC for some of the characters. Catwoman, whose dress had been slit up to her thigh, stopped appearing in Batman stories in 1954 and didn't return in a new story until 1966.

Batman and Superman had been honorary members of the Justice Society of America in the 1940s, but it wasn't until the 1952 story "The Mightiest Team in the World" that they joined together in an unofficial partnership to fight crime. In that first story, Batman and Superman fought for the attention of Lois Lane-a competition won by Robin, to the surprise of both heroes.
1960s
To defeat the alien starfish Starro the Conquerer, Batman joined the Justice League of America in The Brave and the Bold #28 (February 1960), fighting alongside team members Wonder Woman, Flash, Superman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern.

By 1964, sales of Batman and Detective Comics were sinking, and they were in danger of being canceled. To stem the slide in sales, the books were assigned to editor Julie Schwartz, who ushered in a "New Look" for Batman. Changes included a yellow oval around the bat on the hero's chest, a new Batmobile, and a hotline to police headquarters. Batwoman, Ace, and Bat-Mite were retired, and the focus turned to detective stories. Faithful butler Alfred was killed off, and Dick Grayson's Aunt Harriet came to live with Bruce and Dick.

The campy, colorful Batman television series starring Adam West and Burt Ward made its debut on January 12, 1966. A huge ratings success that aired with two new episodes every week, the show spawned an unprecedented number of tie-in toys and merchandise, and it also inspired a new generation of Batman fans. Sales of the Batman comics soared.

Created at the request of the Batman TV show producers, a new Batgirl made her debut in Detective Comics #359 in 1967. She was revealed as the teenage daughter of Gotham City's police commissioner James Gordon, who never knew that Barbara snuck out every night to fight crime. Luckily, she always made it home in time to pursue her studies in forensic psychology.

After the Batman TV series was canceled in 1968, sales of the comics fell again. In Batman #217 in 1969, Dick Grayson left for college, and Bruce Wayne closed Wayne Manor in favor of a penthouse apartment, the first step in a move to reestablish a "back-to-basics" atmosphere for the character.
1970s
In the early 1970s, the Joker and the rest of the Rogues Gallery were out of the picture, at least for a while. Batman operated alone and relied on his wits, solving mysteries and fighting street thugs in back alleys. He had returned to his original incarnation: a shadowy figure haunting Gotham by night and striking fear into the hearts of criminals.

1971 saw the arrival of the mysterious and all-knowing villain Ra's al Ghul in Batman #232, written by Dennis O'Neil and drawn by Neal Adams. Over the next years, Ra's al Ghul would develop into a world-class threat.

Batman returned to television when The New Adventures of Batman animated series premiered on February 10, 1971, featuring the voices of Adam West and Burt Ward as the Dynamic Duo. The series continued airing under different names until 1981.
1980s
Detective Comics #526 in 1981 saw the introduction of an orphan named Jason Todd. One year later, in Batman #368, Dick Grayson retired as Robin, and Jason Todd adopted the name.

In 1986, the four-issue series Batman: The Dark Knight, by Frank Miller and Klaus Janson, redefined the hero as an older, tougher warrior coming out of retirement to reclaim Gotham City from criminals who had overtaken it. It also introduced the first female Robin. As Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, it became the first DC story arc to be collected in book form and has remained continuously in print.

Also in 1986, Frank Miller and artist David Mazzucchelli collaborated to update Batman's origin story in Batman #404-407. The book collecting those stories, Batman: Year One, was another best-selling title.

Tragedy and death touched Batman in 1988. Alan Moore and Brian Bolland's Batman: The Killing Joke was a nightmarish story about the Joker shooting Barbara Gordon and leaving her for dead. That same year, DC allowed readers to vote on the fate of Jason Todd, the second Robin. The readers voted "thumbs-down," and as a result Todd lost his life in an explosion caused by the Joker.

Batmania hit the public again when Tim Burton's Batman movie premiered in 1989 with Michael Keaton in the title role and Jack Nicholson as the Joker.

In the comics, Batman began exhibiting an excessive, reckless approach fighting crime, a result of the pain of losing Jason Todd. Batman worked solo until the decade's close, when Tim Drake became the third Robin.
1990s
In 1992, Batman Returns featured the return of Michael Keaton as the Dark Knight, facing off against Danny DeVito and Michelle Pfeiffer as the Penguin and Catwoman. That same year, Batman: The Animated Series made it debut on TV. A critical and popular success, the series continued under a variety of names for most of the decade.

In 1993, DC published the "Knightfall" storyline, which culminated when the ruthless villain Bane broke Batman's back. An anti-hero named Azrael became the new Batman, and Catwoman and Robin got ongoing comic book series of their own.

Batman and Gotham City faced catastrophe in the decade's closing crossover arcs. In the "Cataclysm" storyline, Gotham City was devastated by an earthquake and cut off from the United States Government. Deprived of many of his technological resources, Batman fought to reclaim the city from gangs of criminals during the 1999 "No Man's Land" storyline.
2000s
The 12-part "Hush" story in 2003 by writer Jeph Loeb and artist Jim Lee brought new energy and a huge audience to the Batman title. The story featured an array of the Dark Knight's worst foes and introduced the bandaged Hush, revealed to be a figure from Bruce Wayne's childhood.

In 2005, Christian Bale starred in Batman Begins, a film directed by Christopher Nolan. The film explored the origins of the Dark Knight and his emergence as a force for good in Gotham City. The 2008 follow-up, The Dark Knight, featured an Oscar-winning performance by Heath Ledger and became one of the highest-grossing movies of all time.

From the 1980s onward, DC published special crossover events that often had "crisis" in the title. The 2008-2009 crossover Final Crisis shocked readers by offering up what appeared to be the death of Batman after he fought the godlike villain Darkseid. With Bruce Wayne presumed dead, Dick Grayson became the new Batman.

In 2009, the Batman: Arkham Asylum video game became one of the best-selling and best-reviewed console games of all time.

In 2010, it was revealed that Darkseid had not killed Batman; instead, Bruce Wayne had become lost in time. Although Wayne eventually returned to the present day and reclaimed the mantle of Batman, he also allowed Dick Grayson to continue being Batman as well.

DC Comics hit the "reset" button in 2011 on Batman, Detective Comics and all the super-hero titles, starting them over as #1 issues in the company's "New 52" relaunch.

In 2014, writer Scott Synder and artist Greg Capullo updated Batman's origin story for the first time in 25 years in the new Batman: Zero Year storyline.

Oh, and remember that comic, Detective Comics #27? The one that introduced Batman to the world and kickstarted 75 years of amazing comic book, movie, TV and video game adventures? A copy of it sold for $1.07 million in 2012.

Then if you're going to Comic-Con, you can look forward to not one, not two, but three special Batman 75th Anniversary panels. Join Frank Miller, Jim Lee, Scott Snyder, Greg Capullo, Geoff Johns, Grant Morrison, Denny O'Neill and Neal Adams in an in-depth discussion of the Dark Knight's life on the comic page in Batman 75: Legends of the Dark Knight, taking place on Thursday, July 24 from 3:30-4:30 pm in Room 6BCF. Saturday morning, your Bat-knowledge will get put to the test in the ultimate Batman trivia contest: Batman 75: Riddle Me This!, taking place on July 26 from 10-11 am in Room 6DE. Oh, and did we mention prizes are on the line? Finally, don't miss the once-in-a-lifetime chance to witness Jim Lee, Geoff Johns, Ralph Garman, Kevin Conroy, Paul Dini and Senior Vice President, Creative Affairs, Warner Bros Animation Peter Girardi all together on stage to discuss the Dark Knight's legacy in pop culture in Batman 75th Anniversary, happening on Saturday, July 26 from 4-5 pm in Room 6BCF. And that's just the start! for even more Batman events taking place at Comic-Con. If you're a Batman fan, you're in for a good week. This week, hundreds of comic shops, bookstores and libraries will celebrate "Batman Day," a celebration of all things Dark Knight.

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A Salon Article that goes into how the 1989 rendition of the caped crusader influenced the movie industry as a whole. This will be mentioned in last episode of the podcast.

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A ten-year Salon reader, Mendelson also has a film and politics blog/column at Mendelon's Memos: located at: http://scottalanmendelson.blogspot.com/. He is also a free lance voice over artist and occasionally contributes film reviews for www.ValleySceneMagazine.com.

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Sam: The shot from The Dark Knight is clearly inspired from The Long Halloween

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Sam: This video goes in depth on why the gaslight adaptation works and improves on the original graphic novel

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Batman: The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale often figures on lists of the greatest Batman books ever written, and is frequently touted as one of the first books anyone wanting to get into Batman should read. It is a book that, bafflingly, has a lot of fans which I can only attribute to new readers to Batman/comics reading it and, having little to compare it to, believe they€™ve read something great. That or the many fans claiming this as one of the greatest Batman books of all time simply have no taste! Either way, it is definitely a very poor Batman book whose acclaimed status also makes it the most overrated Batman book ever. So what€™s it about? The Long Halloween is set after the events of Year One in the early days of Batman with Bruce still learning how to be the Dark Knight. Someone begins murdering mobsters on each holiday €" Easter, April Fool€™s Day, etc. €" earning the murderer the name the Holiday Killer. Meanwhile ambitious district attorney Harvey Dent begins his crusade against the city€™s most notorious mob boss, Carmine €œThe Roman€ Falcone, and Batman€™s rogues escape Arkham Asylum to cause mayhem in Gotham. It takes the combined efforts of Batman, Jim Gordon and Harvey Dent over a year to catch the Holiday Killer and everything that leads to the killer€™s arrest, including the reveal of Holiday€™s identity, is nonsensical and/or stupid. Here are 7 reasons why The Long Halloween is the most overrated Batman book ever.

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This uses a camera facing the presenters while they capture the screen and overlay on to the camera. This layout doesn't really work for us as we have too many visual elements. If we were focused more on the audio elements, This layout, while cluttered, could have been good enough.

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Red Letter Media's discussion/review on various films. This is an example of a 3-camera layout used in a similar way to what we are doing.

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Sam: An example of Batman showing his human side is in the thanksgiving segment in which Batman leaves Grundy a meal

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Kyle: In the podcast I tried using the whole Court of Owls mythos to help with the world building within Gotham. I also tried to use the nursery rhyme to help prove that it helped build the world up more:

"Beware The Court of Owls, that watches all the time, ruling Gotham from a shadow perch, behind granite and lime. They watch you at your hearth, they watch you in your bed, speak not a whispered word of them or they'll send The Talon for your head."

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Sam: The reviews and positive feedback of the animated adaption of the Gotham by Gaslight comic

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Set in the Victorian era, this animated remake of the graphic novel, Batman: Gotham by Gaslight pits the Dark Knight detective against the elusive serial killer, Jack the Ripper. Directed by Sam Liu and featuring the voices of Bruce Greenwood and Jennifer Carpenter as Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle respectively.

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Sam: Gas light is able to take it's time period and use the mindset to add to the jack the ripper plot with the public seeing women as inferior, especially ripper's targets. It also allows foe Selina to grow as a character.

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Sam: The comic of gaslights views on the situation are told through the use of victorian newspapers

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Sam: the long halloween shows it's influence from other sources of media such as the godfather influence on the falcones

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Kyle: In the 3rd episode I had to talk about the comic book story named the Court of Owls.

I did my research by reading the comic and noting things down in my head.

It was quite difficult to argue against Sam as he was using The Long Halloween which is just miles better then Court of Owls.

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Sam: Batman and Catwoman's relationship in the long halloween is developed in order to help show a more human side to both characters and well they both work with and without masks

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Sam: The shift towards the gang wars to the villains is shown in the long halloween

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Sam: references to other batman media such as the animated series

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Sam: A large amount of rotating foes for Batman to face

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Sam: inspiration the dark knight would take from

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Sam: An example of the else world story twisting traditional characters into a new role in order to surpass long time fans.

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Confronting the Ripper | Batman: Gotham by Gaslight

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Sam: An example of phantasm taking the story in a new direction would be this sense from phantasm in which Batman finds happiness, an element yet to be fully explored in any other movie.

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Kyle: For the 2nd episode of the podcast I had to research several episodes of The Batman animated series from 1992:

Some of these episodes included:

Heart of Ice
and
Harley and Ivy

With Heart of Ice I explained how Mr Freeze was changed from a joke villain into a completely sympathetic villain and how even now his origin story from the series is still used today by comic books, TV shows, movies and video games.

With Harley and Ivy I didn't explicitly mention the episode but I did try and use it to a reference to how Harley Quinn has gotten popular in modern times with films such as Suicide Squad.

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Dan:

This is the site from that goes into more detail about Frank Foster, the man who claims he made the Batman

http://www.originalbatman.com/batman/

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The following was to gives us a senses of how we could structure/present the information we had obtained. In addition we have placed what we are going to discuss for the sections.

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These pieces were to for us to see how podcast were laid out and help push us in a direction of how we wanted to structure our podcast. In addition, there is some test footage to show a potential layout we might use

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This section of our research helped to inform our Introduction section of our podcast that dealt with the history of Batman. Because Batman has had 79 years worth of history, we needed to focus our group efforts on this section due to the sheer volume of information.

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Publication Date for Detective Comics No.27

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Publication Date for Detective Comics No.27

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Dan:

March 30th 1939

Also contain additional Information on the history of Batman

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1939 was one of comics' greatest years. Arguably, the greatest single calendar year in the history of the American comic book industry as we know it today - or at least the most interesting, particularly when it comes to superhero comics.

It's the year that the rest of the industry caught on in earnest to Superman's rising success. It's the year of the beginning of Marvel Comics - about which I'm sure we'll hear much more from both inside and outside of the company, this year, 75 years later.

It's the year of the debut of Flash and the Sandman from DC, and of characters ranging from Blue Beetle to Amazing Man from other publishers, and even Captain Marvel in Whiz Comics from Fawcett likely snuck onto the newsstands before Dec 31.

I had a rather long draft post breaking down a bunch of these, but let's save that for another time.

Because today, Batman is 75 years old.

March 30, 1939 is the date of publication of Detective Comics #27 as listed by the Library of Congress Copyright Office's Catalog of Copyright Entries for Periodicals for 1939. According to the statute in effect at that time, the Copyright Act of 1909, the date of publication as listed here is "held to be the earliest date when copies of the first authorized edition were placed on sale, sold, or publicly distributed." Though it has a May cover date, cover dates were typically used to let newsdealers know when to remove unsold copies of a publication from the newsstand.

As we noted last year for Superman's 75th birthday, when Jack Liebowitz was questioned on the stand in DC v Bruns, he referenced Action Comics' dates of publication as the on-sale dates. So, while arrival dates for Detective Comics #27 are going to vary from place to place around the country (I know of a copy of Detective Comics #27 with an April 19 date stamp, for example), the date of publication gives us the most "official" available info for the earliest on-sale date.

[For completeness, I will also note that a small ad promoting the debut of Batman appeared in Action Comics #12, which hit the stands one week prior to Detective Comics #27.]

Created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger, Batman's debut in Detective Comics #27 also introduced Commissioner James Gordon. Batman's rise to success was nearly as swift as Superman's. He would receive his own title in April 1940, and as a 1941 Saturday Evening Post article noted, "Today Superman leads all other comic-magazine characters, one of the few within evening hailing distance being The Bat Man - 800,000 [copies sold per issue] - a bimonthly also owned by Donenfeld."

The highest graded (unrestored) copy of Detective Comics #27 CGC 8.0 sold for $1,075,000 in February 2010. It is one of only 5 comics to have broken the million dollar barrier.

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Happy Birthday, Batman: Today Is The 75th Anniversary Of The Release Of His First Appearance In Detective Comics #27 - Bleeding Cool News And Rumors

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1939 was one of comics' greatest years. Arguably, the greatest single calendar year in the history of the American comic book industry as we know it today - or at least the most interesting, particularly when it comes to superhero comics. It's the year that the rest of the industry caught on in earnest to Superman's rising success.

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Sam: This video goes into detail why Phantom is an extremely fateful adaptation of the character

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Dan, Sam and Kyle

1. Golden Age (1939 - 1955)

Bill Finger and Bob Kane

Origins of Characters

Impact

2. Most of the Silver Age (1955 - 1964)

Tv Series

Seduction of the Innocent by Fredric Wertham

3. End of Silver/Bronze Age (1965 - 1985)

Julius Schwartz

Year One

DKR

A Death in the Family

Serious House on Serious Earth

4. Modern Age (Post Crisis)

Burtonverse

The Animated Series

Nolanverse

Arkhamverse (The games)

Zak Snyder

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Kyle:
3 Cameras
3 Tripods
1 Boom Mic
2 Audio Mics

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Nostalgia Critic: Was the Killing Joke that bad

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Nostalgia Critic: Was the Killing Joke that bad

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Kyle: In this video the Nostalgia Critic explains how The Killing Joke animated movie may not be as bad as everyone thinks it is.

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Sam: This documentary explores the many villains from the DC universe, however it shows a lot of connections between Batman and his villains in how he encourages and creates them in several instances.

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legends of the dark knight the history of batman

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legends of the dark knight the history of batman

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Sam: arrated by Mark Hamill, a large group of creators give the history of Batman up to 2005 with many famous directors and writers explaining everything from his origin to the context of each time. including Bob Kane.

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Sam: The shadow of the Bat saga is a series of blu ray exclusive special showing the history and creation of the four Batman movies from 1989 -1997.

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Shadows of the Bat: The Cinematic Saga Of The Dark Knight  Pt.1 The Road to Gotham City

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Sam: This was me testing out how to use the green screen effect for the first time in order to be used in the podcast.

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Sam: This is a video explaining the creation of the animated series as well as Batman mask of the phantasm

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The Making Of Batman Mask of The Phantasm

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Sam:History to the character and the world

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Kyle: History to the character and the world

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Batman The ultimate guide to the Dark Knight

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Batman The ultimate guide to the Dark Knight

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Sam:History to the character and the world

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THE BAT-MAN COVER STORY by Arlen Schumer

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THE BAT-MAN COVER STORY by Arlen Schumer

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Dan:

Additional information on the history of Batman. Schumer mentions this in the lecture above.

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Dan:

Looking at other podcasts, this is our potential layout for the podcast. It doesn't really matter that the mic is visible too much but, if we need to hide; we can use some of the props to cover it from the camera.

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Kyle
BTAS
Court Of Owls
Returns
Sam
Long Halloween
Gaslight
Mask of the Phantasm
Dan
Dark Knight Returns
Batman 1989
Batman Tower of Babel
Background
Year one
Death in the Family
Killing Joke
Hush
Death of the Family
Pop Figures
All films (yea I said it)
Games

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pages 32-42 140-142 190-191 200-205 214-217 220-221 234-235

Sam: These pages link to the Batman focused areas of the book and go into multiple areas from 1939 to 1995. We have read from these areas in order to understand how much Batman has changed from his inception to how he should be portrayed. Ever since Frank Millers work he has been depicted as a dark crime fighter in a more realistic setting world. It also shows the influence gaslight had on the else world stories by DC

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Interpretation of Bob Kane's original design.

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Interpretation of Bob Kane's original design.

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Dan:

Comic Historian Arlen Schumer's illustration based on accounts by both Bill Finger and Bob Kane. When we talk about the history this will be shown.

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Sam:A piece of written work explaining Batman's best stories, it will help when looking for great stories and why.

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Under the Red Hood has become famous for simultaneously creating one of the most beloved Batman characters of all time (or would resurrecting be more appropriate?) and pulling off one of the biggest plot twists in DC Comics history with making the Red Hood former Robin, Jason Todd. This arc has become so popular that the new Batman video game, Arkham Knight, is in essence a very, very loose adaption of the book. There's a lot more than just a major plot twist to the story, though, so don't write it off simply because the outcome of the book is so well known.

Hush brings to life an entirely new Batman villain that has a personal history with Bruce Wayne. Using a number of Batman's enemies, Hush attempts to bring down the man that he perceives to be responsible for ruining his life. The book features a number of beloved villains and is famous for having one of the biggest fights between Batman and Superman. It has murder, mystery, and some of the most romantic moments between Batman and Catwoman in DC Comics history. Featuring some pretty amazing artwork from the legendary Jim Lee, Hush is a must read for all Batman fans.

Zero Year, an arc that spans two volumes, is the reimagining of Batman's first year fighting crime in Gotham. It depicts his decision to don the cape and cowl, his conflict with the Red Hood Gang, and an even greater struggle when the Riddler, Edward Nygma, decides to take over the city of Gotham. In the new continuity, this is the definitive origin story of Gotham's Dark Knight, and for that reason deserves a prominent spot on the top 15 list.

Batman: Year One has become a true Batman classic. It is THE origin story of the Dark Knight and features perhaps one of the grittiest depictions of Gotham City to ever grace the pages of a comic book. Detailing the beginnings of Batman, Jim Gordon, and Catwoman's careers, Frank Miller's Year One needs to find a spot on your bookshelf.

The Court of Owls, also a story that spans two volumes ("The Court of Owls" and "The City of Owls"), was the story that proved that Scott Snyder was the perfect author to write Batman at the start of the new continuity. An arc that deals with a secret society of wealthy Gothamites, Court of Owls is dark and gripping. With plenty of twists and turns, there's not much else you could want out of the first New 52 Batman story.

The Dark Knight Returns is no doubt one of the most influential Batman stories of all time. Bolstering the biggest fight between Superman and Batman in comics history, this book seems to be the main inspiration for the upcoming film, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Though it takes place in an alternate universe, this tale of an older, wiser Bruce Wayne coming out of retirement to fight the good fight remains unparalleled by almost any other work. Almost.....

Perhaps the most famous Batman story of all time, Alan Moore's the killing Joke shows the utter depravity of Batman's greatest foe like never before. Depicting one of the possible backstories of the Joker, it's a story of how the Clown Prince of Crime attempts to prove that one bad day can turn even the greatest of men insane. It's truly a Batman story that you simply can't miss.

The Long Halloween tops off the list, and definitely for good reason. It's not your typical "villain tries to overtake Gotham" or "rogue wants revenge on Batman" story. It's a mystery, and a decent one at that. It documents the attempts of Batman, Commissioner Gordon, and District Attorney Harvey Dent's to catch a serial killer and bring down the biggest crime family in Gotham. Serving as the main inspiration for the Dark Knight (a film that is often regarded to be the greatest superhero film of all time) and as an inspiration for various components of The Dark Knight Rises, the Long Halloween also features a long list of rogues that stop in to make an appearance throughout the book (yet somehow it manages to never feel overcrowded). For these reasons, the Long Halloween is arguably the greatest Batman story to ever be told.

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Under the Red Hood has become famous for simultaneously creating one of the most beloved Batman characters of all time (or would resurrecting be more appropriate?) and pulling off one of the biggest plot twists in DC Comics history with making the Red Hood former Robin, Jason Todd.

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Who Created Batman?: Comics Arts Conference Session #8

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Who Created Batman?: Comics Arts Conference Session #8

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Dan:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/dc-will-finally-credit-bill-finger-as-co-creator-of-bat-1731947676
additional information on bill finger.

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Dan:

This is a podcast produced by the Dungeons and Dragons creative team at Wizards of the Coast. This shows a videos layout for a podcast.  Since podcasts are generally more audio focused, layouts tend to be quite simple in terms of video.

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Dragon Talk: LYSK Shadar-Kai, The Raven Queen, 3/5/18

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Dan:

Comic book historian Arlen Schumer goes into detail about the origins of Batman. This focuses more on Bill Finger's contributions to the character. We need to be able to explain more than just the basics of Batman's history

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"Batman & Bill Finger" lecture by Arlen Schumer

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Sam:The Weekly planet is a very simple podcast that tackles many different areas from movies to games to comics. They only show an image while they talk about the many different subjects. The areas covered are in different areas however we wish take this simplicity and improve upon the formula.

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Best & Worst Versions Of Batman - The Weekly Planet Podcast

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Sam: This is a podcast example and the formula we want to try and capture. It follows a formula off multiple rounds with debates in different rounds and the winner is the person who won the most topics. This is important as it's a big influence on the work that we want to capture on a much smaller scale.

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Best Sci-Fi Movie of the 21st Century? MOVIE FIGHTS (HOWARD vs MISS MOVIES)

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Sam:
History
section 1: best characterisation of Batman Kyle/Dan
section 2: best story comics Sam/Kyle
section 3: else world story Sam/Dan
section 4: best movie (no TDK) Sam/Dan/Kyle
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Sam: Me, Kyle and Daniel will be selecting our favourite pieces of the Batman's history and will be comparing them all in order to determine the most definitive version of The Dark Knight. We will judge each story we chose on different categories and present it very structural video.

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Sam: This video covers most of the biggest points in Batman's history and as such we can watch it in order to get ideas on where to read

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I created this animation to celebrate the 75th anniversary of Batman. I've included some of my all-time favourite Batman moments. This version of the video unfortunately has a couple of audio issues that occured when uploading the video, please check out V.3 which is also available on my channel.

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Kyle:
The Dark Knight Returns, Year One, The Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Killing Joke, Court of Owls, Death of the Family, Death in the Family, The Dark Knight, The Arkham Trilogy, TAS, LEGO Batman, The Man who Laughs, Batman 1966, Arkham Asylum: A serious house on a serious earth, Knightfall.

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In the end we plan to argue which is the best in the trilogy and justify our reasons why.

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ALL Vegeta Manga/Anime References in Dragon Ball FighterZ

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Panels to compare from the game to the main source

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The debating between the characters is something we want to incorporate into our work to add some personality into the product.

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Dragon Ball Top 24 Villains Part 5 - DBcember 2016 - Team Four Star

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A great review on the game which we hope to expand upon his point diving into each of the characters is great detail.

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DBFZ - The Greatest Fighting Game EVER MADE?

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Me, Kyle and Daniel will focus on reviewing the game DragonBall Fighterz breaking each and every part of the game down explaining our likes and dislikes. We will compare it to the show it's based on with examples and comparisons

Kyle

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This is a very professional review style which is straight to the point in it's sections. We hope to expand on this formula adding sections in which me, Kyle and Daniel talk about areas that we enjoyed and more details and examples on scenes

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Old vs New: Spider-Man Movies  - Nostalgia Critic

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The Cornetto Trilogy documentary or review

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The Cornetto Trilogy documentary or review

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The idea is to make A review or documentary on the Cornetto Trilogy which includes Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz and The World's End all directed by Edgar Wright and written by Edgar and Simon Pegg. this type of review may be based on a reviewer on Youtube called Cjszero01.

Kyle

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The idea is to put two similar games together and compare them in multiple categories and sees which series is superior. Based on the series old vs new by Channel Awesome