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In as much detail as possible, describe your initial reactions to this story.

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What are your thoughts about the information provided in Chapter 8? As applicable, identify what you agreed with and what you disagreed with.

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In watching the slip and reading Chapter 8, what did you notice? What do you think were the main differences? Were there any similarities? Which one do you identify with more?

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Below, post one question or discussion topic related to this anything addressed on this board (readings, video, your classmates' comments).

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Throughout history, we saw feminism play a significant role that impacted women's rights today.  Tough and courageous woman figures went against societal norms to shape history for the better.  When watching these two women try to share their ideas about a set of "rules" that women should follow with regards to dating, it got me thinking.  I do agree on a lot of aspects that these women demonstrate, but I also disagree with a lot of things as well.  I think it is important for women to realize their self worth.  I think the man does not have to approach the women and ask them out, the women can initiate the first move as well.  The authors stressed on the importance of being pursued.  Even though I agree with the idea of "playing hard to get" (in some situations) I do think these women took it a bit too far.  For example, one of their rules were to not call the man back to make it seem like they are hard to get.  If that was me, I would think the woman is not interested.  Therefore, I do not think that this is a good approach.  I also think that women should think as individuals and not have these rules forced upon them in society.  We are all equal and deserve to make choices that make us feel comfortable.  I do not think living by a set of rules philosophy will always generate a positive outcome.

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I am very glad that I read this chapter for many reasons. This chapter really covered a lot of the things that I can relate to. This chapter highlights today's dating culture. Reading this chapter definitely validated my thoughts to the dating culture that I was personally experiencing. I am glad that I got the opportunity to read other people's thoughts and ideas, so I am not the only one that thinks a certain way. One of the things that I agree with is when the author said that many people in their twenties do not want a relationship because of the whole idea of being too strung down. The author explained that being in your twenties is a time for self-exploration and well as going through stages of early adulthood. I agree that many relationships can cause great stress in someone's life and prevent them from experiencing life in their early twenties. However, one thing I can disagree on maintaining the same tone throughout the entirety of the chapter. Even though I agree that dating in your twenties can be stressful, I do not always think that that is the case. The author only focused on the negative aspects of dating and viewed it as some sort of burden. However, dating promotes growth and maturity in a social lime light. Being able to accept one's flaws and communicating feelings allows partners to understand people better. It allows people to feel feelings they have never felt before. I always heard that dating is the best and worst thing someone will ever experience. Feeling the emotions of breakups, fights, falling outs, love, excitement, and happiness makes someone a better person.

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Upon watching this slip and reading chapter 8, I noticed a lot of things. First off, this slip took place in the 90s. The dating culture in the 90s and right now are far from similar. This slip mainly covers feministic ideologies, but chapter 8 covers genz dating culture. The main differences were the ways people communicate. For example, even though the stereotype is that men should approach women as displayed in this slip, that changed in genz to where women can now approach men. The history of women changed over the course of the years and women have more confidence and a sense of individuality. Also, genz lives in a more social media run society while the 90s relied on telephone or face to face as a means for interactions. The only similarities that these two share is the idea that people have a hard time dating, but present itself in different ways. For instance, this slip explained that women have a hard time dating because they are unsure of who should be the initiator or who should participate more in the realm of dating. Chapter 8 explained that the dating culture has been altered too much that many people simply choose not to pursue each other for many reasons (porn, commitment issues, individualism).

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Can the culture of same sex relationships apply to all these ideas?

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This video really got me thinking about the way women think about dating. I agree with a lot of things the two ladies talked about in this video but I also disagree on certain things as well. I feel at times they were a little to harsh on men. But, I also know this video was dated and back in the day women could be that way because they were the ones staying home cleaning the house, making dinner, and watching the kids. I do believe that in this day and age women can be the ones to make the first move without it being weird, we should take power and feel good about ourselves enough to go up to a man first. I also believe that women should have their own beliefs and do things they want to do them and not have to feel like they should follow "rules" that society puts out there. Women should do whatever is best for your comfort zone when it comes to dating and relationships.

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As I was reading this chapter I noticed that I agreed with a lot of what the author was talking about. I do agree that dating in your 20's can be a really tough thing. I agree that it can stop you from saving as much money as you would if you were single, it doesn't allow you to hang out with friends as much, and it can cause un-needed stress as well as take you away from focusing on school as much. On the other hand I disagree with the author because he does constantly talk about how bad it is to get in a relationship at a young age and although i did agree with the things he said I also disagree with some of them. For example I believe that getting into relationships is a good part of growing and learning because it allows you to go through different ups and downs. You learn new things about yourself and how to express emotions in different way which helps you grow as a person.

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After watching this video, I honestly thought it was a little harsh, only because I found it to be very blunt and straight-forward. I do agree with some advice the women gave. For instance, when they had mentioned that the woman should NOT pursue the man, I do agree with that to some extent because I do know that some men enjoy being challenged and having women play hard to get; however, in this day and age the times have changed, and I know recently, some men do indeed find it attractive when a woman has the courage to go up and introduce herself to someone. It is all very wishy-washy because the "rules" do not apply to all men. I think this video was very harsh at times, specifically with their tone and their attitude to push men to do most of the work in a relationship. Again, times have changed and I am not so sure that this video is a good source to get relationship advice.

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With the information provided in chapter 8, I would have to agree with the single aspect the author discussed. As a current college student, I do enjoy and admire my single life to focus on my education and my journey to becoming a teacher. I am not exactly striving for a serious relationship at the moment because my schedule is so jam-packed anyway; however, if the opportunity presented itself, I would not be so quick to walk away from it. I would be willing to try to be in a serious relationship. If by some chance it doesn't work out and becomes too much, then it simply was not meant to be.

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I do believe that the slip and chapter 8 were different from each other. First off the slip was from the 90s and chapter 8 talks more about genz. Of course in the 90s dating culture was very different then it is now. First off in the 90s it was all about the boy communicating first and going up to the girl first. In today's world it is more popular for girls to reach out first and make the first move. Also communication it self was very different, social media was not a thing in the 90s. But in today's world that is the main line when it comes to communicating with each other or even when it comes to making the first official move in a relationship. I definitely identify more with the chapter since it is easier to relate with considering it wasn't written in the 90s.

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After watching the video and reading chapter 8, I would definitely relate to the chapter more than the video. This is because, the video was set in a time that I was not born in and therefore, I can't relate to the mindset of making the man work for you. I relate to chapter 8 more because it focuses on the IGen. For instance, chapter 8 mentions online dating and Tinder. This helps me relate more because it is discussing technology that I have used personally in the past. I have used Tinder before, so it is easier for me to realize how easy and simple it is to find a new "boo".

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Do men now believe more in women pursuing them, or challenging themselves and pursue women?

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Would college aged men rather women make the first move or leave it up to them to make the first move within relationships and dating?

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My initial thought of the segment, was that it's a bit harsh. I don't think that there are these "rules" that must be followed to get married. I think that are close to the really point: of women needing to understand their value and not allow a man to be lazy or uncommitted in a relationship. But instead of sating that, they make it sound like they are manipulating men into marrying women and are upholding outdated values.

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I thought that chapter was very interesting. Much like the people interviewed in the text, I would have thought that my generation would have more partners than previous generations. I was not surprised that finanacial situations are affecting if people have children , or when they have kids. I would have to agree that I don't plan on having children until I'm around thirty because I will not be secure enough to care for them properly.

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I would say that both pieces discuss reasons for peoples ability or inability to form long-lasting relationships. Personally, I think the text had more solid evidence on the matter. The video simply said it was because women were taking charge in the wooing, while the text discusses cultural changes due to technology and economics.

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Are there more less long-term relationships before marriage in Gen Z?

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I think that the ideas that these girls have about dating are very over the top. In some instances playing hard to get can work and isn't necessarily bad, but only to a certain extent. There is nothing wrong with showing some interest in a guy, especially nowadays. I was most surprised at the part where they told the woman to move out when she said that her boyfriend hasn't brought up marriage yet. In this situation I think a conversation about the stage of their relationship and their future would suffice and get the point across. I also think that relationships should be 50/50 when you're in it- it's a commitment on both ends. The ladies in this video act entitled to being treated like queens when they treat men very poorly.

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My initial reaction was I was a bit intrigued. I feel as if these rules somewhat work in instances, I feel this way because men already do this. They make girls do the chase when it should totally be opposite way around. They mess with our heads have us waiting by the phone for a text, phone call, and FaceTime. Playing hard to get isn't a bad way to make someone want you more.. In the end if they really like you and you really like them you both will be doing the chasing eventually. You don't have to follow the "rules" to get married.

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My initial reaction about the segment that is was grating. The rules that they mention are manipulated to men. I somewhat disagree about the rules. For instance about calling/speaking on certain days just act snobby. On the other, I do agree with all the chasing and playing hard to get because some men find that attractive and some men do it to women. Honestly, following those rules won't make a good, successful relationship. I didn't even know there was rules like this. However, that was back in the day and now it's a totally different world about dating.

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My reaction for this video is that it is out-dated. I can see how at times during the 90's how the things mentioned in this video were trending and popular among women, but at this point in life things have evolved. Doing certain things in this video are harsh and at this day in age I think would do just the opposite of what these women are preaching. As I do agree to an extent, I agree some men find it attractive for women to play hard to get and enjoy the challenge of getting what they want, doing it this much I think would cause the man to move on.

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My initial reaction to this video was that it was crazy. I am a very go with the flow, follow your heart type of person and I feel that there should be no set rules to follow with love and dating. As a girl I feel that you should be able to make your own decisions. I think them talking about how you should not stay on the phone for more then ten minutes and should not say yes to a date after a Wednesday is pointless, If you want to call someone or go out with someone you should be able to do it whenever you want to.  There should be no "rules" for love and dating because everyone feels love in their own special way.

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My thoughts about the chapter is that I disagree with the author when she mentions about not wanting to be in a relationship because you can develop into being your own person, being independent. Also, when she mentions about when people date young they are reliant to their boyfriend/ girlfriend and can't stay single because they need to be with someone. I dated young and never had to be reliant on my boyfriend. When I was dating my boyfriend I developed into my own person and became independent. I agree about how financials can affect people who had children. The income that was just going to you was great and lovely but having children and a husband/wife have your money not just going to you anymore.

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My initial reaction to this video was I thought it was funny how serious they were taking these rules just to get a man to marry them. You can really see the difference between then and today. They say don't make the first move, don't be too nice and that's ridiculous. Today I've learned that some boys think it's a turn on when you pursue them first and they love that confidence. When they said it was really about manipulating boys they reacted like boys were objects and that's wrong. We are all humans and boys feel emotions too. Therefore, I believe that you should do what you want to do and listen to your heart. We all love differently and sometimes we don't want to be loved, it all depends on the type of person we are.

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This chapter was very relatable for me. One part that really stuck out to me was when the author said most college students want a long-term relationship in college, but they actually think majority of their peers don't wan't one. I related this to the class kahoot when all but 5 students voted that they want a long-term relationship and the whole class was shocked with the results. I very much enjoyed this chapter.

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I liked this chapter but, I do disagree with the fact that the author brought up the fact of not being able to be and develop into their own person during a relationship. In your twenties you are still growing and getting used to adulthood but, I feel that being in a relationship shouldn't have to change that. Creating a strong relationship means that it takes two people, you should not have to rely on your partner. Being yourself and growing as an individual will help make your relationship stronger and you will have your partner by your side for support as you are going through these stages of life.

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After reviewing both the reading and the video, I think the video is outdated and the book is more current. The culture has shifted and our current culture is based off of the old one in the 90's. I identify and relate much more to the iGen text.

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When I read chapter 8, I was intrigued because I really agreed with everything they were saying about my generation. It's interesting to see how people my age are really changing the norms. I agree that marriage is not a priority, but eventually I would like to get married of course. I truly believe that I want to have a career and be stable before I commit to someone. I thought it was funny when they mention that people can be exhausting because that's how I feel sometimes. Life is crazy though and anything can happen suddenly; you can fall in love and your "plan" of not being committed to someone can be thrown out the window. I partially disagree with having relationships in your 20s can be a distraction. It can be, but currently I wouldn't really care because I want to be in one and feel that love.

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I noticed watching the slip and reading the chapter were that they were totally different. The video is so outdated I never heard about wanting or finding a relationship you had to follow some pretty harsh rules. The chapter is more updated to now because it mentions a lot of stuff that this generation uses to form relationships. Therefore, I identify more with the chapter.

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Do iGen men agree with this video clip and what the women are saying?

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The video and text were completely different. Over the years there have been many changes in how relationships work. The video was very outdated and it is crazy to me how there were so many rules in a relationship that were supposed to be followed, The text we read related a lot more to how life is today and was more relatable.

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If women in iGen used "The Rules" to dating would there be more dating or less dating?

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Should there be rules to relationships or should every couple be able to find out what works best for them?

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The differences from the slip and chapter 8 are prominent. In the slip we see how marriage is so important to them and how they are making rules that will lead them into getting married. On the other hand, the reading focuses on iGen and how it's really not that important to us. We are getting married at an older age and focusing more on our career. In chapter 8, they talk about GenX and that's similar to the video. GenX were getting married at an earlier age; however not as early as Boomers. Overall, I identify more with chapter 8 because they are talking about my generation and I related to most of the things they mention. Sometimes I want the man to pursue me, but somedays I'm feeling risky and text them first. However, I'm more about waiting and focusing on myself and school first.

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Do most men, feel that these "rules" are really about manipulating them ?

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My initial reaction was that this is very far fetched. Just because you play hard to get does not that mean that someone will chase after you. Playing hard to get to a certain degree works, but to this extent, during this day and age I do not think it is still applicable. It was also very mind boggling to me that all of these women were reading and searching so hard to find love. I feel like love should just happen, it should not have to go my the rules in a book. Each love story is different and not every man will enjoy a woman who does not show any interest in them.

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My initial reaction to this video is that they are right. People love mystery and love the chase. Nobody wants someone that is too easy because it's boring and takes the fun and adventure out of the relationship. Not saying everything that they said was true but mist of it is. If you sleep with a guy on the first date, most men, that's all they want. So if you give him that pleasure, he'll leave and not think twice about you. But being hard to get and making him crave more will make him interested and grab his attention. He'll remember you apart from the rest of the other women because you made him work for it. Marriage isn't everything, but if you're at that point of life where you're looking for that, then you have the right to do and act however you want to find Mr.Right. I've learned from past mistakes that being hard to get, actually works.

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While reading chapter 8 I was intrigued by all the information they gave us. I found it interesting to see the facts of how millennials back in the day use to hook up with people and how the statistics are now changing. But it shows that iGen vote too hookup but it shows that we rarely do that and it was more common for hookups to happen back in the day easier.

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After watching the video and then reading chapter 8, I feel as if the reading is more common to iGen now. The video is very old and now a days people don't follow rules its more common to stay in contact with someone with the new updated technology. With the video as well they prioritized marriage while creating these "rules" and within the reading they steered us off from marriage saying its not that important to live life throughout your twenties.

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How do iGen men feel about the reading and the video, do they feel women should follow these to get men?

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While reading this chapter I thought it was very interesting and intense. I agree that at some point in your teenage life you need to be single to find yourself and work on yourself. You can't be happy and rely on a relationship for happiness. Because if that relationship ends you'll lose yourself and get depressed. You need to be able to survive on your own and work through your own flaws before you put that on anyone else. Something I disagree with is that not everyone wants to be in a long term relationship. As for me, I do. I think I found someone that I will be with for a while, but for other people such as my friends, they say they have more important stuff to do than worry about a relationship. Hooking up is fun for weekends or parties, but when it comes to their future they want to put themselves first.

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When men want a long term relationship do they look for someone that's easy or go with the hard to get chase?

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My initial reaction to this clip was surprise, how all these women are taking the time to read a love book. Love should be follow by heart not by reading and following what other people are doing. The author might be right in playing hard to get. But not by following the "rules girl". In the video she mentioned that you should wait at least one week to  return the call back. What if you really liked the guy and by playing hard, you will lose that chance. But everyone has different views, so they should follow what they want.

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After watching the slip and reading Chapter 8 I believe they both have very different view-points. I think that the time differences have a lot to do with their differences with either wanting marriage or just hooking up. A similarity they share is that most women look for a man they want to spend a while with. I believe I would relate to Chapter 8 more than the slip because even though hard to get is a good tactic, not all women want to go straight into marriage and the iGen can relate to more independent generation I live in today.

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"You've been playing the dating game all wrong" Oh man 2 minutes in this and I have been laughing like crazy. There are many times where as I guy, I feel myself where I can take on the world and ask any woman out but sometimes I also feel nervous and shy where I can't speak to any woman there is also 100 reasons why guys do not approach girls first, I have no words, I am shocked people think like this. If you are reading this, never chase anyone and don't let anyone chase after you, no one likes to play games if you are committed.

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At the beginning of the chapter, I agreed with what Leigh Taveroff wrote on Today's Lifestyle "our 20s are meant to be the best years of our lives... sometimes a long term relationship can just get in the way of all that fun." As a college student, I could not imagine fully being in a long term relationship. This matched my opinion on that when you are young you should just be having fun and not have to worry about another person.

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This chapter made me realize that this generation has been selfish in a good way, we want to be independent before committing. "I am not sexually active, and I am not looking to be either." Some people make sex everything and others make it nothing, this generation found its middle balance where sex means something but not as much as previous generations. In this chapter I don't agree with "Relationships hold you from your true potential" I believe a relationship shows you who you really are and you're free to evolve off that.

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I think the slip was more towards feminism, where a woman takes control of what she wants, who she wants instead of them being a choice for men they flipped the script to find a man to MARRY. Chapter 8 informs us that times have changed, we use technology to find hook-ups, but we are also not too focused on committing until we have "fun" and enjoyed life. Its hard to say which one I identify more, I have never used any dating services and I have never thought about marriage seriously before.

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I agree on what the article said on the first few pages. Dating someone will sometimes distract you from your future. Or sometimes you will not experience things you wanted to do before a serious relationship. I've seen it happen to a few friends of mine. They are in a committed relationship and forgot all about what they wanted to pursue in life. On page 206, " As recently as 2007, the average high school boy had lost his virginity, but after 2009 only a minority of boys (43%) had had sex, along with 39% of girls." Why are young kids rushing on having sex. Sex should be with someone you really love.

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A question for all the females, lets say you are in a relationship and you ask what their body count was, how much is "too much"?

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The slip was more about following the rule book. About how to make men chase after you. In chapter 8, talk more about how times have changed more. People having more sex and apps coming out for a one-night stand. I identify more to chapter 8 because it provides more information and more updated.

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My first impression on the video and the story is honestly pretty mixed. I am not gonna lie the "rules" seem a little absurd to me. It seems very rude and a little dishonest. It seems like they are trying to manipulate men and it from what I am seeing it seems rather toxic. I do believe that woman should be able to choose and do whatever they want when it comes to dating, If they want to follow those "rules" then by all means do what you want. I for one am not a big fan of those rules.

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Honestly the video caught me a little off guard. I feel like there were bits and pieces that can apply to society now but a lot of it wouldn't. I know a lot of my guy friends said they hate it when a girl plays hard to get in a relationship because it comes off as if they feel like they are too good for them. Also a lot of the advice they were giving I feel like is unrealistic. An example being telling the girl to move out because she wasn't proposed to. I feel like the girls turned dating into more of a game then a what could be a serious commitment. I think it is ok to show a guy that you are interested because at the end of the day they have feelings too. They like a lot of the same things women do just try to put on a front as if they don't. A relationship should be 50/50 in my opinion and a lot could be fixed with simple communicate and actually talking about how people feel rather than trying to do the opposite and turn it into a game.

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After reading, do you agree that we should wait dating until we are done school and have a job?

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My initial reaction about this video is that ladies are coming off harsh. I understand playing hard to get, but that doesn't mean every guy will chase after you. The girl needs to give a little spice for the guy to see you are interested.For the dating lifestyle to work you need 50/50.  What I got from the video is that the guys are supposed to be doing all the work. I feel like it was shocking to me because my generation about love is different from back in the day relationships.

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I found this chapter to be more interesting. There are a lot of things that I do believe and agree with in this article. I feel like a lot of people do want to wait to get into a relationship in order to find themselves and get themselves settled. I feel like our generation is a little more independent then those before and want to be able to accomplish everything they want to before they get married and settled down. Previously marriage and kids came before peoples careers however now it is the opposite. A lot of people too see a relationship and commitment as something that will hold them back from achieving everything and having fun. Something that did shock me though was how many people our age actually are having sex. I can understand the reasons behind why the percentage might have lowered but it did catch me off guard slightly. I could see it being true and accurate because in high school I felt like it was hard to find a virgin however In college it seems that its more of an equal split between the two.

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My initial reaction to this video was shocking. To be honest, I found this funny because I do not think that women or anyone should play by the rules when it comes to dating. Everyone is allowed to date without any rules playing a part. They should just follow their and do what they believe is the best thing to do. I found this a little harsh because not all men should be played hard to get. I know there are guys that do like that but others enjoy to receive attention by the girl. I do not think it is right for someone to play with a mans emotions knowing that he is really into the girl. At the end of the day, everyone dates differently and that is totally okay!!

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I believe the actually video clip was a little more outdated. It goes based off of the idea that women should play hard to get in order to get a man. The entire video is basically given women a set of rules to follow and a lot of them turn getting into a relationship into almost like a game. Although both things do talk about not settling for less, I feel like the second one is more so based on doing it for your own well being and not with the hope of finding someone. The article itself talks about how people are genuinely waiting because they want to accomplish things on their own and get to the right point in their life in order to then settle down while the video is basically saying to pretend like that's the case in order to trick the guy into falling for you. I agree more with the article than I do with the reading. I feel like a lot of the things in the video were stupid and a waist of time. To me it is a little more immature and could lead to more problems later on in the relationship. When it comes to the reading I do believe our generation is just more independent and wants to know they are good and settled on their own before adding another person into their life.

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I agreed with Leigh Taveroff because this is what’s going on in my generation today. Is that people are going into relationships young. They don’t even know who they are or love who they are. Also they are not enjoying life to the fullest.  I disagree with how young love is bad because so people know how to make it work.

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I agreed with Leigh Taveroff because this is what’s going on in my generation today. Is that people are going into relationships young. They don’t even know who they are or love who they are. Also they are not enjoying life to the fullest.  I disagree with how young love is bad because so people know how to make it work.

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I found the information pretty interesting. I have personally never used a dating app, and I haven't dated too much either. I've stayed by myself for quite some time. I never knew that apps like Tinder caused a dating apocalypse. Many people these days are getting into many different relationships with many others. It has become socially accepted, and to me, that makes sense. Let people do what they want to do; if they do it safely, it is no one's business but between the people hooking up. Looking from the 70s and 80s to the 2000s, it is very different. Much easier to meet people for casual sex and hookups due to the availability of apps such as Tinder and bumble.

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Does waiting until you have your life put together and you are done having fun to find a relationship make it hard to later find someone who also has their life together and fits yours?

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I notice that getting into relationships is different in different generations. Watching the slip the ladies were being femenist about being in a relationship.  In chapter 8 was talking about cultural changes in relationships.

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I notice that getting into relationships is different in different generations. Watching the slip the ladies were being femenist about being in a relationship.  In chapter 8 was talking about cultural changes in relationships.

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Is their a limit to play hard to get?

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I noticed getting into relationships is much more different from the past. The video did not age too well, in my opinion, because dating apps have changed the game of dating. Those dating rules would never work on a dating app because of the availability of much more people at your fingertips for both men and women.

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Do you think those rules the women talked about in the video would work in todays dating scenarios?

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Initially watching this video it was shocking to see grown women trying to play hard to get. Honestly, I think that if someone is not interested they can let them down easily. If people get caught up in the rules too much they will forget what they were actually looking for to begin with. Also, it is okay to break rules at times. I believe that nowadays relationships do not depend on who talks to who first and everyone should shoot their shot.

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My thoughts on chapter 8 are that I agree with most points that were mentioned. For example, not everyone is ready for a committed relationship. I do agree with the fact that your partners problems become yours and a lot of people are not ready for that especially for college students that want to focus more on their studies and experience the college life. However, I do not agree that "relationships in your 20's just don't work". Not everyone should have to figure their life out and find themselves in their twenties because some people may have answered those questions before the age of 20 and maybe after their late twenties. For me, I would definitely be ready for a relationship in my 20's because I have never been in a long term committed relationship before. I have spent a lot of time by myself and figuring out who I am.

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In watching this video, like my classmates, I was just in awe. I totally forgot about how many "rules" there were in regards to dating back in the day. There were so many stereotypes, rules, and control over women. There was so much secrecy and mystery that were implemented on women just to get a date. It was also a little upsetting to see how much women had to change themselves to revive attention from men. It felt like the "love coaches" were trying to change women and their personality or morals.

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As I was reading chapter eight, I felt like my friends and I were being put on the spotlight. There were so many cold hard truths that I had to read and digest. One topic in particular would be the section on "Catching Feelings". There is little to no awareness in talking about the downside of being casual with someone. If they or you, catch feelings, it mixes a lot of feelings up and only causes more stress as the article states.

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Like many have already commented, the time and era of both pieces differ drastically. Dating in the 90s is nothing like dating now. Some differences include the casualty that dating offers now, and the convenience of dating that is offered now. Similarities include the anxiety, stress, and fear that comes with dating.

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What rules do you follow now when it comes to dating? Why?

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My initial reaction to the video was that it very outdated. My initial thought was this video may be more relevant to the GenX generation more than the iGen. I wouldn’t rely heavily on the advice of the two authors in the video. The only thing that I could relate to in the video was not chasing after a guy desperately and let him chase after you. Other than that, I would not use their advice for dating.  I do not want to follow someone else’s “rules” for dating. I want to do my own thing and I believe women should just do what they want and see what happens.

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The Chapter 8 reading was interesting to read. As an iGener I can definitely relate to the 18-year college student who said “I think it is not good to be in a relationship at all during college because you need to focus, explore, make money, [and] spend time with friends”. From my interpretation of the reading, it appears that the article implies iGeners prefer porn and hookups. I don’t agree with that because I don’t know anyone in my age group like that. I’m not saying there are no iGeners out there like that, I just have not met any.

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Dating in the 90s is very different than it is today. In my opinion, there was much more dating and relationships in the 90s. Dating apps have completely changed the pool of dating. A lot of people are much more casual and about hook ups on these dating apps. Similiarly, there was still drunken hook ups and there was still the same thought process while dating people. Such as, women still playing hard to get in order to get the man.

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After reading Chapter 8 and then watching the video I believe the similarities are that they both give a perspective of dating. The main differences is that one perspective is “old school”, and the other perspective is more current. I identify more with the reading because the Chapter focuses more about what is going on currently. I believe Chapter 8 does a better job with comparing the iGener’s views about relationships and dating to previous generations. The Chapter highlighted online dating and serious issues. However, the video more or less highlighted bias dating and relationship views of two authors. In my opinion, the views of the two authors seemed outdated and not relevant.

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How do you think men feel about the dating advice, of the two authors, from the video clip?

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How often does playing hard to get work out in the long run?

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Do men prefer to accomplish everything they want in life before committing into a long term relationship/marriage or does it not matter
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In watching the slip I noticed that their advice would be best for women that want to marry already and for the chapter 8 it leans toward individualism. The main differences were that the slip is outdated and chapter 8 is current. More young adults can relate to the topics that were talked about especially the fact that marriage isn't their main priority at their age. The similarities would be that most people do want to be in a relationship or get married but they all have their own timing for it. I identify more with chapter 8 because I can understand why the young adults felt the way they did when talking about topics like marraige and relationships.

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I have never been one to chase a man. I also usually make them work for it a little and don't seem too eager. I have never been so serious about it, though, as to reject a date if he calls on the wrong day of the week. I think men should have to work for a woman's attention just as the girls describe in the video. I agree with them in that women should also not go beyond kissing on the first date. It leaves a sense of mystery and gives you both something to look forward to.

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My first reaction to this video was that these two authors are preying on a vulnerable population of women to make a quick buck. After viewing the entire video, I still agree with this assertion. What a bunch of absolute quacks. And do not get me started on the dark-haired woman's bulging eyes-- this isn't very feminist of me, but those are crazy eyes if I've ever seen them. These "rules" are trite and they're setting women back in ways that I wasn't even sure fellow women were capable of. Though I will admit that making men suffer is a delicious temptation for me, this is not a substantial way to go about it. Honestly these "rules" were created purely to appease the patriarchy. The authors advertise them as "feminist" and as a way to "manipulate" men when in all actuality it is taking advantage of women and not allowing them to act in natural, comfortable ways. This is also not a way to gain self-confidence as women should not have to change themselves to satisfy men. All in all, this is a '90s cash grab that shouldn't have bearing on modern dating.

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Chapter 8 validated many of the thoughts I have about dating in today's world. People our age aren't ready for something serious and don't really want to settle down. While I think college is a great place to find yourself, it should not be an excuse for random hookups for 4 years straight. I found it interesting that most iGen'ers did not believe the writer when they told them most of their generation were less sexually active than the previous generation. I find that many young adults might feel pressure from their peers to be sexually active because they assume their friends are also doing so.

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While the video and the chapter reading had their differences, they were also similar. The video concluded that women want to get married but most of the women they were talking about were older (20+). This is similar to the reading because, while 20 year olds might not be ready for marriage quite yet, they do want to eventually settle down. They were different in that the chapter talked about more casual hookups while the video said women should wait 6-8 weeks before engaging in sexual activity. The video also commented that you should break up with him if he didn't get you a romantic gift for your birthday or Valentine's Day. I cannot say whether I identify with one or the other more because I know that I am a part of this new generation. I agree with several points from both pieces.

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Do men truly find it attractive when women play hard to get? Or do they prefer an easy catch?

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Chapter 8 did not surprise me. As an iGen'er myself, I've held many of these opinions and so have my peers. I believe the only people who are genuinely surprised about this are those outside of this generation like the author. I believe the prevailing issue with this chapter is the author's intent to streamline this generation and to get answers that correlate with her own thoughts or whatever the current trend is heading towards. The problem is that while there are trends within each generation, they are unable to speak for the entire generation's attitude. It appears that teens and young adults are having less sex which has results such as lower STI rates and lower rates of teen pregnancy, but what's so significant about teens and young adults dating less? It seems to me that the author and researchers are making this finding into a problem. Sure, there are significant repercussions societally, but with all due respect, what's the actual harm? I don't believe there is any.

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From start to finish, I found this video to be frustrating to watch. I think the ideas presented are extremely skewed and is just as harmful to the process of finding someone you genuinely want to be with, as well as promotes the toxicity of manipulation, because that in any form is not acceptable. It also adheres to heteronormative relationships and lack considerations for couple's identifying outside of normalized sexualities, often times leading to stigmas that are harmful to their relationships. And I agree with the sentiment that if your partner loves and wants to marry you they will and if the like you they will call you, but that dose note mean it needs to be adhered to by specific rules that are not considerate of the other persons efforts. And simply it shouldn't take rules to get someone to fall in love with you.

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While reading the chapter, I found myself not being surprised by anything that I read. The trends for relationships marriage and child rates, made sense based on how society has developed. GenI has grown in its detachment to deeply connected relationships. We have also proven to be a generation of self-acualization, with more focus being but on ourselves for our wellbeing, and once we find that, translate that in a mutual and equally understood relationship.

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The Dateline clip and Chapter 8 of the reading were vastly different in that the clip was about a lazy cash grab with no scientific evidence while the chapter is based in extensive research and proven sociological beliefs. The quacks on Dateline were in direct retaliation to the feminist movement of the '90s while the chapter is exploring the current generation and how technology has shaped our love and sex lives. I think the differences are clear as day. If there are similarities, they are petty (i.e. they both discuss love and marriage, etc.). Thankfully I relate to the chapter far more than the clip. If I related to the clip in any way, I would willingly get a lobotomy. Those women are a danger to society and I am thankful that my generation did not grow up with these "rules."

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The reading in relation to the clip do overlap in some points, specifically when looking at ages for when people decide to go up around this time as people begin to develop different standards for finding a partner, and as generations slowly began to move a way from that in suite. It is obviously similar in the topics being discussed, love, relationships, and marriage, but rather than the article that provides information based on some controlled studies and data pools, this clip presents a very narrow minded opinion on what these people believe to be the proper way to create a relationship.

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Are we really this desperate to manipulate men? If love's a game, I want out.

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Would you really consider a relationship that was built on manipulative tactics in order to induce love, as a love that can bring authentic and genuine happiness?

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Initially, I found this video a bit funny. Although, maybe I should not have I kind of found their advice comical. Specifically, the scene where with the advisor Sherrie and the women asking about her living situation with her boyfriend. I laughed when she told her to move out. Also when the interviewer asked her if she would consider the dating rules manipulation, and she sarcastically responded, " poor things. " All in all, even though their methods may be manipulative I respect their their philosophies. Although, I don't think that is the only and best method to getting guys attention. I feel like their advice definitely empowered women. For example she talked about not doing more than holding hands on the first date. Also about not setting for a time that is not up with your schedule.

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In all honesty, after watching this video from start to finish, I found the video shocking and ridiculous to watch. I understand, for instance, that it is good to play hard to get in one of the ways to get a man to want you more, but I believe there is a certain extent to that. I say this because we do live in a different generation and dating is very different now than before. Especially because our technology is more advanced now than before, as well as we have many dating apps too. And many men like when woman approach them instead because they believe it shows bravery and confidence. I would never want to ruin something so genuine and effortless with someone who I really like just because of some "rules", and would rather follow what my heart and gut is telling me to do. Something I completely disagreed with is not answering someone for 3 weeks. I understand not answering someone for a few minutes, but 3 weeks is unfair to the other person. And this representation of the "rules" all in all shows toxicity to me because you are playing around with someones emotions who is putting their heart in the line for you. It just isn't fair.

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My initial thought was that the authors in the story were trying to manipulate vulnerable women who are unsuccessful with dating. They set so many rules and taught the women how to “date”. Most of these rules were pretty toxic and forced the women to change their values and morals and for what? Just to get a date. If they get caught up in the rules too much they will forget what they were actually looking for to begin with. In my opinion, it’s okay for a guy or a girl to ask someone out. It doesn’t matter who asks first. If the person isn’t interested, they’ll just say so. I also don’t think a girl should chase a man desperately. Sure, if you like a guy, go after him but don’t be desperate to the point where you’re begging him to be with you. It takes 50/50 effort for a relationship to work. Now-a-days, the idea of relationships are very different from what these women were trying to preach.