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"Only that day dawns to which we are awake. There is more day to dawn. The sun is but a morning-star."

This quote is important because Skinner initially wanted this last quote from Thoreau's Walden to be the title of Walden Two.

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In the final chapter of Walden Two, Burris decides to return to Walden Two permanently. He reflects on his past professional and personal aspirations, recognizing that Walden Two offers him a more fulfilling life. Burris acknowledges his dissatisfaction with university teaching and looks forward to engaging in more meaningful activities in Walden Two, like research and leisurely pursuits. His return is marked by a sense of relief and contentment, culminating in a warm reunion with Steve. The chapter underscores themes of personal fulfillment, rejection of traditional societal structures, and the allure of a utopian community.

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-Castle and Burris discuss the academic history of Frazier, with Castle suggesting that Frazier's anti-academic stance is due to personal failures.

-They join the others for breakfast, where it's revealed that Rodge won't join Walden Two. Frazier, in good spirits, joins the group, displaying no animosity towards Rodge.

-Later, Burris and Frazier discuss Walden Two's future. Frazier passionately outlines his vision for a science of human behavior, emphasizing the potential for controlling and enhancing human capabilities and the power of a community like Walden Two in achieving these goals.

-Themes include the tension between skepticism and idealism, and the potential of behavioral science in shaping society.

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- Castle expresses his skepticism about the community, comparing it to a cleverly disguised hoax and attributing its success to Frazier's personal charisma.

-Meanwhile, Steve and Mary decide to join Walden Two, which leads to varied reactions among the group.

-The chapter also includes a tour of the community's medical center, showcasing its advanced healthcare system.

-Key themes include the tension between skepticism and belief in utopian ideals, the role of charismatic leadership, and the portrayal of an advanced, self-sustaining community.

-The chapter emphasizes the community's approach to healthcare, reflecting its holistic, inclusive and preventative philosophy.

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The chapter emphasizes themes like personal transformation, the appeal of utopian communities, and the powerful influence of such environments on individuals' choices and behaviors. Additionally, it reveals Burris's inner conflict of whether to join Walden Two or not.

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-Themes explored in this chapter include the challenges of predicting success or failure in communal living experiments and the limitations of historical accounts in guiding present-day ventures.

-The chapter underlines the complexity of analyzing past communal experiments and their relevance to Walden Two's approach.

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-The chapter explores themes of personal growth, societal perspective, and the challenge of convincing individuals to embrace alternative lifestyles, even when they may offer more fulfillment and happiness.

-The conversation between the characters sheds light on the conflicts and struggles they face in reconciling their newfound understanding of communal living with their previous beliefs and personal relationships.

-Ultimately, the chapter reflects on the difficulty of shifting societal perspectives and the internal struggles of individuals when confronted with unconventional yet fulfilling lifestyles.

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“I was thinking more of the women,” Castle said, “the wives and mothers. Don’t they feel that they are less necessary to their families?” “Of course they do, and they ought to. You are talking about a tradition of slavery, and of the sentiments which have preserved it for thousands of years."

“Feelings of insecurity!” Frazier continued with increasing warmth. “The marriage system trades on them! What does the ordinary middle-class marriage amount to? Well, it’s agreed that the husband will provide shelter, clothing, food, and perhaps some amusement, while the wife will work as a cook and cleaning woman and bear and raise children. The man is reasonably free to select or change his work; the woman has no choice, except between accepting and neglecting her lot. She has a legal claim for support, he has a claim for a certain type of labor. “To make matters worse, we educate our women as if they were equal, and promise them equality. Is it any wonder they are soon disillusioned?"

"But I suspect you find it hardest to convince women of the advantages of community life,” I said. “Naturally! Those who stand to gain most are always the hardest to convince. That’s true of the exploited worker, too—and for the same reason. They have both been kept in their places, not by external force, but much more subtly by a system of beliefs implanted within their skins. It’s sometimes an almost hopeless task to take the shackles off their souls, but it can be done."

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-Frazier discusses the experimental approaches Walden Two employs regarding family practices, the handling of marital relations and affections, child-rearing methods emphasizing communal care, and the redefined roles of women.

-The chapter discusses the replacement of traditional family structures with communal living and the impact of separate rooms on marital relationships.

-It explores the concept of communal child-rearing, breaking the traditional parent-child relationship in favor of a wider network of caregivers.

-Frazier addresses the changed roles of women in Walden Two, emphasizing the dignity and equality they gain in the community.

-The chapter examines the social and psychological impacts of these structural changes, emphasizing the aim to eliminate feelings of insecurity and redefine personal value beyond traditional family roles.

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This chapter delves into the unconventional practices and justifications for early marriages and childbearing in Walden Two, contrasting them with societal norms and expectations prevalent in the visitors' world.

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-The chapter explores a non-traditional educational model that prioritizes experiential learning, individualized growth, and the absence of conventional academic pressures.

-It delves into the idea of fostering genuine intrinsic motivation in education as opposed to relying on external rewards or punishments.

-The discussion touches upon the concepts of freedom, control, and autonomy within an educational framework where children are guided but not coerced, allowing for self-directed learning.

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-Frazier gives examples of how they teach children self-control, such as resisting the temptation of a sugared lollipop and tolerating increasing levels of discomfort. These lessons are incorporated at a very young age, aiming to equip children with the ability to manage their emotions.

-Castle criticizes these methods as cruel, but Frazier defends them, arguing that they are essential for developing strong, well-adjusted individuals. He contrasts this with traditional societal methods, which he views as inefficient and often harmful.

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-Castle finally gets to speak to Frazier about how he sees Walden Two as a form of dictatorship-at-a-distance. Frazier argues that it is the best form of a planned society

-Castle believes that a complete “science of behavior” would compromise the freedom of humanity, and that true freedom is being free from external controls, rather than just punishment and oppression

-Frazier counters that Walden Two is the freest society in existence because it uses positive reinforcement to control behavior, rather than punishment

-Frazier also argues that democracy is flawed because it fails to recognize the determining influence of the environment on humanity.

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-Castle and Burris discuss Frazier’s avoidance of larger issues like freedom, responsibility, and dignity

-Frazier invites Burris to his messy personal quarters, contrasting with the cohesive planning of the community

-Burris is undecided about joining Walden Two, citing no specific issues but an inability to commit (But when asked by Frazier he gives no response for if it is due to his dislike for Frazier)

-Frazier acknowledges that despite planning the community, he feels unable to truly be part of it due to his personal traits

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Chapter 13 Conversation b/t Castle, Mrs. Nash, and Frazier

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Chapter 13 Conversation b/t Castle, Mrs. Nash, and Frazier

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Mrs. Nash explained that they were being taken on a picnic.

“What about the children who don’t go?” said Castle. “What do you do about the green-eyed monster?”

Mrs. Nash was puzzled.

“Jealousy. Envy,” Castle elaborated. “Don’t the children who stay home ever feel unhappy about it?”

“I don’t understand,” said Mrs. Nash.

“And I hope you won’t try,” said Frazier, with a smile. “I’m afraid we must be moving along.”

-Castle's question about jealousy and envy among children who are not chosen for an activity like a picnic reflects a typical concern based on common societal experiences where children often feel left out or are envious of others' opportunities.

-Mrs. Nash's puzzlement at Castle's question is telling. It suggests that in Walden Two, the concept of jealousy among children, especially in the context Castle describes, is either nonexistent or so rare that it baffles her.

-Frazier's response, advising not to delve deeper into the matter and moving on, further implies that such emotions are not a significant concern in Walden Two. His reaction can be interpreted in two ways: either he genuinely believes that the community has successfully eradicated or significantly minimized these negative emotions through their unique upbringing methods, or he prefers not to discuss potential flaws or challenges in the community's approach to child-rearing (or it could be interpreted as both, as many things are not one thing or another).

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-The topic parents and their importance in child development is raised by Castle. Frazier responds by emphasizing the role of community love, where children receive affection and care from various members of the community, not just their parents.

-The group discusses the implications of such a controlled environment on child development. Frazier explains that the children are gradually exposed to challenges and annoyances as they grow.

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-Chapter 11 focuses on the themes of leisure, the importance of the arts, and the potential for a community like Walden Two to foster a rich cultural life.

-It also highlights Frazier's philosophical perspectives on these matters. Frazier shares his views on the economic philosophy of Walden Two, highlighting its efficiency and modern approach to labor. He argues that this efficiency creates more time for artistic pursuits, contributing to a culturally rich community.

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-“But this is idiotic! There’s no problem here at all! No one can seriously doubt that a well-managed community will get along successfully as an economic unit. A child could prove it. The real problems are psychological. I really shouldn’t talk about these details at all. They’ll mislead you.”

-Frazier's avoidance of discussing the psychological aspects of Walden Two suggests a preference for dealing with more quantifiable and controllable aspects of society, a reluctance to confront the potential flaws and limitations in his utopian vision, and a desire to maintain his authority and the image of a successful community. It highlights a central tension in the novel between utopian idealism and the complex reality of human nature and society.

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-Frazier emphasizes that Walden Two avoids primitive methods in farming and industry, focusing instead on efficiency and avoiding unnecessary labor. He discusses the community's economic model, highlighting its self-sufficiency and efficiency in food production and storage

-The group tours the dairy, which showcases modern farming practices. Frazier then leads them through various workshops and labs, highlighting the community's diverse skills and resources.

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This chapter explores themes of teamwork, adaptation to new environments, the value of physical labor, and the dynamics within the group.

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-Physical labor brings the group together, fostering a sense of camaraderie and accomplishment as they successfully complete the task.

-They work efficiently as a team, with each member taking on specific roles. The task provides insights into the characters' personalities and work styles. The chapter concludes with the characters reflecting on their physical labor, contrasting it with their usual intellectual work, highlighting themes of adaptation, teamwork, and the physical versus intellectual labor dichotomy.

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Overall, Chapter 8 of "Walden Two" continues to explore the novel's central themes of creating a utopian society through practical, behaviorist approaches to economics, labor, governance, and social organization.

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-Frazier explains the community's unique economic system to the group. Walden Two operates on a system of labor-credits, a form of internal currency where goods and services are free, and members pay for their use with labor-credits earned through work.

-Frazier discusses the community's approach to assigning different credit values to different jobs based on demand and desirability. Unpleasant jobs have higher credit values, while more enjoyable jobs have lower values. This system ensures that all types of work are equally desirable over time.

-The group also learns about Walden Two's governance structure, which includes a Board of Planners and various Managers who oversee different community aspects. Members do not vote for these positions, as they require specialized skills and training.

-Frazier emphasizes the importance of every member, including those with intellectual roles, engaging in physical labor to understand and appreciate the challenges of all community members. This practice ensures a fair and empathetic community environment.

-The chapter ends with a discussion on Walden Two's efficient use of manpower and resources, highlighting how the community achieves a high standard of living with lower consumption of goods compared to the average American

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This chapter emphasizes Walden Two's focus on efficiency, communal sharing of resources, and the innovative approaches to everyday life designed to reduce labor and increase convenience.

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-The group visits the community's dining rooms, which are smaller than expected and decorated in various styles to familiarize children with different interiors they might encounter outside the community.

-During dinner, Frazier discusses the design and benefits of their unique glass dining trays, emphasizing labor-saving and efficient practices in Walden Two.

-The group then observes the dishwashing process, which is streamlined and efficient, with only a few people required to handle the community's dishwashing needs. Frazier compares this efficiency to the laborious task of traditional housewifery, showcasing the benefits of communal living and industrialized domestic practices.

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The chapter highlights Walden Two's focus on individual freedom within a community setting, the efficient use of resources, and the psychological benefits of a flexible, diverse routine.

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-Frazier guides the group through the community's main building. They observe various common rooms for reading, music, art, and informal meetings, noticing that despite the evening's beauty, many people are indoors, engaging in various activities.

-Frazier explains that the residents of Walden Two have the freedom to go outdoors at any time, so they don't feel the need to be outside just because it's a nice evening.

-As Frazier leads the group through the community's main building, he engages in a conversation about the utility of crowds. When Frazier questions the usefulness and interest of crowds, Castle suggests that some people enjoy being part of a crowd. Frazier counters this by describing it as a symptom of loneliness. Frazier argues that for those not starved for friendship or affection, crowds are not inherently enjoyable.

-Frazier points out that in Walden Two, they avoid crowds by having staggered schedules for meals and activities, which also makes more efficient use of facilities. This arrangement also avoids the institutional feeling that comes from everyone doing the same thing at the same time.

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The chapter highlights the emphasis Walden Two places on community, simplicity, and the psychological aspects of everyday life choices.

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The group continues their tour with Frazier, discussing the community's approach to personal appearance and fashion. Frazier explains that Walden Two aims for a balance between avoiding the waste of constantly changing fashion trends and not being completely out of fashion. This leads to a discussion about the community's clothing choices, emphasizing practicality, variety, and slower style changes. The conversation also touches on the importance of dressing up in Walden Two, linking it to psychological benefits and social norms, rather than to conspicuous consumption.

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The chapter emphasizes Walden Two's innovative approach to problem-solving and its community's willingness to challenge and change traditional practices. The redesign of the tea service, for instance, symbolizes Walden Two's practical application of scientific methods to improve daily life, highlighting the community's focus on both functionality and aesthetics.

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Throughout the chapter, Frazier's passion for the community and its principles is evident, as he enthusiastically shares details about the community's operation and philosophy. The chapter emphasizes Walden Two's practical approach to creating a utopian society, blending innovative solutions with a deep understanding of human behavior and societal needs.

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Search for Utopia

-The chapter sets the stage for the exploration of an ideal society, a utopian community. The protagonists are in search of a new way of life, different from the disillusionment they feel with post-war American society. This theme reflects the universal human quest for a perfect society.

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Influence of Education

-The role of education and intellectual discourse in shaping ideas and aspirations is evident. The discussion in Burris’s class about utopias has a lasting impact on Rogers, demonstrating the power of education to inspire and provoke thought.

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Connection Between Theory and Practice

-T.E. Frazier and his real-life implementation of utopian ideas bridges the gap between theoretical discussions and practical application. It introduces the concept that ideas discussed in an academic setting can manifest in real-world experiments.

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Disillusionment with the Status Quo

-There is a clear sense of dissatisfaction with conventional American life, as expressed by Rogers and Jamnik. This sets the tone for the exploration of alternative lifestyles and societal structures.

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Chapter 13 Conversation b/t Castle,  Mrs. Nash, and Frazier

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Chapter 13 Conversation b/t Castle,  Mrs. Nash, and Frazier

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Mrs. Nash explained that they were being taken on a picnic.

“What about the children who don’t go?” said Castle. “What do you do about the green-eyed monster?”

Mrs. Nash was puzzled.

“Jealousy. Envy,” Castle elaborated. “Don’t the children who stay home ever feel unhappy about it?”

“I don’t understand,” said Mrs. Nash.

“And I hope you won’t try,” said Frazier, with a smile. “I’m afraid we must be moving along.”

-Castle's question about jealousy and envy among children who are not chosen for an activity like a picnic reflects a typical concern based on common societal experiences where children often feel left out or are envious of others' opportunities.

-Mrs. Nash's puzzlement at Castle's question is telling. It suggests that in Walden Two, the concept of jealousy among children, especially in the context Castle describes, is either nonexistent or so rare that it baffles her.

-Frazier's response, advising not to delve deeper into the matter and moving on, further implies that such emotions are not a significant concern in Walden Two. His reaction can be interpreted in two ways: either he genuinely believes that the community has successfully eradicated or significantly minimized these negative emotions through their unique upbringing methods, or he prefers not to discuss potential flaws or challenges in the community's approach to child-rearing (or it could be interpreted as both, as many things are not one thing or another).

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Frazier responds to Burris's letter, inviting him, Rogers, Jamnik, and others to visit the utopian community. Excited, Burris shares the news with Rogers and they plan a trip. Burris then encounters Augustine Castle, a philosopher interested in utopias, and he also plans to come along. Burris, Rogers, Jamnik, their girlfriends Barbara and Mary, and Castle read Frazier's article, and they all decide to visit Walden Two. They travel by train and bus, and Frazier picks them up, driving them to Walden Two.

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In the opening chapter of "Walden Two," Professor Burris receives an unexpected visit from Rogers and Steve Jamnik, two men who have recently returned from WWII service. Rogers recalls a discussion about a utopian society from Burris's class, expressing a desire to find a new way of living. Burris recalls his graduate school classmate, T.E. Frazier. Burris finds out Frazier lives in a place called "Walden Two." He decides to write to Frazier and promises to update Rogers and Jamnik with any news.

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Barbara is Rodge's partner and shares his initial doubts about Walden Two. Her character deals with the conflict between the attraction of a new way of life and the pull of the familiar life she knows outside the community. She does not seem to embrace or fully comprehend Walden Two. Her character reflects the skepticism and resistance some individuals have toward the community's principles.

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Mary is Steve's girlfriend and admires Walden Two. Her character signifies the attraction of individuals to the communal and nurturing aspects of the community, as well as its appeal to those seeking a different way of life.

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Steve, another visitor to Walden Two, is Rodge's friend and a man who has just come out of the military service. He's portrayed as practical and is seriously considering staying in Walden Two as he sees its benefits firsthand.

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Rodge is a friend of Burris and a former soldier. He comes to Walden Two with Burris to see if the community offers a viable alternative to the problems he perceives in mainstream society.

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Castle, a philosopher and a colleague of Burris, brings a critical perspective to Walden Two. He is an intelligent and argumentative character who challenges the community's principles, attempting to reveal flaws or impracticalities in its design.

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Politics-Frazier dislikes traditional politics. Democracy breeds corruption and inefficiency; politicians prioritize self-interest over society's well-being.He advocates for a technocracy where experts make decisions to benefit the community.

Public Relations- Frazier sees public relations as crucial for community communication, but critiques its use to manipulate people in capitalism. In Walden Two, it's used transparently and efficiently to foster trust through honest communication.

Religious Practices - razier rejects religion, deeming it unnecessary in Walden Two's society. He sees it as promoting irrational thinking caused by fear and ignorance instead of scientific knowledgewhich should guide the ethical principles that shape individuals' conduct.

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He serves as the narrator and one of the main characters of the novel. Burris is a psychology professor, presumably based on Skinner himself to some extent (Burris/Burrhus). He's the contemplative academic who starts off skeptical about Walden Two's prospects. He is curious and serves as the reader's surrogate, asking probing questions that help to uncover the intricacies of the community's functioning. He gradually becomes more open to its ideas.

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Frazier is the architect of Walden Two and its guiding force. He is an outspoken advocate for the application of behavioral engineering principles to create a better society. Frazier's character is the mouthpiece for Skinner's own views on behaviorism and the potential for a scientifically managed utopia.

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Capitalism

-A conversation ensued about how Capitalism has had some dramatic successes, but at a cost. Which is why Walden Two does not have this type of economy

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Religion

In Walden Two they believe that through Religion, there is advertising and government which is merely another way of controlling human behavior

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-Burris tours Walden Two on his own to see the members' perspective of their society

-Burris is invited to sit and talk with some women. They began to quiz him about the faults of the university system and he hurriedly escapes

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-Burris raises the question of if the younger members are drawn to modern life and Frazier replies that they see the consequences and so do not

-Burris asks about indoctrination to maintain the community Frazier replies that indoctrination ruin a community

- Steve and Mary wave to Castle, Burris, and Frazier which shows that they have been accepted into the society of Walden Two

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-Frazier claims that what distinguishes Walden Two from all previous utopias is that it is modern

-Castle refutes this "Modern utopia" stating that it avoids all political and economic solutions to the problems of society

-We learn that members vote in local elections

-Castle criticizes Frazier for avoiding the problems of the outside world and Frazier explains that Walden Two is the perfect environment to test a "perfect society"

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-Enter a clean, spacious waiting room with no receptionists or appointment queues in Walden Two's medical system

-The group watches doctors and nurses perform medical procedures, such as check-ups, operations (minor and complex)

-Free healthcare is open to everyone in the community, disregarding social status or job. This approach aims for well-being of all individuals.

-Walden Two's medical facility is warm, welcoming and personalized. It promotes patient-provider trust with a comfortable atmosphere unlike traditional hospitals' sterile environments which can intimidate

-Walden Two's medical tour prioritizes holistic healthcare for prevention over symptom treatment.

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-"The Ghosts in the Machine" suggests humans are unpredictable despite living in a controlled society

-Frazier believes the "ghosts" signify old behavior, feelings, and wants that remain despite their irrelevance.

-Frazier claims ghosts cause problems. To solve this, use behavioral conditioning from Walden Two for happiness and harmony.

-Some characters doubt removing ghosts from human nature, see value in preserving individualism even at cost of efficiency.

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-Frazier claims that true happiness comes from being free of constant survival struggles and pursuing meaningful activities. He believes Walden Two provides security, purpose and promotes overall well-being
-Castle doubts Frazier's claims but acknowledges positive aspects of Walden Two. They agree to discus their opposing views on freedom and happiness during their stay there.

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-Frazier spoke about how work that is not meaningful or is too taxing would not be preformed and leave more time for skills and curiosity (hopes of a golden age)
-The group learned that corn is milked for nutrients, and that they share harvests with local farmers for more food
-Frazier refuses to speak on possible mental health issues of the community

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-Skinner finds that Barbara and Rog are not doing well in their relationship from Mary
-A lack of spontaneity was seen as Barbara came to meet the group (but why?)
-Window washing was performed by the group

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Child rearing is often a hot topic.  I encourage you to consider that we all have others help us in child rearing.  Who helps us? 

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Child rearing is often a hot topic.  I encourage you to consider that we all have others help us in child rearing.  Who helps us? 

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-The group takes a walk around Walden Two; Fraizer speaks about the elimination of crowds and their false sense of community

-Frazier speaks about the staggered work and eating schedules

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-Skinner notes how beautiful the women of Walden Two are; Frazier states no one is selected on terms of attractiveness and equates it to their confidence and lack of vanity

-Frazier and Castle speak about the men being less posh than the women (to which Frazier shockingly agrees)

-The group learns that children the age of 7 and up join the adults for dinner (usually in their own separate eating hall)

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- Everyone was put to work cleaning windows
- Rodge and Steve - removed the windows
-Castle  and Skinner- cleaned the removed windows with sponges and chamois
-Barbara and Mary- polished the windows
-Rodge, Steve, Castle, And Skinner- replaced the drying cartridges
-The group worked very efficiently

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-Skinner and Mary bonded over breakfast and coffee
- Woman there do not get waited on
-skinner wanted to ask Mary personal questions on a deeper level but did not.

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-In walden two, unlike in regular society where we rush around to get dressed and showered, the residents do not rush around. There is plenty of time to take breaks.

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- wore dress clothes- but not party dresses
- Frazier stated " Full dress is a form of conspicuous consumption which doesn't amuse us- except we see it in others.
- Men do not wear ties
- (Walden two is starting to sound like a cult to me)- personal opinion.

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-Mrs Meyerson and Frazier had two different views on how the people dressen in walden two.
-Frazier stated " " we solved the problem by- experimenting would you say?" she turned to Frazier. " No," he said flatly".

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-Discusses the advantages of Walden's Tea Service
- castle very displeased with tea service operation
- Frazier was very agressive

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-Walden gloated about why his "utopia" was supreme in it functionality.

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-buildings
- ponds
-wooded hills
- farm houses

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Skinners impersonal acquaintanceship
"disagreed violently and exhaustively" about the nature and limitations of human knowledge

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-Camaraderie between old friends
-the making of Walden Two

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-The group met up to speak about Walden Two and how it was created/built

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-Jamnik & Girl, Rogers & girl, Skinner, and Castle decide and begin to go to Walden Two
-Met w/ Frazier
-Assigned rooms and napped

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-Adventure
-Curiosity of new environment

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-Dark Hair
-mid-thirties
-beautiful

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-Extrospective (especially of others')
-College professor
-Finds challenges amusing

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-tall
-blonde
-Roger's fiancee

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-Short
-Jamniks "girl"

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-Rogers and Jamnik met w Skinner
-spoke of Utopias
-Frazier and "Walden Two"
-Question of "Behavior and Environment w and w/o government"

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-Self-assured
-Opposing views
-Challenging
-President of University (?)

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-"Utopia"
-began compound
-likes to "poke the bear"

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-Want of a new start
-experiential experiments of learning

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-Military
-Short, broad
-Nervous around educated men

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-Military
-College Educated (Law)

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-Frazier, believes informed scientific choices bring true freedom over societal  norms and individual desires. He claims that their system allows individuals to be free from mundane decisions about life
-Castle,  questions if personal autonomy is possible in the structured community and suggests that allowing individuals to make their own choices leads to true freedom.
-Frazier rebuts Castle by saying that personal freedom causes chaos and irrational decisions. He saysWalden Two promotes scientific principles to keep social harmony, but some may see it as a limitation on freedom when really it helps individuals live fulfilling lives without stress or conflict.

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-Burris is worried about Walden Two's lack of religion and philosophy, fearing it could cause moral decay
-Frazier defends Walden Two's ethics, which relies on behavioral engineering to foster happiness for individuals and society without external moral guidelines.
-Frazier notes Walden Two promotes cooperation through positive reinforcement with rewards and praise for good behavior, avoiding punishment due to potential negative outcomes.

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-Castle questions Frazier's argument; individual freedom could be jeopardized. People may feel pressured  to conform to societal norms set by behavioral engineers.
-Frazier values autonomy but regulates for the common good. Walden Two balances freedom and society's welfare.
-Frazier says leisure boosts mental health and reduces conflicts.

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-Burris worries about Walden Two's effect on creativity and innovation.
-Frazier says creativity is supported if it aligns with goals and aims to improve the community.

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To join the community you must

1- go through interview (Interviews assess applicant's motives, expectations and compatibility with community values.)

2-Go through a selection process .(Walden Two community is picky with members. Selectivity assures positive contribution and avoids disruption.)

3- Accepted Walden Two newcomers undergo a trial period before full membership.(They work, learn and have fun with fellow residents.)

4- Continue education while in Walden 2

5-must make personal adjustments

Members get benefits for joining the community