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What is the use of a policy if it is not regularly enforced or works for that matter.  Things have become very relaxed and it shows in students lack of adherence to rules.  Removing drinks and food is not a means to an end.  If you want them to care there needs to be harsher consequences and we need to stick with it whatever the policy is.   I agree to the 3 tardies is an absence.  I also like some of the policies from the sweep post.  The disruptions are very minor.  I would rather have them in class getting at least some instruction, but will not back track until the last 10 minutes of class if I am not helping other students with the task at hand or will have them ask my "tutors" that are finished to help them catch up if time permits. 

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What is the use of a policy if it is not regularly enforced or works for that matter.  Things have become very relaxed and it shows in students lack of adherence to rules.  Removing drinks and food is not a means to an end.  If you want them to care there needs to be harsher consequences and we need to stick with it whatever the policy is.   I agree to the 3 tardies is an absence.  I also like some of the policies from the sweep post.  The disruptions are very minor.  I would rather have them in class getting at least some instruction, but will not back track until the last 10 minutes of class if I am not helping other students with the task at hand or will have them ask my "tutors" that are finished to help them catch up if time permits. 

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I believe students need to be in classes.  

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I believe students need to be in classes.  

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I think students need to be in the classroom.

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I vote for 3 tardies to turn into into absences, and to keep them in class. Also, it's logical: if you add 3 x 3-5 minutes missed, it adds up to roughly 10 minutes out, which is already an absence. Throw out the drinks - they are the reason most of them are late!

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Sweep tardy student's to ISD room. If student already has 5 tardies in 1st hour, issue another Saturday School. If they do not attend 2nd Saturday School, do not stop give them lunch detention as an option~Issue OSS.

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I have students who are tardy daily; one monthly SatSchool doesn't seem to faze them. Not even sure if they served last month. They need consequences, but missing class is not an appropriate consequence for missing class.

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Take the drinks and the food. I do this already. Eat breakfast before you get to school, you know, like everyone else does. As far as parents, they are part of the problem, as they are allowing this bad behavior. I don't think it will be an issue because, at the end of the day, they are the same parents complaining that little Jonny is failing. At least this way, we eliminate an excuse for them to fail further. I also like the 3 tardies = 1 absence. We had this back when I was in school and it made the consequences more real for students. It also puts the idea into parents heads that we mean business. Right now, it's a joke to both the student and the parent/enabler

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I agree with making them throw away their drinks if they are tardy. I already do this in my class. However, my tardy students are often my struggling students. I hesitate to give them more of a reason to be behind in my class.

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We used to have Saturday School as a consequence once a week, now it's once a month. A student can be tardy 20 times by then. Now I have to contact the parent after 3 tardies and I don't have room on my plate for more so I've been allowing students to come tardy with no consequence as I'm sure many other teachers have, which is why the tardies are out of control. We need to reel it back in. I was told there was going to be some kind of form letter I could email to parents but I never got it. Students know nothing is being done and they are taking advantage of it.

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I also came from a district which had a three tardies = one absence policy. The tardies in my first hour are from the same students, but only one brings food/drinks to class. I do not allow them to have anything at their desk. I think you will be inviting a battle with parents if you throw food/drinks away. There are obviously some issues with the tardy policy not being enforced - the busses are also an issue.

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I also came from a district which had a three tardies = one absence policy. The tardies in my first hour are from the same students, but only one brings food/drinks to class. I do not allow them to have anything at their desk. I think you will be inviting a battle with parents if you throw food/drinks away. There are obviously some issues with the tardy policy not being enforced - the busses are also an issue.

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This does not effect us because we are a self-contained classroom.

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I think it depends on the student.  Some students come in as quietly as possible as to not be noticed whereas other students come in loudly and ask out loud "What did I miss ?"

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Students should come to class regardless of what time is left. At the very least we can make contact with them and let them know what they missed and what is expected. This way they can have the opportunity to get a head start on making it any missed assignments up.

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Let them be marked tardy but still has to go to the 1st hour class so that at least they could still do the class activities even if they were late.

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Let them be marked tardy but still has to go to the 1st hour class so that at least they could still do the class activities even if they were late.

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We need to do something different than what we have been doing and so I say to sweep them all after the tardy bell rings. This problem is getting worse - not better and so we need to do something significant to get back on track.

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I agree with taking the drinks from them. If we tell them they have to wait in the office if they are more than 10 minutes late, there are a few issues:
1) They may just ditch 1st period altogether and take longer to get here.
2) They will miss instruction and homework, so any class time missed is detrimental to their grade.
3) Keeping them in the office will require someone to watch them instead of monitoring the campus.

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Late or not the student needs to come to class. Part of the lesson is better than no lesson at all. I agree with taking the drinks away from them.

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Can the tardy kids go to ISD for the remainder of the hour, then serve lunch detention that day?

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student need to be in classrooms, no matter what.

As for drinks. I would never take food from any kid.

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Unfortunately, almost every tardy causes some disruption, but things are difficult enough in Algebra when the student IS present without missing the lesson. Since most 9th graders have not sought the path of catch-up on their own, it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.

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This is what Tempe Union HSD does:
Sweep Rules and Procedures

Teachers, security guards, and administrators will sweep students out in the hallways during the first ten minutes of class.

Students will be sent to Sweep for the following reasons:

They violate the tardy policy or are in the halls when the bell ringsThey are late to school first hour, without a doctor’s note or accompanied by a parent

Students swept for the third time (cumulative in all classes) and each time thereafter, will be subject to disciplinary action.

Students swept for the third time in the same class, and each time thereafter, will count as an unexcused absence and student will be subject to additional disciplinary action.

Sweep DOES NOT postpone any assignment deadline. Unless the assignment is turned in on the same day as the Sweep, it will be considered LATE.

Sweep students who miss an assignment or test must contact the teacher and/or follow established absence procedures by the next time the class meets and complete all make-up work.

Sweep vs. Ditching

Attendance Office personnel will post a “W” during the hour the student was swept.

If a student has been swept, s/he has until the next class meeting to obtain missed assignments. If s/he does not do so, a zero will be received on that assignment.

If a student is ditching, s/he will receive an unexcused absence (“U”) and has no opportunity to make up the missed test or work. Teachers can also write a referral for ditching.

Students will be disciplined as a result of excessive (3 and each one thereafter) tardies (sweeps) upon referral from a teacher or the Sweep Room attendant. Consequences will include, but are not limited to, after school detention, in-school suspension, parent conference and short-term or long-term suspension.

Sweep Consequences:

3rd Sweep: Verbal Warning
4th Sweep: 5 days lunch detention
5th Sweep: One day of ISS
6th Sweep: One day of Off-Campus Suspension and attendance at 3-6 School
7th Sweep: Three days of Off-Campus Suspension and attendance at 3-6 School