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Holden's self hatred and sibling complex -Nora Hill

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Holden's self hatred and sibling complex -Nora Hill

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Holden is self hatred he talks about how he the only dumb one in his family and how someone else is skinny like him but a nice skinny. He doesn't really talk about himself but has a lot of nice thing to say about his siblings, epically their smarts and skills. I feel like Holden's self hatred is partly responsible because of his sibling complex.

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why does he mention phoebe being too affectionate and then immediately move on without elaborating?

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I think that it was very clear that, that was Holden's first love and he wanted to care for her and everything, hanging with her and everything. Then he also trusted her very easily its like he knew... it was good relationship/friendship

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shes a pretty good support system for Holden.

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Holden acknowledges his little sister by talking highly of her.

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Holden describes her as a pretty smart kid. They seem to have a good bond together. He forms a good picture of her as a whole, meaning the way she looks physically and the way she acts.

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phoebe is very smart and talented

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pretty sure holden got a good support person

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Holden could possibly be really good at school but he just doesn't apply himself because he brings out that everyone in his family smart but he was dumb. i think its just him who thinks that

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Why does Holden refer to her as “old phoebe” ?

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he finds comfort in jane more than his own family.

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As of now..

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I think being away from his siblings has affected him a lot.

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She was very close to Holden being the only person not in his family he showed Allies baseball glove, she was caring and supportive of him.

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Holden really care about Jane it looked like.By calling smart and pretty an all that stuff.

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when holden said “jane was different.” i wonder if he used past tense because of the whole stradlater thing.

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jane really cares about Holden.

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Holden always tends to talk about his siblings for long periods of time, and shows great admiration for all of them. Previously when he talked about not having a good relationship with family, I think he strictly meant his parents. I also felt that Holden feels like he doesn't belong in his family or that he doesn't fit in. I came to this conclusion when he began to denounce himself in comparison to his siblings.

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Holden feels as if he’s a useless and dumb due to everyone being into something g besides him

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they have tight bond from brother and sister stand point

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phoebe is basically the only sibling he likes since allie isnt there anymore.

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tbh it seems like holden cares about jane

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she really cares about Holden and they're good friends.

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holden finally talking his about sister

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Holden wants to get in contact with phoebe but can’t due to the relationship he has with his parents

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tbh holden has some hatred inside him

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Phoebe was ahead of her time in my opinion which she  seemed 15 instead of 10